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Reversal: PS3, Vita, And PSP Stores To No Longer Close Permanently

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11 minutes ago, ZitMeatloaf said:

How do you support these claims? There's no evidence for it. MS has made some big moves lately and had been in the news a lot, but that's a far cry from domination.

 

Demand for the PS5 remains highest of all the current systems - this is supported by sales data and scalping prices on eBay.

 

If any gaming company can make claims of leadership, it's Nintendo: despite two new systems in the market, their 4-year-old system continues to sell the most, and they truly dominate in Japan.

Because of all the big moves they've been making. How pro consumer they are compared to Sony. There stance on backwards compatibility etc. Game Pass is far superior to PS Now. There's lots of things. 

2 minutes ago, Eyjabria said:

 

How does it remove power from the customer if they offer a choice of subscribing to a service and playing various games via the service? You can also buy the games at any time just like you would on any other platform, except that you get a discount if you happen to be a GamePass subscriber. 

 

Many developers have told that being included in Xbox GamePass has increased their game sales both on Microsoft's and other platforms. I personally tried out a game on GamePass for PC on a whim, liked it and purchased 4 copies of it on other platforms. So I don't really follow you on how it's bad for the developers.

Sega themselves said they are really happy with Game Pass, there's a few developers that have said it. 

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23 minutes ago, Solercide said:

Just don't, most trophy hunters are Sony loyalists for the sake of trophies. 

 

To your question, yes I will be buying an Xbox Series X after this announcement :) Sony has been pulling so much BS in the last few years I am just getting tired of it. So yeah as soon as i have saved enough I will be buying an Xbox :) It will be good to revert back to my old gamer tag or make a new one I have not decided yet :D

 

It's fine if you want to buy an Xbox Series X, but to reiterate there has been no "announcement" made about the PlayStation Store on the ps3. Sony hasn't even commented on the matter and until they do it's just a rumour from an unnamed source. I wouldn't use this rumour solely as evidence for purchasing an Xbox Series X.

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13 minutes ago, Zanyverse said:

https://hackaday.com/2021/03/23/digital-playstation-3-purchases-may-only-live-as-long-as-your-pram-battery-without-sony-servers/#:~:text=Tindie-,Digital PlayStation 3 Purchases May Only Live As Long,PRAM Battery Without Sony Servers&text=Word of Sony shutting down,wildfire on the internet Monday.

 

If this article's speculation, (TL;DR is Digital games go poof as soon as the PS3 battery malfunctions) is correct, then it's Defcon5 for myself and everyone else who's been hoarding shit on the PS3, without ever going back to clean it up.


Only if it cannot reconnect to PSN. Which is not part of this rumor. And the CMOS battery costs about $5 to replace. 

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20 minutes ago, Zanyverse said:

https://hackaday.com/2021/03/23/digital-playstation-3-purchases-may-only-live-as-long-as-your-pram-battery-without-sony-servers/#:~:text=Tindie-,Digital PlayStation 3 Purchases May Only Live As Long,PRAM Battery Without Sony Servers&text=Word of Sony shutting down,wildfire on the internet Monday.

 

If this article's speculation, (TL;DR is Digital games go poof as soon as the PS3 battery malfunctions) is correct, then it's Defcon5 for myself and everyone else who's been hoarding shit on the PS3, without ever going back to clean it up.

 

Jesus Christ has anyone here ever replaced a CMOS battery on a computer motherboard?

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8 minutes ago, DaivRules said:


Only if it cannot reconnect to PSN. Which is not part of this rumor. And the CMOS battery costs about $5 to replace. 

True, but as soon as the internal clock goes out of sync you're basically fucked. 

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3 minutes ago, Lance_87 said:

 

Jesus Christ has anyone here ever replaced a CMOS battery on a computer motherboard?

No not personally, the most technical thing I have ever done to my PS3 is remove the hard drive and that was nerve racking.

 

I wish I was tech savvy because my PS3  no longer reads disc's but I lack the both the tools and know how to replace the disc drive.

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21 minutes ago, Cryogenicide_X said:

Because of all the big moves they've been making. How pro consumer they are compared to Sony. There stance on backwards compatibility etc. Game Pass is far superior to PS Now. There's lots of things.

This doesn't answer my question. I acknowledged Microsoft's recent moves. You claimed MS was dominating and that people were flocking to Xbox without any evidence. I provided evidence that more people are playing and want to play on Sony's and Nintendo's platforms.

 

MS is making moves, but they're currently in third place. That's not domination.

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5 minutes ago, Lance_87 said:

 

Jesus Christ has anyone here ever replaced a CMOS battery on a computer motherboard?

 

I've only ever needed to do it once, for a desktop PC. Out of all the computers and devices I've ever owned, I've only ever had a CMOS battery die on me once, even devices with CMOS batteries I've had around for 10-15+ years are still doing fine.

 

I'm not sure if it's the case with the PS3, but some devices charge the CMOS battery when powered on. It's usually when something has been sitting there unused for several years that CMOS batteries tend to die, at least from my own experience, and what I've heard from others. Just my own anecdotes of course, so take it with a pinch of salt.

 

Either way, CMOS batteries are super easy and cheap to replace, and if people are concerned about this being an issue when PSN inevitably gets taken offline for the PS3/Vita/etc., then I can only suggest replacing the batteries with brand new ones before whatever the cut off date would be for PSN going bye-bye (I'm sure Sony probably would announce that at least, even if it's on short notice). At least then you might get another 10 or so years out of it before that also dies, depending on the quality and use of the battery. But as previously discussed, homebrew can likely already circumvent this anyway if this scenario ever becomes reality.

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4 minutes ago, ZitMeatloaf said:

This doesn't answer my question. I acknowledged Microsoft's recent moves. You claimed MS was dominating and that people were flocking to Xbox without any evidence. I provided evidence that more people are playing and want to play on Sony's and Nintendo's platforms.

 

MS is making moves, but they're currently in third place. That's not domination.

What I said is the evidence. 

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2 minutes ago, Cryogenicide_X said:

What I said is the evidence. 

No, it's not. It's a list of things you like, which is fine, but it's not evidence for your claims. Especially the "flocking" claim.

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It‘s funny, how long is it now that this got first reported? 3 days ago?

 

Is Sony just waiting on the reaction only for this rumor before making an official statement or telling, that this rumor is false?

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2 hours ago, Cryogenicide_X said:

Why though when Microsoft aren't pulling anything like this?

Microsoft  is the one that made paid online the standard, for once.

You say they're pro-consumer... they have to, otherwise they're fucked, since they're completely outclassed by Sony, and Nintendo to a lesser extent. The sooner they gain power back, it's back to 2006-2013 with them.

These corporations too big to exist should never be treated good, or worse, as friends, I'd rather be a pirate if it happened.

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1 minute ago, Jeffboy265 said:

It‘s funny, how long is it now that this got first reported? 3 days ago?

 

Is Sony just waiting on the reaction only for this rumor before making an official statement or telling, that this rumor is false?

 

Yeah, a little more than 2 days at this time.

 

At least when they "closed" the old Store website the first reports included the emails that were actually sent to people.

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4 minutes ago, Jeffboy265 said:

It‘s funny, how long is it now that this got first reported? 3 days ago?

 

Is Sony just waiting on the reaction only for this rumor before making an official statement or telling, that this rumor is false?

It is more of a leak than a rumor. Internal source checked. "rumors" from an internal source, especially when a large vehicle says it is verified... we have seen this story many times. unfortunately I am inclined to believe that it is real, and I also say with great regret that I am not surprised at all in view of the anti-consumer path that Sony has been taking for the past two years.

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13 minutes ago, ZitMeatloaf said:

No, it's not. It's a list of things you like, which is fine, but it's not evidence for your claims. Especially the "flocking" claim.

Microsoft making the big moves - fact

Backwards compatibility far superior- fact

Game pass superior to PS Now - fact

Microsoft more pro consumer - fact

 

These are not things I like, it's true right now. As for me saying people are flocking to Xbox? You wouldn't believe the amount of people that I've heard this from, from so many topics, discussion boards, threads, YouTube. It seems to he the general consensus of awful lot of people for the most part. Even in this very thread people have said the same thing. 

14 minutes ago, Jeffboy265 said:

It‘s funny, how long is it now that this got first reported? 3 days ago?

 

Is Sony just waiting on the reaction only for this rumor before making an official statement or telling, that this rumor is false?

No, it's because it's typical Sony to do this. 

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13 minutes ago, Jeffboy265 said:

It‘s funny, how long is it now that this got first reported? 3 days ago?

 

Is Sony just waiting on the reaction only for this rumor before making an official statement or telling, that this rumor is false?

Maybe they are just letting it be for a hot minute while they rack in the cash from people scrambling to buy things full price before announcing anything. 

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2 hours ago, Cryogenicide_X said:

Let me ask everyone this... If this happens, is it enough to make you switch to Xbox?


No. Xbox is even worse with mandatory online setups and a far less active hacking/homebrew scene to eventually remove those requirements if Microsoft won't. And then there's their cross-gen discs which only have the Xbox One versions actually on the discs with a download requirement for the native Series X versions and their push towards subscriptions and cloud streaming.

And I say this as someone who owns an Xbox, an Xbox 360 and an Xbox One. I'll admit I've never been the biggest fan of Xbox consoles despite owning them all (they've always been third behind Sony and Nintendo for me), but the Xbox One really soured me on future Xbox consoles since it introduced the mandatory online setup, removed local accounts, had a significantly weakened first-party output and is where Microsoft started shifting its business model away from the traditional purchase model into a subscription one.

Basically Microsoft's policies and business model do not align with my preferences any more, so I've lost most of the little interest I had in Xbox consoles. It's cool that Microsoft has taken steps to rebuild its first-party output, even if I don't like that they acquired a whole publisher to do so, but that doesn't make up for the other issues unfortunately. Fair play to anyone else who's really into Xbox or likes Game Pass though, it's just not for me. That said, I probably will still buy a Series X at the end of its life just for its exclusives.

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2 hours ago, Cryogenicide_X said:

There's game pass and far superior backwards compatibility 😏

 

And? Like the guy you replied said, Xbox doesn't offer stuff that appeals to some of us. Just because they have a service where you get games for free, that doesn't automatically make their console completely appealing to us. There's certain games, franchises, developers on Playstation who's games I love. Xbox doesn't have anywhere near as much stuff that's my type of thing so I wouldn't switch over just because their features are better. The games are the main thing for me

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21 minutes ago, Cryogenicide_X said:

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Nevermind. We clearly have different standards for evidence. We're in agreement on MS's recent moves, which is all you're able to provide. Anecdotes of some people switching to Xbox aren't enough to convince me of a mass migration, and I supplied actual evidence to the contrary.

 

Probably not worth beating this dead horse any longer. I suppose I should answer your original question - no, closing the old storefronts wouldn't be enough to get me to switch to Xbox.

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1 minute ago, ZitMeatloaf said:

Nevermind. We clearly have different standards for evidence. We're in agreement on MS's recent moves, which is all you're able to provide. Anecdotes of some people switching to Xbox aren't enough to convince me of a mass migration, and I supplied actual evidence to the contrary.

 

Probably not worth beating this dead horse any longer. I suppose I should answer your original question - no, closing the old storefronts wouldn't be enough to get me to switch to Xbox.

I didn't mean to cause argument or anything like that, wasn't my intention. Trust me, I'm one the biggest PlayStation fans you could know but I just get pissed off sometimes with these desicions Sony makes. 

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Switch is 1st

PS5 is 2nd

XSX is 3rd

 

Switch has more units out and you can play it at home or on the go and have games that people want to play. 

 

PS5... I don't have to say anything lol. 

 

Xbox has made GREAT moves. But hasn't done anything yet. There's no reason to be like "I NEED IT NOW!" 

 

I highly doubt that people are going to flock to XSX just cause there's rumors about the stores shutting down. Plus why would you flock to XSX just cause the legacy console stores are shutting down? All that effort to get those trophies... 

 

I would stay on PS5 (if I could afford it or even get my hands on one), but for older titles that aren't exclusives I would just play on Xbone or XSX. 

 

Edit: I forgot, Xbox did make great moves. But they fucked up and had to take a step back cause they tried raising prices during a goddamn pandemic where some people lost their jobs or are barely surviving. 

NOW THAT WAS A BIG FUCK UP, FOR SHAME!

SHAME SHAME SHAME!

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21 minutes ago, Cryogenicide_X said:

I didn't mean to cause argument or anything like that, wasn't my intention. Trust me, I'm one the biggest PlayStation fans you could know but I just get pissed off sometimes with these desicions Sony makes. 

No worries at all, I appreciate the discussion.

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16 minutes ago, ZitMeatloaf said:

No worries at all, I appreciate the discussion.

👍

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