Popular Post VegaMan-X4 Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, Lordidude said: Whether you like it or not, awards push sales. The data on that is crystal clear. Oscars push box office sales. Grammys push album sales. VG awards push video game sales. I really don't understand how people can be so angry over a piece of medium they creatively don't agree with. lol Debatable. The product has to be good to begin with. Which in case of tLoU2 is subjective to say the least. How many awards Monster Hunter World got, for example (don't know, don't care. Personally speaking)? My point stands - people in general don't really care about awards (fanboyism aside). And, honestly, I don't know what else there is to add on this matter. I'm not angry. Just pointing out some pretty obvious flaws with this release (and tLoU2 boxart is undoubtedly among those). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lordidude Posted January 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, VegaMan-X4 said: Debatable. The product has to be good to begin with. Which in case of tLoU2 is subjective to say the least. No one forces you to like the game. You force yourself to argue in forums with other players. When you argue that the game is bad despite it's decorations you hide behind "it's subjective". Weirdly enough that logic does not apply when people argue in favor of the game. Your first comment was "no one cares" and yet you are still here. The trolling is very inefficient, please stop it. Edited January 26, 2021 by Lordidude 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stardroid Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) It's actually kind of cringe that the people who "don't care for this game" are also the most vocal about it and it continuously shows. Here and on platforms like Youtube. It's not only a critically acclaimed game by journalists, it's also loved by the people. But if you would go to the Youtube gaming sphere for example, you will find a lot of clickbait garbage crapping all over this game by the people who do not care. These gamers thought they sabotaged Tlou2, they thought they won over ND, they thought ND was done as a company and they just keep shifting the goalpost. From ND is finished to nobody cares about rewards! Because that's how sad people cope with video games. Some of you really need to grow the hell up. There may be games that you liked more than Tlou2, which is perfectly fine. But it beats all games out of the water, for people in general. I know people who claim that rewards are useless and nobody cares while linking the Game Award polls to vote on Ghost of Tsushima. There are even people out there so pathetic they want others to vote GoT, just to beat Tlou2. I ain't making it up. Vocal gamers, man ... I can see why we get a bad rep. Too many dumb folks, too many hypocrites, too much outrage culture and not a whole lot of action. Luckily though, the vast majority of gamers isn't like this and Tlou2 is a living example of that. While some of you circle jerk on Youtube and cry that Abby benches more than you, the people have spoken. Edited January 26, 2021 by Stardroid 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyRutz Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, VegaMan-X4 said: No need. Can you name me a hypothetical person who walks into a store and asks for a game with the most awards? I seriously doubt you can find one. There is no need to go to extremes. I would not expect somebody to go to the store and asks for a game with the most awards. 1) First and the most important. As it was already mentioned, awards do help push sales, though. Awards are not written all over the game covers/posters just for the sake of it. People marketing these games are not stupid and every decision is backed up by hard data. 2) I also expect OP to care about the awards since he created this topic to discuss it. I don't know about you, but I don't create topics to discuss stuff I do not care about. 3) Nobody cares about the awards yet every time I visit some online discussion half of the people is triggered that all of the awards did not go to Ghost of Tsushima. The circle jerk around GoT is even more annoying than TLOU one in my opinion. I'm not saying it wasn't a good game but judging by these people it is a godsend straight from heaven and it needs to be mentioned under every TLOU post. So, I guess these people also do care about it since they are so offended by it for some reason. 57 minutes ago, VegaMan-X4 said: Debatable. The product has to be good to begin with. Which in case of tLoU2 is subjective to say the least. 4) You. Edited January 26, 2021 by BloodyRutz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4Knight Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Man, I walked away from Part II with the goal of waiting for the heat to die down. People just can’t have fun talking about this game. But here’s the negativity alive and well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavergray Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Good for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lordidude Posted January 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 49 minutes ago, BloodyRutz said: So, I guess these people also do care about it since they are so offended by it for some reason. The reason is very simple. They are insecure about themselves and don't distinguish between their identity and their opinions. When people have a different opinion they feel personally attacked and get defensive. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ptirle Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 I dont see anyone here angry or insecure that dont like tlou2 and awards. I would rather say that rather atributes the other bunch. We just say that game is shit, we are not angry about it. Move on. FF7 is my Goty, I dont see anyone mentions that game, and although its just one third of the remade ps1 game, it blows away tlou2 and ghost of tshusima by far in every aspect, to me. No one, nor you, nor Neil, nor blu checkmarks, will tell me or convince me that any other game is Goty of 2020. But thats me, anyway who cares about what I say? I play and like vg because of me, not other people. Chill and again, move on. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoaLoft Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Well-deserved. In terms of quality, it's an insanely polished package. Talking about their work ethics is an entirely different matter, but the product itself - impactful and memorable. Now that I've said my piece, I can sit back and watch the haters flood this thread as well, before the mods come to inevitably put a lock on it (or remove it entirely). Don't these people have anything else to do with their lives, like go outside and massively protest against wearing masks or claim that COVID is make-believe and other nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Abby_TheLastofUs Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 Whether you feel its deserved or not, it's quite the accomplishment for any game. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quink666 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I wonder how long it’ll take before this thread gets locked. Seems to be what happens to the majority of TLOU threads. I did enjoy everything in the game but the story. Felt like it was very basic and predictable, all except Joel’s death. Gameplay, soundtrack, graphics are all 10/10 but story is only 7ish/10. GOTY for me was easy Sushi. But it’s nice to see the studio get some recognition for their hard work. Naughty Dog is still masters in telling stories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katt Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Well deserved. A journey that I will not forget. I know this game won the GOTY but for me the most important award was the Innovation in Accessibility. Something as basic as customizable subtitle fonts should be a standard in every game, among other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehUberCheezCatz Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 wow, too bad they don't mean anything 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abby_TheLastofUs Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, talespagni said: If not for the huge backlash the game got with every new trailer and then the leaks, The Last of Us Part II could have actually been used as a great example to support this statement. It featured a cast more diverse than your standard AAA game, and not only did it sell really well but it set the record for most GOTY awards voted by the audience. Edited January 26, 2021 by Abby_TheLastofUs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quink666 Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said: It featured a cast more diverse than your standard AAA game, and not only did it sell really well but it set the record for most GOTY awards voted by the audience. Then why did Ghosts of Tsushima win almost every people’s vote award? Thta surely must mean Ghost got more votes. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Abby_TheLastofUs Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Quink666 said: Then why did Ghosts of Tsushima win almost every people’s vote award? Thta surely must mean Ghost got more votes. GOT has won 11 people's choice/readers' choice awards so far. TLOU2 has won 92. The last record holder was The Witcher 3 with 88 awards. Edited January 26, 2021 by Abby_TheLastofUs 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quink666 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said: GOT has won 11 people's choice/reader's choice awards so far. TLOU2 has won 92. The last record holder was The Witcher 3 with 88 awards. Damn. I must have only seen the ones where Ghost won then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma999 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Good for TloU2 to be the biggest number of awards winner, it still hasn't changed my mood to even pick up the game. Play what you want and feel like it will be good for you, if it's awarded or not. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaden_Swe Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, VegaMan-X4 said: Debatable. The product has to be good to begin with. Which in case of tLoU2 is subjective to say the least. How many awards Monster Hunter World got, for example (don't know, don't care. Personally speaking)? My point stands - people in general don't really care about awards (fanboyism aside). And, honestly, I don't know what else there is to add on this matter. I'm not angry. Just pointing out some pretty obvious flaws with this release (and tLoU2 boxart is undoubtedly among those). Well, you havent even played it. Its fascinating really, how so many people, who havent played the game, can be so obsessed with it. I know why, and its hilarious But, most of us, who actually played the game, had a great time with a masterpiece of a story. The haters will never get to feel that way playing a game, that gotta suck so hard for them. Just now, Maaden_Swe said: Well, you havent even played it. Its fascinating really, how so many people, who havent played the game, can be so obsessed with it. I know why, and its hilarious But, most of us, who actually played the game, had a great time with a masterpiece of a story. The haters will never get to feel that way playing a game, that gotta suck so hard for them. Oh, I will not write any more in this thread, so hate away 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, VegaMan-X4 said: Debatable. The product has to be good to begin with. Which in case of tLoU2 is subjective to say the least. How many awards Monster Hunter World got, for example (don't know, don't care. Personally speaking)? My point stands - people in general don't really care about awards (fanboyism aside). And, honestly, I don't know what else there is to add on this matter. I agree with part of this. I don't think most people care about awards, especially for games. Yes, there has always been an Oscar bump, but that has to be taken in a relative sense. An Oscar for Twelve Years a Slave doesn't suddenly push its ticket sales up to the level of Transformers. I don't think we'll see much in the way of additional sales for TLoU, despite this bevy of awards. But this also underscores my disagreement with your statement. A product does NOT have to be good to generate sales, and again this is especially true for games. TLoU2 sold a bazillion copies even before people played it. So did CyPunk. People are just easily parted with money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker-Kun890 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) On 1/26/2021 at 5:50 AM, Stan Lee said: Before this thread gets flooded by incels, I will say that it is a great accomplishment. The reader's choice categories are particularly interesting so it goes to show that those who cried the loudest don't represent how most people who played actually feel, as well as goes against the ridiculous and childish notion that the game was only liked by critics and not actual gamers (with a lower-case "g"). Also pretty funny how those who say "who cares about these awards?" or "these awards mean nothing" are the ones who have the most to say about them, especially when a game they didn't like is in the spotlight. Nothing wrong with not liking a game but a bit of maturity wouldn't go amiss. [snip] I guess I'm lucky that I haven't played any of the 3 games mentioned in the OP (went for some mp TLOU1 trophies on ps3 but haven't played sp.) Now I can experience them all at once. Not much time right now to play with my daughter doing virtual learning for school, but maybe it's finally time I play the Uncharted series and TLOU 1-2.? That should hold me over till I get a PS5. Edited April 8, 2021 by Beyondthegrave07 Removed off topic discussion 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, starcrunch061 said: I don't think most people care about awards, especially for games. Yes, there has always been an Oscar bump, but that has to be taken in a relative sense. An Oscar for Twelve Years a Slave doesn't suddenly push its ticket sales up to the level of Transformers. I don't think we'll see much in the way of additional sales for TLoU, despite this bevy of awards. Awards in the entertainment industry are for pushing up the price tag for those producers/directors/actors on their next works. And gets people talking about their works. These video game awards winners will be using their awards to do the same thing. And getting people to talk about their works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary09 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 55 minutes ago, Quink666 said: Then why did Ghosts of Tsushima win almost every people’s vote award? Thta surely must mean Ghost got more votes. Uh it didn't lol. Ghost has won 11 reader's choice awards. TLOU2 has 90+. It's not even close. People feel that TLOU2 is the best game of 2020 and I can't disagree with them. It's on another level from something like Ghost of Tsushima. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quink666 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mercenary09 said: Uh it didn't lol. Ghost has won 11 reader's choice awards. TLOU2 has 90+. It's not even close. People feel that TLOU2 is the best game of 2020 and I can't disagree with them. It's on another level from something like Ghost of Tsushima. I know. It’s already been stated a few post before you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zephrese Posted January 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) God, anti-TLOU Part II and pro-TLOU Part II people are equally insufferable. If you don't like the game, then you don't like the game. No need to bash people who do like it at every turn and possible chance you get. Go outside and breathe in some fresh air instead of wasting so much time on a game you clearly dislike rather than something you actually do like. If you like the game, then you like the game. No need to justify it to anyone else. Also, stop acting like it's only the other side that is toxic when you're lowering yourself to their level and treating this game as if it's objectively better than everything else. (You're not changing these people's minds either, and you're going to actively push people who're on the fence away from this game by behaving this way) Grow up, ffs.- - - Edit: In case it wasn't obvious, I'm only talking about the extreme people on both ends of these petty arguments that often take it too far and can't stop for even five minutes. If you like or dislike the game and are being mature about it, then you're golden and not among the people I'm referring to here. Saying this now because I can see people from either side trying to scream at me for generalizing. (Even though it should be obvious that I'm only speaking to the extreme people on both ends here) Edited January 26, 2021 by Zephrese 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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