Trophy Thoughts?

[Gage]

You don't need to touch Merciless at all, and it's not worth playing unless you absolutely don't want to grind bond the fast but boring way at the end of normal playthrough. You only start a playthrough on Merciless then can just reload the old save on first playthrough. 

 

If you do want to play Merciless, it's really fucking rough. You get like 3 shot by enemies at the very start of the game. 

[hollowichigo99]

trophies are able to sync now

[Yuna4353]

15 minutes ago, Gage said:

You don't need to touch Merciless at all, and it's not worth playing unless you absolutely don't want to grind bond the fast but boring way at the end of normal playthrough. You only start a playthrough on Merciless then can just reload the old save on first playthrough. 

 

If you do want to play Merciless, it's really fucking rough. You get like 3 shot by enemies at the very start of the game. 

Dont you have to do a second playthrough due to the inmate registry 

[BeforeJam]

Finally. Posting the guide now. I was waiting for the English list to get updated before posting so we'd have the English descriptions.

[hash_braun]

Early days so it could change but looks like I'm first in the world for the time being!

[Gage]

4 minutes ago, Yuna4353 said:

Dont you have to do a second playthrough due to the inmate registry 

 

You don't need to do it on Merciless, and you only need to play for like 20 minutes to get to the point you can do fusion. 

[Yuna4353]

Just now, Gage said:

 

You don't need to do it on Merciless, and you only need to play for like 20 minutes to get to the point you can do fusion. 

Ah them what the boring/grindy bond method?

[Gage]

1 minute ago, Yuna4353 said:

Ah them what the boring/grindy bond method?

 

You redo the unique enemy request in the final jail over and over for 10 - 15 hours. 

[hash_braun]

Just now, Gage said:

 

You redo the unique enemy request in the final jail over and over for 10 - 15 hours. 

 

Best advice for this one is do it through remote play on PC and set up a macro to automatically accept the request, fast travel, walk to the boss and spam it with maxed out Alice Eiha attacks.

 

Then you can let that run while you go about your day and just have to walk your character back to the exit every five or so minutes (manually because it's impossible to set a macro not knowing where they'll be positioned after the battle).

[Yuna4353]

1 hour ago, hash_braun said:

 

Best advice for this one is do it through remote play on PC and set up a macro to automatically accept the request, fast travel, walk to the boss and spam it with maxed out Alice Eiha attacks.

 

Then you can let that run while you go about your day and just have to walk your character back to the exit every five or so minutes (manually because it's impossible to set a macro not knowing where they'll be positioned after the battle).

I am now curious how to set up this Macro

[hash_braun]

11 minutes ago, Yuna4353 said:

I am now curious how to set up this Macro

Google 'ps4 remote play macro by komefai' and read how to setup and use it.

 

Once that's done you can set up PS4 Remote Play, record yourself doing the above actions once and then just hit play and watch it go by itself! Again the only thing is the macro will only be good up to the end of the fight and so you'll have to pick up the controller each time it's done and go back to base ready to start the request/macro again.

[Biertje373]

5 hours ago, hash_braun said:

It's even easier on PS5, as soon as you take your console offline it'll auto-populate your non-synced trophies

Ah cool, thanks for the reply

On a side note:

Really glad that the list is up, even though I only got a few trophies so far (it is less motivating when the list isn't up yet) one of them was a level up trophy and I really wanted to show it off, I guess.

Edited February 24, 2021 by Biertje373

[YokA_sun]

4 hours ago, Gage said:

 

Really upset that NA and EU share a list this time. I was hoping for two more stacks.

Edited February 24, 2021 by YokA_sun

[Trini]

3 hours ago, hash_braun said:

Google 'ps4 remote play macro by komefai' and read how to setup and use it.

 

Once that's done you can set up PS4 Remote Play, record yourself doing the above actions once and then just hit play and watch it go by itself! Again the only thing is the macro will only be good up to the end of the fight and so you'll have to pick up the controller each time it's done and go back to base ready to start the request/macro again.

 

Thanks for sharing this, I might or might not use this method but it's good to know there's options for grindy situations like this. 

[elhaym1709]

Are there any difficult related trophies? 
I was having issues with bosses on Normal (maybe because it's my first "musou" game ever) and I switched the difficulty on Easy which is a piece of cake. 

Too bad it's not balanced at all :\

[SnowNinjaRaccoon]

4 minutes ago, elhaym1709 said:

Are there any difficult related trophies? 
I was having issues with bosses on Normal (maybe because it's my first "musou" game ever) and I switched the difficulty on Easy which is a piece of cake. 

Too bad it's not balanced at all :\

Nuh, you can play everything on easy. Only need to start Merciless for a trophy.

[SmugPieceCandy]

8 hours ago, Kishnabe said:

Hopefully the level and items carry through to Merciless playthrough.

 

They do on NG+

[elhaym1709]

8 minutes ago, SnowNinjaRaccoon said:

Nuh, you can play everything on easy. Only need to start Merciless for a trophy.

Thanks a bunch!

[arcanehornet_]

No separate stacc for NA and EU? Damn..

[LuckySlime]

3 minutes ago, arcanehornet_ said:

No separate stacc for NA and EU? Damn..

I'm kinda glad doing all persona stacks was enough I don't need more lol

[sealightbreeze]

Seems like it is pretty straightforward to me. Looks fun  Of course.... I still need to play the first game 

[YokA_sun]

When people say that you only need to start nightmare difficulty, realize that the short tutorial maze still may pose some challenge (you'd have to start from beginning if you lose a battle). It's highly recommended that you are well prepared for the last battle in that tutorial maze (if my memory serves me right, prepare best wind element strikes) sry I'm not sure about the English translation just about to start the run. 

[Gage]

8 minutes ago, YokA_sun said:

When people say that you only need to start nightmare difficulty, realize that the short tutorial maze still may pose some challenge (you'd have to start from beginning if you lose a battle). It's highly recommended that you are well prepared for the last battle in that tutorial maze (if my memory serves me right, prepare best wind element strikes) sry I'm not sure about the English translation just about to start the run. 

 

You don't need to even need to progress any on Merciless, the trophy pops like right when you choose to start the playthrough. 

Edited February 24, 2021 by Gage

[YokA_sun]

9 hours ago, Gage said:

 

You don't need to even need to progress any on Merciless, the trophy pops like right when you choose to start the playthrough. 

I just checked my progress. You are right, you don't need to proceed on merciless. However I found out the reason why one needs to finish the tutorial mazeL: It's whole lot faster on grinding experiences for that last trophy "eternal bonds" on the diamond monster in Shibuya jail/maze on the highest difficulty (damn what are those rare monsters called again in English version?). 

 

It's a lot more beneficial doing that than grinding on the low difficulty. It's 15 hours grind on metatron on normal difficulty according to Powerpyx' guide. It's completely waste of time. On merciless the rare monsters, it's 8-10 times faster.

I highly recommend using the first rare monster in the first maze on merciless for max bond (downside is that you need to come prepared with the best persona. Easy enough. Hopefully a guide can be posted by @BeforeJam )

Edited February 25, 2021 by YokA_sun

[jantrick2]

If anyone is planning on doing Merciless, make sure you have a persona with Zio skills before starting NG+. The 1st miniboss in the tutorial area is a bit of a pain otherwise.

15 hours ago, YokA_sun said:

I just checked my progress. You are right, you don't need to proceed on merciless. However I found out the reason why one needs to finish the tutorial mazeL: It's whole lot faster on grinding experiences for that last trophy "eternal bonds" on the diamond monster in Shibuya jail/maze on the highest difficulty (damn what are those rare monsters called again in English version?). 

 

It's a lot more beneficial doing that than grinding on the low difficulty. It's 15 hours grind on metatron on normal difficulty according to Powerpyx' guide. It's completely waste of time. On merciless the rare monsters, it's 8-10 times faster.

I highly recommend using the first rare monster in the first maze on merciless for max bond (downside is that you need to come prepared with the best persona. Easy enough. Hopefully a guide can be posted by @BeforeJam )

 

How early can you start grinding treasure demons (the rare monsters)? I just cleared the first keep in Shibuya