Sir_Bee
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Persona 5 has accomplished something rare. I don't want to put the game down, not because I am drawn in by the gameplay loop (it is fun and interesting, but without a guide it all feels overwhelming and there is too much to miss), but I am drawn in by the story. I want to know what is going to happen next. I honestly cannot remember the last time a video game has done that for me.
FYI, to everyone who suggested using a guide to play, thank you. I am happy to explore the palaces on my own, but the sim part of the game is so in-depth. Without prior knowledge of the game, it would be impossible to know the best route to take.
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To anyone who has played the Persona games, Persona 5 in particular, how difficult is the platinum to get without a guide? I know very little about Persona games, and this game is in my library (from PS + Collection) and I was considering starting it at some point. I would rather play without a guide, but if that means I am likely to miss most things and require a near full NG+ playthrough of this 80 ish hour game, I would rather not have to do that. I know that some NG+ is required, but there is a difference between being able to rush through the game to a trophy or two, and having to re-do everything because I missed multiple things the first time.
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As I say to anyone who plays Persona 5: USE A GUIDE.
Not only are the trophies a pain in the ass (even WITH a guide, I screwed them up for the original), but there is little benefit to playing blind in the game. Making anything other than the optimal choices in dialogue do nothing to the ultimate outcome of the game. All it does is slow you down, and lock you out of content.
As much as I enjoy Persona games, it annoys me that they can't come up with a better social system. Apparently in Japan, the best friends are the ones who say exactly what you want them to say all the time.
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@Sir_Bee It's the latter option, time passes by entering a dungeon or going to sleep, sometimes it's mandated by the story so you can't do anything about it but it's not a real time progression. Also game does not provide you information about characters before hand, but during that day you can see which ones are available, but there are also some exceptions like this one is on Tuesday unless it's raining and such. Also some story objectives tied to clearing a dungeon have a time limit until you can do them. I.e. my first run through the game took me about 80-90 hours and then another chonk for NG+ which took quite a lot of time as well since you have to go almost through the whole game for some trophies.
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I managed to get gold on the S-10 test over the weekend, after many attempts, but a gold is still a gold. That means that the GT7 platinum is more or less just an eventuality at this point. Only big things holding me back are the distance trophy (which should come with the sport races most likely, or a rubber band if needed), 50 sport races, and the big one of the 3 legendary cars. Nothing difficult, just need to put in the time, or be in the right place at the right time.
As for Slay the Spire, I did one run over the weekend, and beat Ascension 2 with the first character. Still really enjoying the game
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So I am pretty certain that the most recent physics patch for GT7 just made the game easier. I had put about an hour and a half into trying to gold the S-1 license test prior to last night with no luck. When I started playing last night, I managed gold on S-1 through S-9, some taking less than 20 minutes. All I have left for licenses now is to get gold on S-10 ... I tried for just over an hour last night, but never even finished a lap, let alone got a gold time. This one may take a while, but hey, I am getting closer
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I started Slay the Spire over the weekend. I have to say, it has been remarkably good so far. I have gotten in maybe a dozen runs in with the first character, and gotten 2 wins (ascension 0 and 1) out of it. I honestly expected it to be a little more difficult, but I am still early on.
The artwork is very well done, and the music is simply awesome. Both are way better than they needed to be, and it really lifts the game higher.
As I was playing, I could not help but be reminded of Binding of Isaac (probably helped that Mrs Bee was playing that beside me). BoI always felt to me that it required certain items for your slightly above average player to even stand a chance of beating anything past the heart, and no hope if you went alt path. That is alright on paper, but with the immense number of items involved, many of them being downright harmful, the odds of getting a good run off are slim. On the other hand, StS feels to me (at least so far) that it is more forgiving. There seem to be more viable builds you could get, and there aren't as many options available, at least yet, so failure is less about "bad luck" and more about poor choices. Yes, there are still luck elements for sure, but they have been put together in such a way that the feel less catastrophically bad when they go awry, and it feels like the game is giving you a chance to figure a way out of many situations.
Overall, I have been very happy with the game, and would recommend it to anyone who is not immediately turned off by the fact it is a card game. Even to those sitting on the fence, I would say it is worth a try.
As for other things in my gaming world. I managed to reach the "end" of GT7, and got all gold up to and included the IA license, so was happy with that. Have not managed gold on S-1 yet, but it will come in time. I feel that a wheel would make my life easier, but at the same time I know it is doable with a controller, and my 'need' for a wheel just feels like a cop-out.
I also have Elden Ring still sitting on shelf untouched. I have been considering starting a trophy YouTube channel to document my trophy hunting adventures to anyone who may be interested, and Elden Ring seemed like a decent place to start, but I keep talking myself out of it, or making excuses to put it off. I will probably get around to it eventually, but we will have to see. I have technically recorded all the footage of me playing GT7 as well, so have to option of editing that into videos as well. The thought of building and hosting a website to give me a place to talk more about the games I play has crossed my mind, but again, I keep talking myself out of it. I am not particularly good at video games, don't think I am all that funny or entertaining, and can't for the life of me think of a reason why anyone would want to watch. If I ever manage to get over my self doubt, maybe I will end up streaming Elden Ring one day.
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I don't actually like the first character. He's kind of the "barbarian" class of the game, and I've always been closer to rogues or magic users.
I still find The Defect to be the most fun to play. The Watcher would be great if she had fewer mechanics. You get one of them going, you'll blow through the game, but I find she's a bit too RNG because of it.
It's a great game, though.
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The game is phenomenal - it's no accident that there are thousands of people enjoying high-level StS content on Twitch every day. As for its difficulty, I'd say that for trophies the game is not difficult at all, although a bit time-consuming and a few trophies are quite RNG (but nothing too difficult) - especially if one decides to save-scum or quit to menu to negate a bad decision. The real difficulty, but it has nothing to do with trophies, is if one decides to play Ascension 20 "as is", i.e. without abusing any of the game's mechanics, and always aiming for the heart kill. The success rate over a pre-determined number of runs will show the actual difficulty of the game. Best StS players have a success rate in the range of 70-90% in 100 run samples (depending on the character, the highest win percentage has been achieved for the Watcher, the lowest for the Defect). I am so glad that you're enjoing StS - I've been advocating for this game on its message boards ever since I discovered it in 2020, thanks to PS+ more people can see its greatness
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ACG is a solid review, who often talks about the tech side of the game as well. Could be worth a watch.
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If you count anything that is a skeleton as one type, then none of the borderlands games had all that big a variety of enemies? Mrs Bee and I have only been playing for a few hours and we have seen a reasonable selection. Your variety of skeletons, goblins, imps, wyverns, land sharks, zombies, a bucket head that I am not sure exactly what it was, and your typical human classes. That's just off the top of my head. I do agree that the very beginning is skeleton focused, but the big bad is also a skeleton commanding and undead army, so it is to be expected. Edit: We can add spiders, mushrooms, and "murfs" to the list too. This game has no shortage of enemy types.
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My parents gave me access to their old Airmiles rewards account and the points they had accumulated. There were enough points there to order a really nice cooks knife for our kitchen, a nice sharpener to make it last near perpetually, and a copy of Elden Ring. My free copy of Elden Ring should arrive sometime today.
That being said, it is unlikely I will be starting it any time soon as I am still working on HFW, and with Tiny Tina's coming out tomorrow, Mrs. Bee will not likely want to do much else for a while. But still, I ended up with a free copy, can't really complain about that
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Sometimes I do get a little anxious about starting a new game, worried about the time investment and if it will be worth it, but the bigger problem for me is buying them. I feel so let down if I spend money on a game that turned out to not be very good. And because that has happened a few times, and seems to be happening more recently, I have a very difficult time deciding to spend money on a game these days.
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I cannot say with 100% certainty, but since you can only donate one of each item, it should not matter who donates it, you should both get the trophy if the museum is completed. Mrs Bee and I never went far enough to test it though.
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Is anyone else looking forward to Strangers of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origins? So far the game looks interesting to me, and I am considering trying to find a few players to maybe get a group together to play. If all goes well, and we don't hate each other, we could make it a regular thing? This all relies on the full release being a good game and all ...
The state of the world has left me feeling a little isolated, and while this is not something I normally do, or am much good at, I thought I could give it a chance and maybe make some new friends.
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@KingGuy420: I'm well aware of that! I even alluded to the fact that there were other developers.🤔
But Squeenix has not always treated its published properties well, either.
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@Blackmist_FFXI They did say that saves will transfer over. Mrs Bee and I played the demo for a while, and I was surprised even she enjoyed it (she does not normally like more complicated or difficult games typically). We chose to stop playing the demo though to wait for the whole game to come out. Still not convinced I am buying it day one (still have HFW and GT7 to play, and Mrs Bee is also very excited about Tiny Tina next week), but I am highly likely going to pick it up at some point.
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I am confused where the assumption that all 5 spokes on the roulette have even odds of happening? I keep saying people say that there is a 60% chance of getting coins ... is that specifically mentioned somewhere, or is that an assumption made here? Also, as mentioned previously, just because the prize is determined upon receipt of the ticket, does not mean it was not determined randomly. They have nothing to do with one another. All that means is that the game knows what you will win as soon as you get the ticket. This is a way the developers can prevent you from "re-spinning" to get whatever prize you want. Still a random prize, you just can't rig the game.
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I am not sure it was ever a good idea to let a Bee drive a car ... It took me just under 2 hours to get the A-10 gold ... I am glad that a lot of people are finding these easy for the most part, but I find trying to drive a car with the controller to be difficult. I can mostly handle the steering, but feathering the throttle with the trigger seems to never go as I expected. I would probably be better if I had access to a wheel (honestly, pedals would be enough), but I don't as a good one would be far too expensive. I may be able to get better through practice, but it can be frustrating to fail something you know how to do, just fail to put into practice.
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Mrs Bee and I picked up Gran Turismo 7 on the weekend, and my god, you should never let a bee drive a car ... It has not been going well to put it kindly. We did eventually get all golds on both the B license and the A license, but it has taken way longer than expected given all the complaints I have heard of the licenses being too easy.
The game looks beautiful, and the feedback in the controller is really interesting. And it helps that I get my actual car (a 2015 BRZ, mine is actually 2014, but it is very close) very early on. Everything I have to say about the game is positive, except for the fact that I just simply cannot drive well using a controller. Having this game makes me wish I had a wheel, but to get a decent one would cost several hundred dollars, and getting a good one would be more than the whole ps5 system, so it just does not seem like a strong financial choice. Going to have to learn to drive with the handicap I guess ...
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In your initial post, you asked "Am I the only one who thinks this is moronic" and it sounds like you have gotten your answer. Most people are either ok with this, or at least expected it. Personally, I am not surprised the game was not made to cater to trophy hunters, we are the minority. I know little about the game in question, but you have to ask yourself, maybe the choices made in these trophies meant something to someone on the team, so they wanted to share that adventure with a milestone. You also keep getting hung up on "150 hours" as if that should be the upper bound of the game. Maybe its not a 150 hour platinum, maybe its closer to 250 if you are exploring yourself. Nothing wrong with that either. All that being said, I too tend to look at a guide before I play a game to find out what is missable and what I need to pay attention to, but that is how I choose to play the game, and I can't expect the developers to cater to me and my choices.
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