GoodbyeBread

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  1. I haven't been on because of online classes and i missed RAW. Gleaning fro the responses, i take it people are not pleased? only watched bits and pieces of SD. It's alright match wise. Creative is a bit sluggish. (Although Nakamura and Balor feud should be interesting)
  2. The way I interpret the quote is a warning for businesses that don't strive for long term success. (since I brought up the quote, I'll briefly mention some context) Around its time, WCW has probably one of the biggest and boneheaded decisions ever made in the pro wrestling business, yet these were made at the time where WCW was making so much of a killing, WWF (and Vince) were getting their butt kicked with a steel toe boot. WCW, even with the ire of the fans, could afford to make mistakes and with the help of NWO, they could milk as much money as they wanted. In this case, "When the business is hot , you can do no wrong" means that mistakes were doable for the company because of they were successful and still able rake in huge amount cash from their fans. At the time, nothing could hurt them. However, this would be would not be for so long. With financial success, they had no means to change and why would they? If it's not broken, don't fix it right? This is where the business for the WCW would turn cold. Because of long term fan resentment (as well as other factors), WCW suffered lost ticket sales and low television viewership rations. WWF would soon rise again and the writing would be on the wall for WCW. There wasn't nothing they could do to turn it around. In this case, "When the business is cold, you can do no right" means that because were unable to address the long term problem, they couldn't get their fans to stay with them and inevitably, they were finished. I brought the quote up in regards to AEW. While I believe its good to have competition, it still worries me to see a company throw down with an iconic pro wrestling business such as WWE. Lest we forget, TNA grew way to quickly and lost its momentum as soon as it started to directly competed with them. You are correct that "WWE is the business", but i would argue that it isn't the business it once was. There have been some good improvements over years (NXT, acquiring more indie talent to WWE, Women matches getting better quality matches, to the point where they are in the main event of some shows), But their have been many MANY bad decisions over the years (Ruining the Nexus, Bringing back older talent to bury new talent, Backstage politics, NXT used briefly and then made into cannon fodder, "Baylay, This is your life" Segment, Vince's decisions and favoritism, etc). That is just to name a few and no doubt, we could make a list of WWE's short comings and it would take up the entire page of this thread. Do I want WWE to fail? Well...no and I don't want AEW to fail either. As the saying goes, those who do not learn from their history are doomed to repeat it. Since its recent conception, AEW is ready to charge into battle. Whether this is sheer confidence or bitterness, the company has gained a lot of support from the fans. I'm hoping it does well, but i am concerned how they will go from here. TL:DR - Business can be hot/cold in terms of financial gain. If Vince is still getting a ton of money with bad decision, then it would be considered hot. However, the other companies are getting hot as well, with AEW being the as hot as the Lut Desert. The way i see it, It is Vince's short-sightedness and out of touch demeanor that keeps it that way. The muscle bound hero that always wins, like Hulk Hogan, John Cena and Roman reigns (when he was heavily booed) has been done and fans are tired of it. Yet, Vince still presses the idea regardless as it is his guy. Thus, wrestlers are stuck under a ceiling made of plexiglass. Keep in mind, when i say that the business is cold for WWE, this is the result of many many poor decisions and the refusal to change or adapt for the long term. [As a side note: If anyone is interested in The Death of WCW Book, I recommend it. there is so much detail in the book I haven't really touched upon. Give it a read, you wont be disappointed.]
  3. To quote a page from the book The Death of WCW: "When the business is hot, You can do no wrong. When the business is cold, you can do no right." I mentioned this before in previous posts and i believe this applies in today's situation.
  4. I am very baffled by this... Report Claims Saudi Government Told WWE To Remove Sami Zayn From Super ShowDown Due To His Ethnicity
  5. I need a schedule when they are on. Gonna have to binge watch a lot of wrestling
  6. I understand. As a side note, AEW is almost set with a TV deal. Here is where the competition begins (AEW Deal at 10:15)
  7. Same, I've been a fan of the stuff they did. Have you watched the new version of Whose line? While its not like the old whose line, it has a lot of great moments
  8. Hey I loved that show Wish i could say the same for last night
  9. SD was weird, but I'm happy that Balor and Kairi Sane are on it now. I have a good vibes for them. Also, Buddy Murphy is on SD. Might have more matches with Ali. KO being a part of the new day might be interesting. Lets go Big O.....Wait. So AJ styles and Roman Reigns swapped brands. Not bad, but very perplexing. AJ is has always been a SD brand while Roman is always on RAW Brand. Truth be told, I thought Styles and Roman would feud, but i guess not. Whether this is good or bad, i'll leave it up to you.
  10. I'm going to have nightmares, after seeing this lady at Wrestlemainia get to see John cena in the front row. (still, it was nice to see him use the gimmick) Aside from that, I'll say that Wrestlemania is mostly moments. Miz/Shane, Daniel/ Kofi, HHH/Batista and AJ Styles/Randy Ortan were my favorite matches. The other Matches ranges from meh to complete confusion.
  11. So Bret Hart got attack at the HoF http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/bret-hart-attacked-at-wwe-hall-of-fame/#.XKlRiVVKiUk
  12. Glad to be back My goodness, how did it play out? was it a long match or a squash match? I'm just sad for Asuka Ended the year of 2018 as the SD champion and then taken away. I'm not sure why they would do that to her. So two champions are in the main event.and only Ronda is defending her title. Very bone headed decision (To be honest, I'm starting to think the triple threat in mania is an insurance clause in case one individual gets injured. Still, it hurts Asuka in the process). In my opinion, Oliver does well to bring up topics and awareness to the public, even though he isn't a journalist. But your are right. It would take a lot of coaxing to vince to even make that happen. Realistically, the only way the company will change is if Vince steps down and Hunter takes over, making amendments to their policies to guarantee health care . Or if AEW boasts about having a good health care for their employees, to which it would force them to do the same. Sorry about that. XP Well, If I may ask, what are your general thoughts on the subject? (I'm won't judge, just interested in other perspectives and want to know the why). I'll give mine just to start My thoughts: It is important to treat your workers right. Coming from a family that has a very strict,but good work ethic where you earn what you put in, it's crucial to treat your workers well. Even the AAA video game industry has a problem with treating it workers well (Activision and EA laying off workers after boasting about their success, Konami (JPN) making their workplace like a prison and going out of their way to ruin their ex employee's lives, etc). At some point, something must change. Workplaces like WWE and the ones i mention can only think short term for so long that it can end up hurting in the long run.
  13. hello everyone A lot has happened since then and I have been living under a rock in terms of wrestling. Any big changes? Also, I noticed a John Oliver's video on WWE. Wonder what your thoughts are:
  14. Just A Quick Side Note - Gonna take a huge break this month. I have mid-terms and paperwork getting ridiculous. I'll be back in April.
  15. I agree wholeheartedly. It feels like Zack Ryder all over again. "He/She is over, When I say they're over." As much I like Kevin Owens, this was a bad move on their part. if they wanted to make Kevin owens babyface, they should've had him intervene where Danial Bryan and Eric Rowan end up ganging up on Kofi.But @Jesaya815 said, if your hand picked by vince, you will get ire from the fans. I would like to remain optimistic. I'm hoping Vince's decisions in the storyline are a building block for HHH/Shane/Stephanie putting Becky and Kofi in WrestleMania, just to spite him.