Life Is Strange: True Colors - September 10th

[DrBloodmoney]

3 minutes ago, PhantomFear94 said:

 

I liked Before the Storm as well, although 1 is my favourite by far. 

 

Part of the problem with 2 is the insane length between episodes. With Tell Be Why, it was all done within 3 weeks, took 15 months for 2.

ahh...

See, I played all of them once most or all episodes were out I think, so that wasn’t a factor for me - I can see that being an issue though, for sure

[thefourfoldroot]

So I’ve been a lesbian fighting evil white men and a hispanic guy fighting evil white men. Next up I guess I’ll be a transgendered person fighting evil white men and white feminists...

I do enjoy these games (and the plats are not taxing), but I hope they move away from the episodic format. The first I bought episodically but it frustrated me so much that the second I had to wait for the complete collection.

[TheDarkBlade9]

A new Life is Strange is nice, but I want a new Deus Ex. Unfortunately, I know it is too much to ask for from Square Enix.

[SHADOW-KILLER-S2]

I hope they announce that Tell Me Why comes to PS4 too.

[Atoya]

I don’t understand why people shit on LIS 2, the game took everything that made 1 great and made it better, but some of you aren’t even open minded to trying new things, the amount of details in that game is insane, I played 4 play troughs and every time I notice a small well made detail.

 

I can’t wait for the announcement!

[Sikutai]

28 minutes ago, Atoya said:

I don’t understand why people shit on LIS 2, the game took everything that made 1 great and made it better, but some of you aren’t even open minded to trying new things, the amount of details in that game is insane, I played 4 play troughs and every time I notice a small well made detail.

 

I can’t wait for the announcement!

 

Life is Strange 2 was only there to transport a political agenda. Keep actual politics out of games. This is my opinion.

Edited March 13, 2021 by Sikutai

[Breakingthegreen]

36 minutes ago, Atoya said:

I don’t understand why people shit on LIS 2, the game took everything that made 1 great and made it better, but some of you aren’t even open minded to trying new things, the amount of details in that game is insane, I played 4 play troughs and every time I notice a small well made detail.

 

I can’t wait for the announcement!

I don't understand either, the one thing slightly disappointing was the lack of the time manipulation mechanic, which I loved for weighing up short term vs long term decisions. Other than that, I found LiS 2 much more balanced politically, unless you think the phase "Racism is bad" to not be a universal term, so I don't get why some people dislike it on politics.

[DrBloodmoney]

4 hours ago, Sikutai said:

 

Life is Strange 2 was only there to transport a political agenda. Keep actual politics out of games. This is my opinion.

Everything has politics to it, but LiS is no more or less political than any other game.
 

Having a pro-inclusion message should not be viewed as a ‘political’ stance just because anti-inclusionists have a political wing, any more than eating meat should be viewed as a ‘political’ stance just because some vegan organisations have political action groups and lobbyists.

Edited March 13, 2021 by DrBloodmoney

[arcanehornet_]

54 minutes ago, Atoya said:

I don’t understand why people shit on LIS 2, the game took everything that made 1 great and made it better, but some of you aren’t even open minded to trying new things, the amount of details in that game is insane, I played 4 play troughs and every time I notice a small well made detail.

 

I can’t wait for the announcement!

I completely disagree, it was a bad story with unlikeable characters.

 

Right away the start of the game is stupid,

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The way the dad dies made me laugh. The armed officer is telling him to back off and yet he keeps escalating the situation and ends up dead. It is supposed to be an emotional moment but we barely knew this guy. It’s completely unearned.

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Also, Sean is a terrible person. He should have turned himself in at the start of the game, or went by himself instead of ruining his small brother’s life as well. Not to mention, he made his 9 YEAR OLD brother work at a weed farm..

Those are just two examples. I really didn’t enjoy much of the game, except that call back to the first game on the last chapter. 
It’s definitely the worst LiS game by far, I hope 3 steps things up.

 

EDIT: The political propaganda  as well. White people bad, cops bad, Trump bad. The game even makes a reference to “the wall” and directly references Trump as well. Can we keep politics out of video games please??

Edited March 13, 2021 by arcanehornet_

[Juzota]

31 minutes ago, Sikutai said:

 

Life is Strange 2 was only there to transport a political agenda. Keep actual politics out of games. This is my opinion.

 

Politics are only problem when you don't agree with them. Am I right?

[Tetho_mig]

Gamers : games narratives needs to be more ambitious and bold, to tell richer and more engaging stories.

Also gamers : keep politics out of my games.

 

 

 

Life is Strange 2 was a much more ambitious game than the first one. Dontnod didn't sat on their laurels, they tried (and managed) to produced a bigger and bolder game. They could have made another game with Max and Chloe, as the fan asked, but instead took some risk and produced something really different.

As it was a road trip, they could not reuse assets as much as they did in the first game, and there was much more branching path to the story. And they tried to include real world problems into the narrative.

Of course not everything was right, they took way too much time to release all episodes, and it hurt the pacing for those who wanted to play as soon as they were released. And at times it was awkward enough that you could tell it was a game about two runaway latino brothers written by white French guys in their office in Paris. But in the whole it was what every sequel should aim to be, bigger and bolder while managing to surprise its audience by giving them something different than what they expected.

 

If Deck Nine is producing the game, I hope they took the lessons in order to create a game worthy of this legacy. Before the storm was fine, I guess, but it took no risks and simply gave the fans what they were asking for.

[Ashbo]

Wonder if they will stick to the timed episodic releases, or just throw out a full game off the bat?

 

I didnt mind the first two games, but waited until their full 5 episode releases before playing them.

[Breakingthegreen]

17 minutes ago, arcanehornet_ said:

I completely disagree, it was a bad story with unlikeable characters.

 

Right away the start of the game is stupid,

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The way the dad dies made me laugh. The armed officer is telling him to back off and yet he keeps escalating the situation and ends up dead. It is supposed to be an emotional moment but we barely knew this guy. It’s completely unearned.

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Also, Sean is a terrible person. He should have turned himself in at the start of the game, or went by himself instead of ruining his small brother’s life as well. Not to mention, he made his 9 YEAR OLD brother work at a weed farm..

Those are just two examples. I really didn’t enjoy much of the game, except that call back to the first game on the last chapter. 
It’s definitely the worst LiS game by far, I hope 3 steps things up.

 

EDIT: The political propaganda  as well. White people bad, cops bad, Trump bad. The game even makes a reference to “the wall” and directly references Trump as well. Can we keep politics out of video games please??

In regards to those hidden parts:

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It should be hard to deny how many people die in a similar manner to the father, the BLM protests didn't resurface over nothing you know. And in regards to the weed farm, he needs the money, but he's on the run from the law so he needs to work for a business that also operates outside the law, you can wax moral about how that's not okay but the truth is they had little in the way of options. 

Keeping politics out of games would also practically impossible, hell, Super Mario has the message of Coups are bad in the 1980s, Crash Bandicoot and Sonic the Hedgehog are about how man's actions affect the environment. And the less said about Metal Gear the better. 

Plus the game doesn't say white people bad, that's just patently dishonest in the game you get help from the following white characters:

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Brody, Your Grandparents (who are shown to be Trump supporters,) Chris, Chris's father, Cassidy, Finn (well, he tries his best at least,) the son of the cult leader who's name I forgot, your mother, and even David.

You know it should be hard to deny "Trump Bad" given how 2021 started, or am I the only one who remembers that attack on the Capitol. We can see that fiction stating that he was bad news wasn't alarmist.

[Fr_0zt]

Just hope its like LIS1 and BTS.  LIS2 was a disappointment tbh. 

[Vern3r0z]

2 hours ago, TheDarkBlade9 said:

A new Life is Strange is nice, but I want a new Deus Ex. Unfortunately, I know it is too much to ask for from Square Enix.

amen to this!

[Atoya]

1 hour ago, arcanehornet_ said:

EDIT: The political propaganda  as well. White people bad, cops bad, Trump bad. The game even makes a reference to “the wall” and directly references Trump as well. Can we keep politics out of video games please??

Isn’t that true tho, trump is bad, some cops are always out of hand in every country, and I disagree about white people being bad in the game

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The only white people who were evil was Lisbeth and the shop owner, I didn’t find the others to be bad, a lot of them were actually cool, David, Brody, grand parents, the people in Arizona etc... it’s very easy to cherry pick on something and say “they meant this” when they clearly were showing you that racism do exist but not everyone is racist, there are the good and the bad in every culture, race, country and that’s what I loved about the game.

 

[DrBloodmoney]

7 hours ago, Juzota said:

 

Politics are only problem when you don't agree with them. Am I right?

i’m pretty sure in gaming’s case it’s “Politics are only politics when you don’t agree with them”

 

It’s funny - I never seem to see the same people complaining about the politics of games that are pro-police, or crime sims, or Call of Duty type war games, or Max Payne and the likes. The idea there is politics there too is just overlooked or ignored.  Because, as we all know, murder, warcrimes, genocide - those things are not politics, right?

 

“Sure, I’ll play as this game ultra-right wing, psychotic killer, that’s no problem - it’s in service of the story....

...but now your asking me to empathise with a minority, or a lesbian!? That’s a bridge too far!”

 

Edited March 13, 2021 by DrBloodmoney

[Janire1911]

I loved the original LiS and Before the Storm and LiS 2 was a decent game too so I'm definitely looking forward to the next installment in the series.

[LoveInHell]

Kinda weird how a Life Is Strange video got recommended to me just on Youtube. I didn’t know this was possible to do:

 

 

I didn’t know she could be a bitch lmao

 

3 hours ago, Juzota said:

 

Politics are only problem when you don't agree with them. Am I right?

I guess. I don’t understand why people make such a big deal out of politics in videogames. It makes people aware of the issues, it shouldn’t be ignored. It’s not like every game has a focus on politics, but when it happens once or twice, people just cry about it so much and apparently it makes a game bad? To me it’s very interesting to see awareness of problems in the world and it’s a wonderful thing it can be used in videogames. I know way too many people that don’t watch the news cause of how depressing it is, including me. I stopped watching it cause I feel other’s pain and just start crying, feeling like shit for the rest of the day but that does not mean people should look the other way.

Edited March 13, 2021 by LoveInHell

[MarcusPunisher]

10 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said:

no, of course not. 
Should no one ever be happy anything is being made, or anticipate anything, because it isn’t guaranteed to be good?

 

I don't know what this has to do when talking about the quality of the game. I don't really care if some people anticipate this game or not.

I’ve not been outside the real world either.

 

What method do you use?

 

Do you go practically, like, using a rocketship or some kind of reality distortion field, or do you go for the more metaphysical method, like taking peyote?

 

Personally, I am not a minority in america, a fugitive or related to a young child with extra-sensory powers, so I have little context for how a trip across a racist underbelly of America under those conditions would be, but I found my trip with the brothers to be a pretty interesting and engaging affair.

I've been to real world and I traveled outside of America to many countries. Trust me, the real world ain't working like that and it's not cartonishly evil like it's portrayed in LiS 2. I really don't want to talk about it in details, cause it just makes me infuriating on how poorly it portrays it subject matter so I'm gonna leave that topic.

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Both those games have appallingly poor scripts, and while Immortals may have some good things going for it outside of the laughable script, RE6 is an unconscionable piece of garbage on all levels - one that required an entire change in game design to rescue the franchise afterwards.

Both those games don't have the best writing, but they also don't actively insult my intelligence or stop the game to preach to me about subjects that ends being shallow. So there is at least a difference between stupid writing and insult one. And like I said before, those games substitute for good gameplay so I rather play those any day than LiS 2, whose "gameplay" was downgrades from LiS.

 

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No one is saying you have to like LiS2, but calling everyone who did ‘insane’ is not productive.

 

Neither is going after the IQ’s of the writers, simply because (I suspect) you don’t like their politics.

 

If you hated it, okay. No problem - but speaking in absolutes about how much “it sucked” (rather than just how much you personally hated it) on an anticipation thread is gauche.

You clearly have no stake in a Life is Strange 3, as you are obviously not going to play it, so your comment was obviously just made to coax a response, and you got one.

 

So... your welcome  

I couldn't really care less about politics, all I care is about good writing. I like shows or movies that can have various different political leaning, but it's presented well, that's what matters to me. Hell, I still defend the original LiS game to this day. The writers had a very controversial subject to tackle that they clearly did not understand (Cause few French white men will surely know about that a lot). Everything comes of as virtue signaling and shallow on surface with no substance. That's why I say it's a bad writing

 

I don't care if people like it, but saying that it's well written is insane, cause it's really not lol. Just because you didn't talk about my "personal" opinion isn't my problem. I say how it is for what I've seen and what I've seen is utter garbage that can't be taken seriously by a sane person who knows how the real world works. 

 

This is a free forum so I can comment wherever I want. ?  You know that you can usually skip my comment next time if you have been so bothered by it right?

 

Edited March 13, 2021 by MarcusPunisher

[DrBloodmoney]

1 hour ago, MarcusPunisher said:

I've been to real world and I traveled outside of America to many countries. Trust me, the real world ain't working like that and it's not cartonishly evil like it's portrayed in LiS 2. I really don't want to talk about it in details, cause it just makes me infuriating on how poorly it portrays it subject matter so I'm gonna leave that topic.

 

 

Okay.

 

You’ve been to many countries.

I’ll bet.

 

Let me guess...

 

The best countries?

All the best countries...

No one has been to as many countries as you...

Wonderful Countries...

Cofefe Countries.

Just beautiful countries....

 

 

And: ”Cartoonishly evil”?

...

you mean...

like the Umbrella Corporation?

Or the greek Gods in Immortals?

Or the Templars in Assassin’s Creed?

Or the villains in Spiderman?

...

Or the Bad guys in virtually every other game, on your list and mine (and everyone else's for that matter) - except for Life is Strange?

?

 

?.?.?.

 

And, as far as this word salad goes:

 

 

    

1 hour ago, MarcusPunisher said:

I don't care if people like it, but saying that it's well written is insane, cause it's really not lol. Just because you didn't talk about my "personal" opinion isn't my problem. I say how it is for what I've seen and what I've seen is utter garbage that can't be taken seriously by a sane person who knows how the real world works. 

 

I had to read that about 7 times just to try and piece together what you were aiming for. 

If you’re dissing writing, you got to try harder to... y’know....

Write.

 

 

I really don’t think your doing a great job here.

Look, in the end, I thought the story of LiS2 was good. You didn’t, and that’s fine.

I thought they handled the good and bad that exists inside people, often simultaneously, pretty fairly for what they could in the short game episodes. Obviously you didn’t.

 

I suspect there is an argument to be made for the way you felt out there - not one I’d likely agree with, but one that is, at the very least, coherent and thought through - but I don’t think you’re the guy to make it on this particular occasion.

 

Peace be with you, my brother - you’re a hell of a good trophy hunter btw - your list is mighty impressive ?

Edited March 13, 2021 by DrBloodmoney

[Dr_Mayus]

I could be interested in a new game. I have enjoyed the other 3 so far

[Babsimabuse]

Maybe we´ll get part 2 free as a "play at home" game...

[MarcusPunisher]

3 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said:

 

Okay.

 

You’ve been to many countries.

I’ll bet.

 

Let me guess...

 

The best countries?

All the best countries...

No one has been to as many countries as you...

Wonderful Countries...

Cofefe Countries.

Just beautiful countries....

 

3 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said:

 

 

And: ”Cartoonishly evil”?

...

you mean...

like the Umbrella Corporation?

Or the greek Gods in Immortals?

Or the Templars in Assassin’s Creed?

Or the villains in Spiderman?

...

Or the Bad guys in virtually every other game, on your list and mine (and everyone else's for that matter) - except for Life is Strange?

 

...

Again, what is the point here? It would be something different if I ever argued that the villains in those games were well written. But since you brought that up, Doctor Octavius in Spider-man 2018 feels more human is well written than anyone in LiS 2. It's also not like you can argue that the villains in the LiS series were not cartoonishly evil.

 

3 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said:

And, as far as this word salad goes:

 

 

    

 

I had to read that about 7 times just to try and piece together what you were aiming for. 

If you’re dissing writing, you got to try harder to... y’know....

Write.

Criticizing ones work doesn't require them to write. 

 

3 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said:

 

 

I really don’t think your doing a great job here.

Look, in the end, I thought the story of LiS2 was good. You didn’t, and that’s fine.

I thought they handled the good and bad that exists inside people, often simultaneously, pretty fairly for what they could in the short game episodes. Obviously you didn’t.

 

I suspect there is an argument to be made for the way you felt out there - not one I’d likely agree with, but one that is, at the very least, coherent and thought through - but I don’t think you’re the guy to make it on this particular occasion.

It's ok that you thought the story was good and maybe one day I would like to hear why, but I there are reasons why I believe the way the developers portrayed the serious subjects is not only bad, but also insulting to the way how it is in real life. They even had to emphasizes that it's not based on real life stories or events, when it clearly is. It doesn't ask or tackle any serious questions, it just shows the what without the why and it speaks for the audience rather than the audience speaking for themselves. There is no grey area in it to question the morality, rather it's more portrayed in a black & white matter from what feels like a perspective of an 8 year old child. It's not that simple and it's where LiS 2 story completely botches it's narrative. I can go on, but I'm really not in the mood to create an entire discussion about this game, cause it's that frustrating.

3 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said:

 

Peace be with you, my brother - you’re a hell of a good trophy hunter btw - your list is mighty impressive 

Appreciate the compliment. Hopefully, we can have a talk about different games next time.

[ahmedelebiary]

Life is Strange is definitely one of my favorite franchise, the first one is the best by far - there's no doubt in that - but unlike many people, I enjoyed the second one as well! Before the storm was also decent and I liked Chloe more there.

Can't wait to see what the new game brings ?❤️ so excited!! ?