Reversal: PS3, Vita, And PSP Stores To No Longer Close Permanently

[You]

1 minute ago, pinkrobot_pb said:

 

You forgot 4: Deleting all existing PS3 and Vita trophies from everyone's profiles to banish the memory of these blasphemous consoles forever.

 

OMG! The horrors continue.

[Lianco]

17 minutes ago, pinkrobot_pb said:

 

You forgot 4: Deleting all existing PS3 and Vita trophies from everyone's profiles to banish the memory of these blasphemous consoles forever.

5. Sony sends hitmen to everyone’s houses and destroys every console ever released before the PS4

[Arethien]

1 hour ago, enaysoft said:

 

Yeah, the 1, 2, 3 dickmove by Sony. "Downloads stop working" is no 2.

Wasn't step 1 making Vita and PS3 friends online status with what they're playing now invisible to PS4 and in the mobile app? Then cutting Vita and PS3 from web store alongside blocking any further inclusion of price drop sales of these games even if publishers/developers wanted to do it. And then omission of Vita and PS3 in 2020 Wrap-Up?

 

I also fear that Sony will cut out completely Vita and PS3 online features. I don't think they'll give long time warning before they do it. Although that doesn't really matter how long. Even if they gave one year in advance warning about cutting off trophy sync support it wouldn't save me, because I have over 100 games unplayed on Vita and PS3. Rough estimate of clearing them all at my current pace is 10 years.

Edited April 8, 2021 by Arethien

[You]

3 hours ago, Arethien said:

Wasn't step 1 making Vita and PS3 friends online status with what they're playing now invisible to PS4 and in the mobile app? Then cutting Vita and PS3 from web store alongside blocking any further inclusion of price drop sales of these games even if publishers/developers wanted to do it. And then omission of Vita and PS3 in 2020 Wrap-Up?

 

I also fear that Sony will cut out completely Vita and PS3 online features. I don't think they'll give long time warning before they do it. Although that doesn't really matter how long. Even if they gave one year in advance warning about cutting off trophy sync support it wouldn't save me, because I have over 100 games unplayed on Vita and PS3. Rough estimate of clearing them all at my current pace is 10 years.

 

I have about 15-20 games, even for me 1 year is not enough. I mean maybe when I was young and had all the freetime in the world then maybe. I still haven't done any panic buying yet, just want to wait it out and decide later. Try and make my backlog even less, if I can.

[Raidou Kuzunoha XIV]

Imagine if in say, 2035, Sony shuts down the PS4 and PS5 stores. Then someone, completely unaware of this, buys a pre-owned digital only PS5 in 2036, and can't do anything with it except maybe still play Astro's Playroom. But wait, it gets worse, the PS6 releases and it's digital only, and not backwards compatible at all. Better not be a late adopter, or else you won't be able to buy anything for it at all in 2050. And it won't be getting any sales at all starting from 2045, so you'll have to buy anything you still want at $60-100 each before the store closes down.

 

Ah, the digital future sure seems fun.

 

Jokes aside though, I'm now legitimately starting to wonder if I'll get all my PS4 games done before they shut down trophy syncing/patches for that system. Yeah, I know it's a long, long ways off, but I have literally like 400 PS4 games in my backlog and counting. I have about 15-20 PS3 and Vita games left combined and I foresee that still taking me another 2 years or so, even though I'm going to focus more on 'em now, I still won't be playing them exclusively (and even if I did, it would still take me about a year or so to finish them). Really wish Sony didn't have to keep springing these things out of no way on a few months notice constantly so this didn't have to be a more prominent worry in the back of my mind now.

[Lianco]

3 hours ago, SuperSmexy500 said:

Imagine if in say, 2035, Sony shuts down the PS4 and PS5 stores. Then someone, completely unaware of this, buys a pre-owned digital only PS5 in 2036, and can't do anything with it except maybe still play Astro's Playroom. But wait, it gets worse, the PS6 releases and it's digital only, and not backwards compatible at all. Better not be a late adopter, or else you won't be able to buy anything for it at all in 2050. And it won't be getting any sales at all starting from 2045, so you'll have to buy anything you still want at $60-100 each before the store closes down.

 

Ah, the digital future sure seems fun.

 

Jokes aside though, I'm now legitimately starting to wonder if I'll get all my PS4 games done before they shut down trophy syncing/patches for that system. Yeah, I know it's a long, long ways off, but I have literally like 400 PS4 games in my backlog and counting. I have about 15-20 PS3 and Vita games left combined and I foresee that still taking me another 2 years or so, even though I'm going to focus more on 'em now, I still won't be playing them exclusively (and even if I did, it would still take me about a year or so to finish them). Really wish Sony didn't have to keep springing these things out of no way on a few months notice constantly so this didn't have to be a more prominent worry in the back of my mind now.

I would hope by that point game streaming would have gotten to a much better place on PS systems like it is currently on Xbox. I've never liked owning digital content. I buy physical and I don't mind subscribing to a service as I think value for money vs amount of games, even on PSNow right now, is worth it. It has .detuned and Linger in Shadows on there! That shocked me! All the stuff I was gonna panic buy on the PS3 is on PSNow and I don't mind just getting the trophy list completed and then never playing it again. I replay a lot that I own but there's others that I can't see myself playing again in the next 5 years but also do not want to sell because I bought it full price/it was a gift. Example, I didn't like the first Last of Us but I do want to play the second game. I don't see myself playing it twice, so I think I'll rent it or buy it pre-owned. Doesn't really seem like something you'd play twice given the dark tone that it seems to have, so I think I'd be done with it after that/doing the hardened trophy list. I say this while also having 2000 hours on MGSV across 3 platforms. I've also tried to limit what I own over the years. I only have 100+ things on my profile and that's since 2014 and that's basically everything I own besides some stuff friends lent to me which takes about 15% I'd say.

 

I was told from a young age the downsides of owning digital content and had also experienced losing things. I lost Sonic X on iTunes one day in 2008, which was a £72 purchase, and it just never came back and Apple support didn't help. So in the long run I've only ever bought two handfuls of digital games. Things that are digital only and DLC don't bother me as much but actual games, yeah. I've made a word document of what I own so I don't lose it. May sound OCD but with my physical games I can just look at my shelf and see them, digital? Not as easy to keep track, especially over various systems. This is why I think Steam is great in that aspect because something you bought in 2007 is still there with something you bought last week. Too bad I had a MAC back in those days. I aim to rebuy all the digital stuff I own.

 

Some people don't care and that's on them, but for me; seeing how Sony is treating their old digital content whilst having a system that is solely digital would ward me off big time. I'm honestly not interested in a PS5 right now and I didn't buy a PS4 until 2016 because I was still on my PS3 enjoying that. And I just replayed Monsters Inc on the PS1, of all things, and had a nostalgic blast. And if gaming ever went to digital only, I wouldn't have an issue calling it a day on video games.

[Sir_TyroneOBE]

You're going to catch Sony employees collecting all the ps3s and vitas they can and burning them all in a pile.(Long live the digital regime)

[HoorayForTyler]

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Edited April 9, 2021 by HoorayForTyler
Question answered.

[AJ_Radio]

10 hours ago, enaysoft said:

 

I have about 15-20 games, even for me 1 year is not enough. I mean maybe when I was young and had all the freetime in the world then maybe. I still haven't done any panic buying yet, just want to wait it out and decide later. Try and make my backlog even less, if I can.

 

I'm in the same boat.

 

I'm not a college kid anymore and being in my 30s now I have had to do more work, look after my niece and nephew, and recently have been looking over a career change. Despite this, I bought Duke Nukem Forever with the Dr Proton DLC and Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance with all DLC. I just have Enslaved: Odyssey to the West and Dante's Inferno left to buy, because I know that DLC will NOT be available after the store closure.

 

For PSN only games, I have Shatter, Jet Set Radio, Knytt Underground and Rayman 3 HD left to buy.

 

Sadly, I'm going to have to skip Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 1 & 2 and Star Wars: The Force Unleashed 1 & 2 as I'm not going to have the time to get around to those games. So they are completely crossed off. Then there's stuff like X-Men: Destiny, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Shadows of the Damned, Lollipop Chainsaw and Splatterhouse which all have just a physical release. Since the store closure announcement all of these games have skyrocketed in price.

 

Why should I spend an arm and a leg for games that are over a decade old? Especially when I can buy plenty of PS4 games for well under $10?

 

You can't do everything. Even as a trophy hunter you have to make amends and sacrifice a lot.

 

The PS Vita in contrast isn't looking as grim for me. Just bought The Hungry Horde and Muramasa Rebirth for under $50 combined. Just have Jet Set Radio left to get.

 

The fact that older games on older systems are now costing more money than the newer stuff on PS4/PS5 is a real insult and slap in the face to anyone who cares about preservation and legacy consoles.

 

7 hours ago, SuperSmexy500 said:

Imagine if in say, 2035, Sony shuts down the PS4 and PS5 stores. Then someone, completely unaware of this, buys a pre-owned digital only PS5 in 2036, and can't do anything with it except maybe still play Astro's Playroom. But wait, it gets worse, the PS6 releases and it's digital only, and not backwards compatible at all. Better not be a late adopter, or else you won't be able to buy anything for it at all in 2050. And it won't be getting any sales at all starting from 2045, so you'll have to buy anything you still want at $60-100 each before the store closes down.

 

Ah, the digital future sure seems fun.

 

Jokes aside though, I'm now legitimately starting to wonder if I'll get all my PS4 games done before they shut down trophy syncing/patches for that system. Yeah, I know it's a long, long ways off, but I have literally like 400 PS4 games in my backlog and counting. I have about 15-20 PS3 and Vita games left combined and I foresee that still taking me another 2 years or so, even though I'm going to focus more on 'em now, I still won't be playing them exclusively (and even if I did, it would still take me about a year or so to finish them). Really wish Sony didn't have to keep springing these things out of no way on a few months notice constantly so this didn't have to be a more prominent worry in the back of my mind now.

 

Pretty soon you're not going to be able to buy digital only titles anymore. I imagine in due time these companies are going to force you to play these games via livestream only. PS Now is already doing this. So you're going to be at the whims of a glorified rental service (which I will state that digital only games are already rental services) even more so than before.

 

It's a shitshow. It's funny how when we were all kids, we only had to worry about whether the video rental store or Best Buy retail store was going to have a physical copy of the game we wanted. Now we have to worry about delistings, which can happen at ANY time and getting locked out of digital content that you yourself paid money for.

 

Sony eat your heart out.

[You]

9 minutes ago, AJ_Radio said:

Then there's stuff like X-Men: Destiny, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Shadows of the Damned, Lollipop Chainsaw and Splatterhouse which all have just a physical release.

 

Heh, I'd give you my Lollypop Chainsaw, I didn't really like the game all that much.

 

Unfortunately it has a shitty online leaderboard trophy where you need to complete the game first, then complete the time attack mode on every level and then you can upload to the online server (god knows who owns that server) That's another game that despite being physical, it's gonna be an unobtainable platinum sometime in the near future even though it's a completely offline game.

 

https://psnprofiles.com/trophy/1475-lollipop-chainsaw/18-international-zombie-hunter

[mekktor]

Quote

You will still be able to re-download and play game titles you have claimed through PlayStation®Plus as long as you remain a member of the service.

 

Any thoughts on whether letting your PS+ subscription run out and then later resubscribing would still add your PS+ games back into your download list? I can't tell with the language they used here: "as long as you remain", not "as long as you are an active subscriber of". Remain is a strong word...

 

I want to think that this whole change is specifically about removing the functionality of purchasing games through the store, and that any other processes that add games to your download list (like redeeming codes, purchasing cross-buy on PS4, resubsribing to PS+) will continue to do so after they have closed the store. But am I just being too optimistic about this? It would be terrible if even the slightest lapse in your subscription just permanently removed your years long collection of PS+ games.

[Lance_87]

7 hours ago, mekktor said:

 

Any thoughts on whether letting your PS+ subscription run out and then later resubscribing would still add your PS+ games back into your download list? I can't tell with the language they used here: "as long as you remain", not "as long as you are an active subscriber of". Remain is a strong word...

 

I want to think that this whole change is specifically about removing the functionality of purchasing games through the store, and that any other processes that add games to your download list (like redeeming codes, purchasing cross-buy on PS4, resubsribing to PS+) will continue to do so after they have closed the store. But am I just being too optimistic about this? It would be terrible if even the slightest lapse in your subscription just permanently removed your years long collection of PS+ games.

 

PS+ games will always be on your account, just "hidden" when the subscription runs out. They have already confirmed that redeeming will still work, and you could always resubscribe through other means (web browser, PS4, PS5, etc.) anyway.

Edited April 9, 2021 by Lance_87

[AlphaExGAT]

This new administration(Jim's) is quite something. I mean that in a negative way.

[Speling_Expirt]

I know it's pretty much old news now but I still can't believe how Sony are drowning their older platforms and digital content. 

 

It doesn't sit right at all and the worst thing is, I don't even think they realise how many people they've made get their backs up.

 

Push people too hard and there ARE other options. Yes, I get achievements aren't exactly trophies but if Sony continue then I feel Xbox will be the ship communities like ours will jump to.

[Lianco]

10 hours ago, enaysoft said:

 

Heh, I'd give you my Lollypop Chainsaw, I didn't really like the game all that much.

 

Unfortunately it has a shitty online leaderboard trophy where you need to complete the game first, then complete the time attack mode on every level and then you can upload to the online server (god knows who owns that server) That's another game that despite being physical, it's gonna be an unobtainable platinum sometime in the near future even though it's a completely offline game.

 

https://psnprofiles.com/trophy/1475-lollipop-chainsaw/18-international-zombie-hunter

I bought it because of Suda51 but I played the game over and over and I don’t remember it being too long. Wish there was a boss rush option, though. The trophy about getting up the building without being hit was difficult because of how random the attacks are. Was one of the only games I ever 100%’d on the 360 back in the day.

[mekktor]

59 minutes ago, Lance_87 said:

PS+ games will always be on your account, just "hidden" when the subscription runs out.

 

When you resubscribe to PS+, the purchase date of your PS+ games is set to the date you resubscribed. Who knows what's going on in their system to make it appear like that, and if closing the store will affect it... I was hoping the language in their notice would be clearer about it, and honestly it's pointless even trying to ask support for clarification on things like this, so unless there's some more official info about it, I guess we will have to wait and see.

[Yuber6969]

On 08/04/2021 at 2:49 AM, Lem-77 said:

http://chng.it/nxcPxyHGHW

 

I just wanted to let everybody know, that the petition that was posted here earlier in this topic, has now reached at least 1000 signatures as of this time. Realistically I am aware that the chances for it to succeed are all over the place. I still like for some sort of chance or something along those lines to happen, to show Sony that they shouldn't do this. So hopefully the petition keeps growing in general and/or other things occur before this Summer, for some sort of reversal.

 

Thanks for sharing this. I sent it to all of my friends (even the ones who aren't gamers lol).

[tony_snake_24]

On 8/4/2021 at 7:49 AM, Lem-77 said:

http://chng.it/nxcPxyHGHW

 

I just wanted to let everybody know, that the petition that was posted here earlier in this topic, has now reached at least 1000 signatures as of this time. Realistically I am aware that the chances for it to succeed are all over the place. I still like for some sort of chance or something along those lines to happen, to show Sony that they shouldn't do this. So hopefully the petition keeps growing in general and/or other things occur before this Summer, for some sort of reversal.

I just signed the petition. At least we have to try. 

 

Maybe we can try to pressure on twitter, or even contact there whichever association runs the film preservation project. These things will probably be ignored, but it's worth a shot.

[KingSkovald]

It's so funny to remember all the bs Sony defenders posted in this thread.
And here comes console market growth "potential": Sony Hiring For Head Of Mobile To Bring PlayStation Studios IP To Phones - PlayStation Universe (psu.com)

Edited April 10, 2021 by KingSkovald

[POEman553]

I've bought quite a few things this morning (mainly DLC including the character DLC for Disgaea D2 US) and it seems like the PlayStation Store crashes my PS3 every time I use it. One of my most recent purchases hasn't shown up in the download list yet and I can't re-add the items to my cart.  I don't remember it being this bad -- I imagine it'll be like this between now and the shutdown on July 2.

 

EDIT: I was able to get the purchased items to appear in my download list now. I did 'Restore Licenses' on my PS4 and everything I purchased on PS3 appeared.

Edited April 10, 2021 by POEman553

[pavelbagirov]

1 minute ago, POEman553 said:

I've bought quite a few things this morning (mainly DLC including the character DLC for Disgaea D2 US) and it seems like the PlayStation Store crashes my PS3 every time I use it. I don't remember it being this bad -- I imagine it'll be like this between now and the shutdown on July 2.

This PS4 type store on PS3 always was garbage. Previous native ps3 store was ultra fast. Sony is terrible like always in every aspect 

[KingSkovald]

The most embarrassing part is not even the closure itself, it's the way how they are doing it: PS3 store is a total mess since November when they did some changes in their infrastructure when they launched new web store (not like PS3 store was amazing before).

And what prevented them to keep that workaround to access the old web store for a bit longer and shut it down together with PS3 store so people could at least buy what they wanted properly one last time without suffering in glitched PS3 store. As if Jim Ryan tells us "Eat my shit, lads!".

[Sir_TyroneOBE]

6 hours ago, pavelbagirov said:

This PS4 type store on PS3 always was garbage. Previous native ps3 store was ultra fast. Sony is terrible like always in every aspect 

But that's what they wanted even when the new PS3 store launched people complained about its optimization on PS3 they have been pushing this for a while I mean they don't want to give users more reasons to stay on this platform.

[tony_snake_24]

If only they gave a 1 year notice or closed the stores 1 year MINIMUM after the announcement, I would be able to buy everything comfortably. 3 months in the middle of a pandemic, for something this big that shouldn't even happen at all without alternatives like BC. I'm so pissed off. Bad news after bad news with Sony in the recent years.

[ConAir]

Too bad the rumour was true. Some people fear that online functionality will also change with the stores closing. I wondered if there is a list of Vita games or a forumtopic that have one or more online Trophies. Otherwise we might need one before August.