DEI2EK Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Valyrious said: I agree with this opinion. Sorry, not sorry. For those that are upset by this move, please vote with your wallet and don't buy it. I for one, will be buying it because I want it, and it's one of my favourite games of all time. Do I think that the remake was NECESSARY? No. Do I welcome it? Absolutely. That's all it boils down to. You either want it or you don't. But the sheer amount of anger that this remake has sparked is absurd. Why did they make everyone shorter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyrious Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, DEI2EK said: Why did they make everyone shorter Assuming you're serious... angles, camera views, perspective can greatly change height in cinema. I have to think you're joking, but just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggypossum Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Stan Lee said: I believe that Ellie had a different face model for the 2nd game than the 1st so they've used the newer one which brings about some differences- but I'm not 100% sure on that so anyone please correct me if I'm wrong abut that. Voice and motion capture - Ashley Johnson, TLOU & TLOU II both Quote In a May interview with IGN, creative director Neil Druckmann noted that the team "decided to modify Ellie's model to better reflect [actress] Ashley [Johnson]'s personality, and also resemble a slightly younger teen more fitting to the story," after a few months of development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, ziggypossum said: Voice and motion capture - Ashley Johnson, TLOU & TLOU II both Yes I know this but Ellie looks nothing like Ashley, they used somebody else as a character model and matched Ashley's performance with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pray_4_the_End Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) On 6/9/2022 at 9:49 PM, Stan Lee said: Yes I know this but Ellie looks nothing like Ashley, they used somebody else as a character model and matched Ashley's performance with them. At the time when TLOU was first being developed Naughty Dog had used Elliot Page's likeness for Ellie almost to a tee without their consent. That was also around the time "Beyond Two Souls" was dropping and they were rightfully pissed about it. So ND ended up making Ellie look a lot more like Ashley and said that it was all a "coincidence" lol. Might not be 100% accurate but I'm pretty sure it was something along those lines that happened. Edited June 11, 2022 by Stevieboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid-Fisch Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) To me this is way more a remaster of a remaster than a remake. Naughty Dog basically did what Rockstar did with GTAV here. Still, TLOU is a fantastic game and Part 1 will look gorgeous. Still won't buy it since this 100% will be part of ps+ premium within 2 years after it's release, so I'll play it when it's on there. Never understood the hate for the MP btw. Bit disappointing it's no more part of the game. Edited June 9, 2022 by Solid-Fisch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) On 6/9/2022 at 9:58 PM, Pray_4_the_End said: At the time when TLOU was first being developed Naughty Dog had used Elliot Page's likeness for Ellie almost to a tee without their consent. That was also around the time "Beyond Two Souls" was dropping and they were rightfully pissed about it. So ND ended up making Ellie look a lot more like Ashley and said that it was all a "coincidence" lol. Might not be 100% accurate but I'm pretty sure it was something along those lines that happened. I don't think it was ever confirmed that they used Page (honestly I don't really see the resemblance myself) but the fact that they altered her appearance could be indicative of that, I suppose Edited June 11, 2022 by Stevieboy clean up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidou Kuzunoha XIV Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said: Someone made a comparison video. Think this is a case of "it looked better in my memory", because I honestly didn't see a ton of difference in the new trailer until I saw this comparison video. Thanks for posting it, probably wouldn't have been something I'd bothered to look up myself otherwise. My feelings on it remain the same nonetheless. I'll buy it eventually when it's cheaper, I'm in no rush to replay it any time soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Alchemist Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 29 minutes ago, Stan Lee said: Too right man. Discourse around what is supposed to be a fun hobby has seriously become exhausting and unenjoyable. I don't want an echo chamber where everyone agrees with me on everything but I swear I teach children who are far more mature than some of the folks commenting here. What are they even angry about? They don't even seem to know themselves. I don't want to derail the thread, but I couldn't agree more. The general gaming sphere has become, for me at least, almost unbearable for the past couple of years and it only seems to be getting worse by the day. This is my most passionate hobby, it's something I've adored since I was a little boy, and I find myself becoming more and more detached from it all. It's almost as if there is a competition going on to see who can give less of a fuck. And I find this type of attitude in virtually everything nowadays but it's taken to a totally new level in gaming. Between dealing with console warriors, gaming "journalists" stoking the flames every chance they get, and echo chambers of extreme hate, the gaming landscape has turned into a giant circle jerk. It's cool to hate absolutely everything now. It's like nobody can find anything positive or anything to care about anymore. It's just exhausting. I've personally had to curate my own social media feeds far more carefully than I ever had to before. I've had to unfollow gaming topics because the stuff I get suggested is cancer. I can't click on any gaming news article or social media post without being bombarded with toxic and childish behavior. Gaming was never this bad in the past, and that's saying something because we've had some dark days. I thought the wider gaming community had matured and moved past a lot of these things, but clearly not because it's worse than ever before. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MarcusPunisher Posted June 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2022 The real reason why this game is being remade ? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipper321 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Valyrious said: Why do people always deal in two extremes? You're either a commercial fanboy that will gobble down anything that is fed to you without complaint or ask questions/show even a modicum of doubt, or you're an extremist that squeals at the top of your lungs that the company is greedy for charging full price for a game you've already played. No middle ground. Extremist mentality is comical, petty, and kinda small brained. I haven't played the last of us, and never intend to. I appreciate the sneeding over a six second clip, though. Edited June 9, 2022 by shipper321 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerplookniac Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 While I find it funny that this is a remake of a game not even a decade old (that was already remastered), I admit that I am intrigued and know I will get this at some point. I love TLOU and want to experience a native PS5 build of the game with the various improvements they are implementing. However, I don’t know if I’m eager enough to get it at launch for $70. That said, I’m a sucker for steelbooks and am resisting that from swaying me to drop $100 on the Firefly edition haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Day 1. Then again, im pretty wealthy so i buy everything at launch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggypossum Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, The Alchemist said: It's cool to hate absolutely everything now. It's like nobody can find anything positive or anything to care about anymore. O tempora, o mores That's why I never read reviews, twitter and so on I just don't give a flying fuck what other people say You wanna play the game you like - just play it The world went mad a long time ago and I don't care anymore, I'm too old for this shit 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavelbagirov Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Same game from 2013 just give 80€ again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 It’s just so frustrating that the only audience for this remake is people who already paid for it who are being forced to pay for it again!!! When will justice be served?!?! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDGES Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, TalalHmd said: This is one of the most ridiculous PR “stories” out there. they make it sound like this was made by *chance*. like a dev stumbled on a keyboard and remade TLoU lol also how does a corporate team gets ‘distracted’, I’d say the only distraction was an order from the heads to remake TLoU instead of Uncharted because it would sell more where did you get "distracted" from? I said disbanded, and it's not a PR "story", lots of people left their jobs over it, that's how we found out about it Edited June 9, 2022 by The Investigator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephrese Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) Definitely think that $70 for what appears to be a faithful remake - as opposed to a reimagining, like FFVII or the recent RE remakes - is way too much, otherwise it looks great. Still need to finish the PS4 remaster myself first. lol I admittedly think it's a fun game, albeit - so far, at least - not nearly as great as it's been made out to be. Will probably still end up getting this when it's dropped to a more reasonable price - around ~$40 -, and perhaps after I've played Part II and acquired a PS5 as well. lmao Edited June 9, 2022 by Zephrese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune2303 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) "Looks fine" that about sums up my initial thoughts for this reveal. A far as I could tell the "new" features shown off in the reveal felt like: Better lighting, more "detailed environment" (basically more clutter everywhere: grass, bushes, rain puddles etc.) and new facial models for everyone. I assume the gameplay has been updated to Last of us part 2 on top of this so more or less dedicated jump button, prone, smarter ai and more in depth animations when upgrading weapons. For a "faithful remake" I suppose this isn't so bad considering there is only so much you can change for that title to remain true ... but um .. I don't know I guess my feelings on it are just sort of ehh? Don't get me wrong I absolutely love the original Last of Us and I've played through both the original game and remaster many times .. the thing is .. I can't keep rationalising buying the same damn game over and over again (Yes Todd Howard and R* this also concerns your games). Would it be nice to go for another round with more stunning visuals. Sure. Problem is "better visuals" would essentially be the only thing I'd be paying for. No new story (While the story is fantastic I could basically run you through it scene by scene at this point, heck probably recite a lot of the manuscript too), and let's face it basically the same gameplay. In my humble opinion "older" versions really don't look that bad even to this day and the ps4 version already runs at 60 fps (doubt this new version will run any higher than that) so while eye candy is great and all ... its just not worth the money for now. Won't say I'll never pick this up but in all honesty it would probably have to be like 60-70%+ discounted for me to even consider it at this point All in all it doesn't look bad (except the box art that looks pretty awful) just feels like Naughty Dog had other games that were more deserving of remakes (Jak and Daxter games, Uncharted 1 etc.) Edited June 9, 2022 by Rune2303 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaRejectz Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 People will eat this up. While I don’t have an issue with people enjoying it, I do however have an issue with truckloads of people spending $70+ on a remake of a 2013 game that had already been Remastered and had no major issues. Including early game unlocks and whatnot for pre-ordering, really? the story is the same, the dialogue is the same, the environments are the same, it’s a $70 visual overhaul. This isn’t a 2-3+ decade old game that wasn’t playable natively on PS4/5. It is. Whatever, I’ll keep buying games and hope that Sony doesn’t continue selling games for $70+ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elvick_ Posted June 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Valyrious said: I agree with this opinion. Sorry, not sorry. For those that are upset by this move, please vote with your wallet and don't buy it. I for one, will be buying it because I want it, and it's one of my favourite games of all time. Do I think that the remake was NECESSARY? No. Do I welcome it? Absolutely. That's all it boils down to. You either want it or you don't. But the sheer amount of anger that this remake has sparked is absurd. Boo hoo people don't like a product by a corporation. Who cares if people don't like it? Yevon people need to accept different opinions and stop being so fucking defensive and insecure over theirs. And preemptive "sorry not sorry" nonsense is defensive and blares "I'm very insecure" in your opinion. You're already addressing disagreement when you could've just said you're excited and ignored those who think it's a useless cashgrab [which it objectively is]. Good for you. @topic ; looks terrible. Enhance the Uncanny Valley! The original characters look better to me because there's actual art design to them and the new ones seem more like they're just trying to mirror how the actors look to 'better' fit the performance capture. U4 looks goofy as all hell because of that crap. Now this will too. And lol at adding "Part 1" as if it was an unfinished game open for a sequel. It was a game that ended with a thought provoking ending, and you decided to reopen it just to shit on the original and it's characters, that's it. You could've had all new characters detached and it would'be been fine, but Neil was seething over Bruce not letting him make TLoU terrible so now he has the chance to right those wrongs too. I'd buy the Remaster on PC, but this "Part 1" farce can suck it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefMichigan Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 The Good -They don't seem to be changing the story or characters. -The gameplay tweaks seem very modest, and mostly QOL/accessibility. -Coming to PC. The Bad -$70?! You're gonna release a PS5 remaster of a PS4 remaster of a PS3 game and charge that price?! This game should be $50-$60 tops. $40 would probably make the most sense. By time I want to replay TLOU, this game will probably not be full price anymore. I don't even have a PS5 yet, and probably won't until 2023. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkshepherd Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Stinks of safe money and lack of ideas if you ask me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyrious Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiefMichigan said: The Good -They don't seem to be changing the story or characters. -The gameplay tweaks seem very modest, and mostly QOL/accessibility. -Coming to PC. The Bad -$70?! You're gonna release a PS5 remaster of a PS4 remaster of a PS3 game and charge that price?! This game should be $50-$60 tops. $40 would probably make the most sense. By time I want to replay TLOU, this game will probably not be full price anymore. I don't even have a PS5 yet, and probably won't until 2023. I didn't think about that. I do think they're going to change one character, for sure. Remember how at the end of The Last of Us (the original), the doctor that [redacted due to spoilers, I think anybody that has played the original game knows who I am talking about] was dark skinned? Then, Naughty Dog changed him to a Caucasian man and made him the father of a certain popular (read: hated) character in the sequel? I could absolutely see ND changing that character to his updated TLOUPII model. The funny thing? People will still bitch. Just like they bitched when the character was changed in TLOUPII. Consistency be damned. People need to complain about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 the most unnecessary remake in history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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