Trumpet_Boi_208 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 11 hours ago, realm722 said: Amazing job with this man - awesome 1st update. I hadn't commented but voted for Rain World for selfish reasons given it's such a unique game that I was kinda hoping you'd be the "test dummy" for it and lay out a plan of attack if I ever got bold enough to attempt it lol. If you’re scared to try it, then start out as The Monk for a more peaceful experience. If you have a PS plus subscription, I recommend using the save cloud as a backup, in case you get stuck in an area because of its difficulty. Your map progress is also saved across characters, so you can also use this playthrough to scout out the areas and become more familiar with the map, so that you can designate paths to follow and become stuck less often. Then, once you’re more comfortable with the game, start again as The Survivor. If you have patience to tolerate some unfair deaths and harsh mechanics, then Rain World is a phenomenal experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExistentialSolid Posted February 3, 2021 Author Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, realm722 said: Amazing job with this man - awesome 1st update. I hadn't commented but voted for Rain World for selfish reasons given it's such a unique game that I was kinda hoping you'd be the "test dummy" for it and lay out a plan of attack if I ever got bold enough to attempt it lol. But these Splasher updates are phenomenal - I love the fact you're including your speedrun times in YouTube videos not only are they entertaining but they also provide a huge help to those in the future who'll attempt them given Splasher isn't the biggest game in the world. Kinda wish I had done it in hindsight for my Unravel Two runs. Keep up the great work! Thank you! I really appreciate the kind words! ? Knowing that people enjoy these updates makes it all worthwhile! Rain World looks gorgeous and I hope I'm able to give it a try sometime regardless of whether it wins a future poll! The trophy guide on PSNP for Rain World seems like top-notch material and I'm sure it'd be able to help quite a bit more than my updates would if you decide to give the game a shot sometime! Edited February 4, 2021 by ExistentialSolid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExistentialSolid Posted February 3, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) Sorry to post again so soon but I managed back-to-back #1 spots for levels 7 and 8 in Splasher and had to share! Level 7 took about 2 hours of grinding and level 8 took roughly 5 hours. Here's the videos for both levels if you'd like to see them! Level 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVJw23-KbeA Level 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxE-uIX9q8M Edited February 3, 2021 by ExistentialSolid 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpet_Boi_208 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) If by chance Rain World ever gets nominated in this challenge, I only have one tip. Do not kill too many lizards in one region, or else you will get a nasty surprise... Glad to see you doing Splasher though! This will likely be something for you to show off in your trophy cabinet. Good luck! Edited February 3, 2021 by Trumpet_Boi_208 Grammar :( 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, ExistentialSolid said: Sorry to post again so soon but I managed back-to-back #1 spots for levels 7 and 8 in Splasher and had to share! Level 7 took about 2 hours of grinding and level 8 took roughly 5 hours. Here's the videos for both levels if you'd like to see them! Level 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVJw23-KbeA Level 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxE-uIX9q8M Nice job! Some really fast times you got there. ? Pretty sure I still have a couple #1's myself, hopefully you don't make me redownload ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExistentialSolid Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Trumpet_Boi_208 said: If by chance Rain World ever gets nominated in this challenge, I only have one tip. Do not kill too many lizards in one region, or else you will get a nasty surprise... Glad to see you doing Splasher though! This will likely be something for you to show off in your trophy cabinet. Good luck! Thanks! ? You've got me curious about this "nasty surprise." I'll have to google later! 6 hours ago, MiIeski said: Nice job! Some really fast times you got there. Pretty sure I still have a couple #1's myself, hopefully you don't make me redownload Thank you! Sounds like a challenge to me! ? I hope you're ready to redownload! Edited February 4, 2021 by ExistentialSolid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenoblast91 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 10 hours ago, ExistentialSolid said: Sorry to post again so soon but I managed back-to-back #1 spots for levels 7 and 8 in Splasher and had to share! Level 7 took about 2 hours of grinding and level 8 took roughly 5 hours. I think you really like the grind. I mean, you like the replay value of games more that other factors; I think that's the reason is such difficult for you to stick to a completion record. Even so, with such powerful abilities and skills I would play more and more varying titles, to be honest. Outstanding job in playing this game, looks fun and surely addicting. Also, just for mentioning, you could easily finish your Final Fantasy titles out there, specially IX; just a suggestion -not nominating-, which could boost your impressive status way further (speaking about for finishing your games). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnlMatrix Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) Good god, number one spots in levels 7 and 8. Both of them took me a while to get the platinum times on but I'm nowhere near the top spot , very impressive. I'm curious if your full game speedrun times will be that good as well. Edited February 4, 2021 by JohnlMatrix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExistentialSolid Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Xenoblast91 said: I think you really like the grind. I mean, you like the replay value of games more that other factors; I think that's the reason is such difficult for you to stick to a completion record. Even so, with such powerful abilities and skills I would play more and more varying titles, to be honest. Outstanding job in playing this game, looks fun and surely addicting. Also, just for mentioning, you could easily finish your Final Fantasy titles out there, specially IX; just a suggestion -not nominating-, which could boost your impressive status way further (speaking about for finishing your games). Thanks, I appreciate the compliments but my skills are nothing special. Nearly anyone could replicate anything I've done with practice and the right mindset. Splasher is a blast to play so that really helps keep me motivated! As far as my completion rate goes, I've accepted the fact that my profile will never really fit the mold of an "ideal" profile. There are plenty of games I've started but will probably never finish because my attention eventually drifts elsewhere. I may definitely return to games like FFIX in the future if they sound fun in the moment but I don't really want to force myself to finish games for the sake of maintaining a high completion rate. I love a challenge though so I do plan on completing many other difficult games! 8 hours ago, JohnlMatrix said: Good god, number one spots in levels 7 and 8. Both of them took me a while to get the platinum times on but I'm nowhere near the top spot , very impressive. I'm curious if your full game speedrun times will be that good as well. Ultimately, beating that platinum time is what's most important although I'm sure you've got what it takes to earn top spots in any of these levels if you're willing to put in the time. ?I'm been curious about the full game speedruns too! One of the downsides to my leaderboard-focused approach to platinum medal grinding is that some of the strategies used in the individual level runs are too risky to be used with consistency during full game speedruns (at least at my current skill level). I may need to make another quick pass at each of the individual levels in an effort to improve consistency by practicing safer, speedrun-viable routing unless I want to finish a speedrun with 50+ deaths. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnlMatrix Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 hours ago, ExistentialSolid said: Ultimately, beating that platinum time is what's most important although I'm sure you've got what it takes to earn top spots in any of these levels if you're willing to put in the time. I'm been curious about the full game speedruns too! One of the downsides to my leaderboard-focused approach to platinum medal grinding is that some of the strategies used in the individual level runs are too risky to be used with consistency during full game speedruns (at least at my current skill level). I may need to make another quick pass at each of the individual levels in an effort to improve consistency by practicing safer, speedrun-viable routing unless I want to finish a speedrun with 50+ deaths. That's what I thought as well. Many risky strats could save some time in a speedrun but would probably end up costing us up to 30 seconds if we die. Maybe it's not worth it. If you manage to get platinum times in speedruns while dying all that remains will be the no-death run where you can use safe strategies. Except for the levels where you're chased by acid that is. In the end it will come down to nerves.^^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CrimsonMercury Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 Finally got my Splasher plat today. Good luck to @ExistentialSolid and everyone else still working on it! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mori Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 35 minutes ago, CrimsonMercury said: Finally got my Splasher plat today. Good luck to @ExistentialSolid and everyone else still working on it! Congratz, impressive completion time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnlMatrix Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, CrimsonMercury said: Finally got my Splasher plat today. Good luck to @ExistentialSolid and everyone else still working on it! Would you like to elaborate on your way towards the plat? How did you approach the speedruns and the no-death run. How many tries did it take you? Edited February 6, 2021 by JohnlMatrix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExistentialSolid Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, CrimsonMercury said: Finally got my Splasher plat today. Good luck to @ExistentialSolid and everyone else still working on it! Whoa, huge congrats @CrimsonMercury! You absolutely dominated Splasher, even managing to earn the fastest overall completion time on PSNP! Great work! Edited February 6, 2021 by ExistentialSolid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CrimsonMercury Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, JohnlMatrix said: Would you like to elaborate on your way towards the plat? How Did you approach the speedruns and the no-death run. How many tries did it take you? In my opinion, the deathless trophy is without a doubt the hardest task in the entire game. Not only do you have to beat the game with zero deaths, but you will also have to deal with yellow ink delay as an additional frustration. I think the aiming is a little weird as well sometimes, but that could just be my own fault. I don't know if anyone is aware of this, but you can quickly pause and restart a level if you're about to die, and then continue the run. You still won't be able to react quick enough to most deaths though, but it helps if you accidentally fall off of a platform or something. Unfortunately I only realised this after spending countless hours of failing repeatedly. I'm not sure if this would have made much of a difference regarding my time spent towards the trophy (if I'd known it sooner) but it definitely would have prevented a few deaths here and there. Obviously this would be useless when going for the platinum medals because it'll just add more time to the clock. The platinum medals aren't too difficult in comparison. The individual levels are the trickiest part imo since you'll need to play almost perfectly, but once you figure out a good route it's manageable. The full game speedruns are much more forgiving and you can still succeed even after messing up a few times. And you really don't have to do anything risky at all. Just don't restart everytime you die or waste some time, because things can turn around as the run progresses. If I had to rank everything by difficulty, it would be: 1. Deathless Run 2. IL Medals 3. Gotta Catch em all Speedrun 4. Selfish Speedrun 5. Standard Speedrun Edited February 7, 2021 by CrimsonMercury 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExistentialSolid Posted February 7, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) On 2/3/2021 at 4:26 PM, MiIeski said: Nice job! Some really fast times you got there. Pretty sure I still have a couple #1's myself, hopefully you don't make me redownload @Mileski, is this enough #1 thievery for you to redownload Splasher? In all seriousness, your times were really fun to race against! ? I must have watched your runs a dozen times each looking for openings and ways to optimize my time. ~ Videos of the runs ~ Level 14: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_aypf9kRzM Level 15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6UXL9vVHwo Edited February 7, 2021 by ExistentialSolid 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnlMatrix Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Wow, without really going for top spots I was quite surprised when I managed to earn the second spot on level 15 with only mileski being faster. Considering what it took to get there, maintaining momentum, activating platforms a tad earlier and so on I gotta say: Congrats @ExistentialSolid, you managed to beat that by nine tenths of a second. And we know how much time that this when going for individual level plat medals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_Johansen Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 You should rename the title to "destroying games" because you are killing it with those times. Not going to lie, I struggle a lot with level 15 and then you beat it with 2 seconds to spare. Keep it going. Can someone explain what this "ink delay" is that I keep reading about? I have never noticed any delay when it comes to ink. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 8 hours ago, ExistentialSolid said: @Mileski, is this enough #1 thievery for you to redownload Splasher? In all seriousness, your times were really fun to race against! I must have watched your runs a dozen times each looking for openings and ways to optimize my time. ~ Videos of the runs ~ Level 14: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_aypf9kRzM Level 15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6UXL9vVHwo Well fucking done mate, honestly I'm not sure if I could beat my own times at this point! I'll redownload once I clean some stuff up. Gonna have to do some research myself ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonMercury Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 9 hours ago, ExistentialSolid said: @Mileski, is this enough #1 thievery for you to redownload Splasher? In all seriousness, your times were really fun to race against! I must have watched your runs a dozen times each looking for openings and ways to optimize my time. ~ Videos of the runs ~ Level 14: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_aypf9kRzM Level 15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6UXL9vVHwo My internet is so bad that most of my times aren't even registered on the leaderboards, yet you're here getting number 1 spots like it's going out of fashion?. Good job buddy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExistentialSolid Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, JohnlMatrix said: Wow, without really going for top spots I was quite surprised when I managed to earn the second spot on level 15 with only mileski being faster. Considering what it took to get there, maintaining momentum, activating platforms a tad earlier and so on I gotta say: Congrats @ExistentialSolid, you managed to beat that by nine tenths of a second. And we know how much time that this when going for individual level plat medals. Thanks! ? I'm lucky I had Mileski's route to study; if he hadn't made a video of his run, I probably would never have picked up on some of the optimizations that went into those nine tenths of a second. 12 hours ago, Danny_Johansen said: You should rename the title to "destroying games" because you are killing it with those times. Not going to lie, I struggle a lot with level 15 and then you beat it with 2 seconds to spare. Keep it going. Can someone explain what this "ink delay" is that I keep reading about? I have never noticed any delay when it comes to ink. Thank you! ? Level 15's platinum medal time was brutal and I struggled a lot more than I may have made myself appear if I'm being honest! I'm still a little uncertain on what "ink delay" is myself. According to the others, there is occasional delay when firing the yellow ink which can lead to an early death if you happen to get unlucky. Some believe the delay could be caused by button remapping via the PS4's accessibility settings (some players opt to map red ink to L1 and yellow ink to R1). I don't think I've experienced any delay myself though so other players may be better able to explain the issue. Since you have the most recent experience with the issue @CrimsonMercury, would you be able to explain the delay to us? 12 hours ago, MiIeski said: Well fucking done mate, honestly I'm not sure if I could beat my own times at this point! I'll redownload once I clean some stuff up. Gonna have to do some research myself Haha, no rush! ? And thanks! I'm confident you could beat any of my best times with practice so it's really only a matter of how competitive you want to get! 11 hours ago, CrimsonMercury said: My internet is so bad that most of my times aren't even registered on the leaderboards, yet you're here getting number 1 spots like it's going out of fashion. Good job buddy Thanks! ? The leaderboards have been a mess for me too even with decent internet so it's not just you, don't worry! Edited February 7, 2021 by ExistentialSolid 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExistentialSolid Posted February 7, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) Splasher ~ Update #2No new trophies? What's going on? Not to worry! In the last update, I mentioned that I would be trying to earn the platinum medal in each of Splasher's individual levels and that this would probably be a time consuming process because of the personal goal I set of trying to earn a "top 9" leaderboard time in all 22 levels. I'm happy to report that all is going well and I am still on track to achieve this goal! My plan for this update is to provide a brief overview of the levels that I've finished and to highlight a few more ways to shave precious time off the clock. With the platinum medals for levels 1-6 included in the previous update, levels 7-15 have now been added to the pile! Instead of linking nine different YouTube videos for this update, I've decided it would be best to make a playlist of the individual levels and simply link the playlist for anyone that would like to check out the videos of my level runs. I will, however, include the video of one of my favorite runs below along with my leaderboard positions for each level for those that just want the juicy bits:Splasher Individual Level Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2kP5IJebevdf1NKM0MJxNnSrzAewXjn2 Level 7 (#1 on leaderboards) ~ Level 12 (#1 on leaderboards) Level 8 (#1 on leaderboards) ~ Level 13 (#5 on leaderboards) Level 9 (#3 on leaderboards) ~ Level 14 (#1 on leaderboards) Level 10 (#3 on leaderboards) ~ Level 15 (#1 on leaderboards) Level 11 (#1 on leaderboards) Favorite ~ Level 14 'Inkorp Express' Any more tips on how to save time in Splasher? If you want a faster time, understanding the optimal route through a level is essential. No amount of skill will make up for poor routing. Before diving into a level, I like to scout out and study reference runs in advance so that I have a baseline to work with. Having an approach for each section of a level takes a lot of the guesswork out of the process and makes your job easier. Going in reference-free can be a great approach too although I'd highly recommend comparing your route with a reference once you are satisfied with your progress. You may naturally find sections of a level that you can route more effectively than your reference when comparing the two runs (which is great!), but be careful that you do not mistakenly assume route x is faster than route y without doing a bit of testing if there is ever ambiguity. Now, you might ask: how can you tell if one route is faster than another? The answer is to experiment via the game's checkpoint system. In each level, there are typically five or more checkpoints that, when passed, will generate split times based on your current personal best time in the level (a "split" in this game is the amount of time that has elapsed between the start of the level and checkpoint X) . These splits will generally look something like this: If the split is green, then you've managed to shave some time off your personal best. If the split is red, then you've wasted time and should probably reconsider any modified routing (assuming execution was not an issue). Keep in mind that splits will only update once you have improved your final time on a level. As a result, you may need to do some quick math to determine whether a new route is effective when testing (for example, you may always have a green split time regardless of whether a route is faster or slower and will need to take the difference between the two). For the sake of consistency, I generally prefer to race against the same set of splits so I rarely finish a level unless there has been significant improvement to my time. Even with excellent routing, your time will fall apart if your execution is sloppy. I mentioned in the previous update that you are generally faster in the air than you are on the ground. Today, I'd like to talk about an exception: vertical cornering. When you are running vertically and are approaching a corner, you will want to minimize your air time and round the corner as close to the edge as possible. Here's a quick example of what I'm talking about: (https://imgur.com/yo7hErm - in case the gif fails to load) You can see that I start jumping far enough away from the corner's edge so that I land shortly after the corner has been rounded. Be careful that you do not brush up against the edge of the corner by jumping slightly too early as doing so will often cost 1-2 tenths of a second. It is usually better to jump slightly late than slightly early to reduce the risk of brushing up against a corner. Practicing good vertical cornering can save you several tenths of a second per jump so it is essential to learn if you want to chase those platinum medal times!What's Next? I have two goals for the next update: Finish the remaining seven individual levels with a top 9 leaderboard time. Start practicing the "Selfish" speedrun by completing a minimum of one run. As a reminder, the "Selfish" speedrun consists of all 22 individual levels back-to-back. Just like in time trial mode, there are no Splashers to rescue. The only thing to worry about is getting to the end of each level as quickly as possible. If I manage to finish the run in less than 43:44:48, then I will earn the platinum medal for that speedrun and can move on to the next objective! I plan to post the next update, with more on these goals, 5 days from now on February 12th! Thanks for sticking with me and see you all soon! ? Edited February 7, 2021 by ExistentialSolid 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonMercury Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, ExistentialSolid said: I'm still a little uncertain on what "ink delay" is myself. According to the others, there is occasional delay when firing the yellow ink which can lead to an early death if you happen to get unlucky. Some believe the delay could be caused by button remapping via the PS4's accessibility settings (some players opt to map red ink to L1 and yellow ink to R1). I don't think I've experienced any delay myself though so other players may be better able to explain the issue. Since you have the most recent experience with the issue @CrimsonMercury, would you be able to explain the delay to us? It's basically when the game registers your yellow ink input maybe a tenth of a second too late, which can cause you to jump straight into hazards in areas where you'll need to bounce from a very specific spot to reach the next wall/ceiling/platform. It can also lead to you falling off of a platform if you wait to bounce till the last moment. I don't think it's exclusive to a remapped button either because I left both the red and yellow ink as the default face buttons and only remapped my water gun to R2. I'm not sure what exactly causes this to happen but it's probably because the game moves at such a fast pace. I never ran into the issue once until I started doing the full game speedruns where it occurred quite frequently and lead to death almost every time. If you're lucky enough to never encounter this problem at all during your time with the game then I can guarantee you'll have a much easier time with the platinum overall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnlMatrix Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 @ExistentialSolid: I was wondering, since you like to challenge yourself even further by trying to obtain Top 9 ranks for the individual levels, whether or not you will try to achieve the no-death run and the selfish speedrun plat medal at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExistentialSolid Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, JohnlMatrix said: @ExistentialSolid: I was wondering, since you like to challenge yourself even further by trying to obtain Top 9 ranks for the individual levels, whether or not you will try to achieve the no-death run and the selfish speedrun plat medal at the same time. Right now, it's tough to say. I think the platinum medal for the Selfish speedrun will happen first but there's a good chance that I'll naturally earn the platinum medal again during the no-death run if I keep up a reasonable pace. Since a lot of the obstacles in Splasher operate on cycles, it is probably safest to be relatively quick anyway to ensure that I don't get out of sync with any dangerous sections of a level. Slowing down, while helpful in some cases, will generally make the levels riskier/more unpredictable in the long run. That said, I have been considering attempting the no-death run on Selfish before moving on to the Standard/Gotta Catch'em All speedruns since the routing will be fresh in my mind, but I haven't decided just yet! Edited February 8, 2021 by ExistentialSolid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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