Downgrade to Version 1.03 possible

[chiba0022]

These are the download links for the 1.03 patch, which should make the When I'm With You trophy for completing all co-op levels on Nightmare difficulty easier. (Downgrading to 1.00 doesn't work because of the Bethesda login requirement). To install, just follow this guide:

And replace the link for the json file with the appropriate one for your region.

1.03 (US):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15595_00/4/f_f927be1d9d6d8ea28bfea586b3dd6870f9152c11de6b9b6264e53564b87d0ba9/f/UP1003-CUSA15595_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0103-V0100.json

1.03 (EU):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15566_00/4/f_938ecea0568a24dc8eecd5a3300930c8cf26e1602f43fd19fe9573909439dbbb/f/EP1003-CUSA15566_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0103-V0100.json

 

Here are the links to all the other versions except 1.05 in case anyone is interested in trying them.

Spoiler

1.01 (US):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15595_00/1/f_1b7ced674dd5123b88a17b0da27c4d0775df46774674e71736732b14562b9b18/f/UP1003-CUSA15595_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0101-V0100.json

1.01 (EU):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15566_00/1/f_43643d8dfebebf888bbb01623eb5b52f1c69f324db17e4fa3426ddcd6cc2e3f9/f/EP1003-CUSA15566_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0101-V0100.json

1.02 (US):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15595_00/3/f_a4ab12740412d6ee651c09c736b66b5bc2f567b34c6fe7cea9cf349dbb0da23f/f/UP1003-CUSA15595_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0102-V0100.json

1.02 (EU):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15566_00/3/f_61e020edd7de35bef6b09ab1f230d43ab7ea957e7d48837e2adb06328827b959/f/EP1003-CUSA15566_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0102-V0100.json

1.04 (US):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15595_00/6/f_17bd90bbe2378de7696f0a4b0dda3be9d2e8387f2eae794c3253a5b1422dcf64/f/UP1003-CUSA15595_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0104-V0100.json

1.04 (EU):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15566_00/6/f_8c50b6150e4441a87bf94f386cbcf1d224d694d7e8fe964ab795b6628b7c101d/f/EP1003-CUSA15566_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0104-V0100.json

1.06 (US):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15595_00/8/f_dc6d76d969710a5ecb802735ed5f6b8e2151cc04301518fe75372d4f56604304/f/UP1003-CUSA15595_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0106-V0100.json

1.06 (EU):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15566_00/8/f_58420ce0ff858d7a29db6502dbd39ad11c60ce6651df5ddeb1db46f3d15d82ad/f/EP1003-CUSA15566_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0106-V0100.json

1.07 (US):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15595_00/9/f_5e420a32041497b864b75bcfa27dbaa87206860b61cf57d0fca4cdba8fa5ef4f/f/UP1003-CUSA15595_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0107-V0100.json

1.07 (EU):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15566_00/9/f_c423b6412cd684ae9535df688e3cd503c3fce6205ef89fe7e419bccf49381603/f/EP1003-CUSA15566_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0107-V0100.json

1.08 (US):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15595_00/10/f_40e767c156b91d2d1ed23c54560bf8edf3335db4970d3a368d3c028b59042b05/f/UP1003-CUSA15595_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0108-V0100.json

1.08 (EU):

http://gs2.ww.prod.dl.playstation.net/gs2/ppkgo/prod/CUSA15566_00/10/f_05454d80cfa4c7ee466246cb2b29da93315a0930a9a29e8b06c18d1aa08de7fd/f/EP1003-CUSA15566_00-DOOMTWO199400000-A0108-V0100.json

 

[BearyDeadly]

I can confirm this works! Thanks for the tip!

Edited June 6, 2021 by BearyDeadly
figured it out

[Thebadskullteen]

How did you find these? I want to try this with the original Doom.

[Rebourne07]

What about being on patch 1.03 makes it easier to do the nightmare coop trophy?

[Rick_Sanchez]

5 minutes ago, Rebourne07 said:

What about being on patch 1.03 makes it easier to do the nightmare coop trophy?

iirc enemies aren't moving fast af like it does on current patch.

 

I think that's the reason.

[BOOTP]

5 hours ago, Rebourne07 said:

What about being on patch 1.03 makes it easier to do the nightmare coop trophy?

 

Someone posted a video showing the difference (Doom 1 but same thing).

 

 

Unfortunately the weapon switching sucks in v1.03 as is only cyclic.

Edited September 4, 2021 by BOOTP

[Rebourne07]

6 hours ago, BOOTP said:

 

Someone posted a video showing the difference (Doom 1 but same thing).

 

 

Unfortunately the weapon switching sucks in v1.03 as is only cyclic.

Oh wow! Why would they crank up the speed like that!?

[BOOTP]

2 hours ago, Rebourne07 said:

Oh wow! Why would they crank up the speed like that!?

 

That's the correct speed in Nightmare from the original PC version, so it should of been like that from the start. I wouldn't have minded as much if I could of used a keyboard and mouse!

 

However, the fact is the trophy was made (and presumably tested) with the slower speed version in mind, so the same trophy now becomes almost impossible - so downgrading to v1.03 is the best approach.

[UlvenFenrir]

14 hours ago, Rebourne07 said:

What about being on patch 1.03 makes it easier to do the nightmare coop trophy?

Yes but it doesnt make the platinum easy, just easier than what it currently is. I can imagine with fast enemies, doom 2 might as well be on a 10/10 and without, 9/10.

 

Im pretty sure i practiced levels 27-29 (27 and 28 being the easier ones and 29 being the platinum breaker for many) for 10-15 hours. That was before the game was patched to match the pc version.

[scFlinT-us]

On 9/4/2021 at 7:54 PM, BOOTP said:

I wouldn't have minded as much if I could of used a keyboard and mouse!

But you can - the game supports keyboard and mouse.

[Monsieur_Daito]

I want to downgrade my game, but before attempting that I have a question, will I have to start over or can I continue with my current progress? So far I've made it to level 28.

[ArmoredSnowman]

On 9/3/2021 at 10:19 PM, Thebadskullteen said:

How did you find these? I want to try this with the original Doom.

They would've used orbispatches

[upfront_ladder9]

13 hours ago, Monsieur_Daito said:

I want to downgrade my game, but before attempting that I have a question, will I have to start over or can I continue with my current progress? So far I've made it to level 28.

I am not sure, maybe you can save your data in a usb or ps plus cloud just in case.

I am thinking about starting Doom 2 now, just got platinum for Doom 1 in current update. It was pretty brutal but doable, followed video guides from Decino to learn its strategies. I keep reading that Doom 2 nightmare is almost impossible in current update... So you made it to lvl 28, thats almost the whole game right? There are 30 maps in Doom 2 if I am not mistaken. Do you think you can do it in current update?

[Monsieur_Daito]

15 hours ago, upfront_ladder9 said:

I am not sure, maybe you can save your data in a usb or ps plus cloud just in case.

I am thinking about starting Doom 2 now, just got platinum for Doom 1 in current update. It was pretty brutal but doable, followed video guides from Decino to learn its strategies. I keep reading that Doom 2 nightmare is almost impossible in current update... So you made it to lvl 28, thats almost the whole game right? There are 30 maps in Doom 2 if I am not mistaken. Do you think you can do it in current update?

I think I can with the current update, just need to practice a whole lot. To be honest, levels 17, 20, 22, and 24 felt more impossible as they were extremely random and broken. Level 29 just requires an inhumane level of practice, that's why I want to downgrade my game.

[Mellenthin]

As I've got around 70 hours in Doom 2 so far on most patches, I can vouch for that playing on 1.03 compared to the current is a huge difference - particularly so when playing solo.

 

You can skip downgrading if you'd like to show off, but if you prefer to save time and energy, and if you can't find a partner to help, downgrading is the way to go.

[upfront_ladder9]

4 hours ago, Mellenthin said:

As I've got around 70 hours in Doom 2 so far on most patches, I can vouch for that playing on 1.03 compared to the current is a huge difference - particularly so when playing solo.

 

You can skip downgrading if you'd like to show off, but if you prefer to save time and energy, and if you can't find a partner to help, downgrading is the way to go.

Is it easy to downgrade? It seems complicated from what I read

[Monsieur_Daito]

4 hours ago, upfront_ladder9 said:

Is it easy to downgrade? It seems complicated from what I read

It actually is easy, I managed to do it but for some reason can't play because the game keeps telling me "In order to play online you need to update, UPDATE NOW!" but I used a differed tutorial. I used this tutorial, I felt that even though they are practically the same thing, this one is worded a bit simpler: 

 

[Mellenthin]

14 hours ago, upfront_ladder9 said:

Is it easy to downgrade? It seems complicated from what I read

It's not complicated at all and the step-by-step guides here even provide pictures so you can compare your input.

 

In case you're using Charles, the only small but irritating issue that you might come across with this process is if you for whatever reason decide to repeat the procedure of downgrading after performing a quick format. What will happen is the downgrade now won't work, the only solution being a full format.

 

I believe the process of downgrading somehow glitches the OS and subsequent downgrading won't work. I reckon most people only do this once although I think it's good to know beforehand as I initially freaked out and thought I had compromised my account and console.

[AJ_Radio]

On 2/2/2022 at 4:46 PM, Monsieur_Daito said:

It actually is easy, I managed to do it but for some reason can't play because the game keeps telling me "In order to play online you need to update, UPDATE NOW!" but I used a differed tutorial. I used this tutorial, I felt that even though they are practically the same thing, this one is worded a bit simpler: 

 

 

I've done this for some games like Surgeon Simulator and others, so this is a great way to downgrade if some trophies are giving you trouble due to an update patch.

 

But for DOOM 2 you just get hit with the Bethesda.net screen. It's a complete pain in the ass to try to bypass it, so I given up on it as putting it this much work for one trophy just isn't worth the frustration.

 

I don't know how people are earning this trophy, but I reckon they are using Share Play and having their buddies pick up another controller, since DOOM 2 doesn't have actual multiplayer co-op.

 

On 2/3/2022 at 2:34 AM, Mellenthin said:

It's not complicated at all and the step-by-step guides here even provide pictures so you can compare your input.

 

In case you're using Charles, the only small but irritating issue that you might come across with this process is if you for whatever reason decide to repeat the procedure of downgrading after performing a quick format. What will happen is the downgrade now won't work, the only solution being a full format.

 

I believe the process of downgrading somehow glitches the OS and subsequent downgrading won't work. I reckon most people only do this once although I think it's good to know beforehand as I initially freaked out and thought I had compromised my account and console.

 

Charles works well if you know how to use it. I just want to downgrade to version 1.03 without any issues.

[EGZAM]

I have yet to play this game.
If I downgrade, what is the plat difficulty level ? 

[speedomer]

On 11.02.2022 at 9:33 AM, AJ_Radio said:

 

I've done this for some games like Surgeon Simulator and others, so this is a great way to downgrade if some trophies are giving you trouble due to an update patch.

 

But for DOOM 2 you just get hit with the Bethesda.net screen. It's a complete pain in the ass to try to bypass it, so I given up on it as putting it this much work for one trophy just isn't worth the frustration.

 

This is not impossible on 1.08 but whoever want to try this game, i drop some knowledge here.

 

1. Enter the game normally with lastest patch (1.08) , skip the Bethesda screen by loggin in (you will see it when accepting rewards for Doom Eternal)

2. If you are online you will see a green dot next to Bethesda.net on the main menu

3. Quit and delete the game but keep the save file

4. Downgrade the game whatever version you like and enter the game you will able to skip the Bethesda screen

Bonus Knowledge: Previous versions may be slightly comfortable but this won't reduce the pain you are going to face, this game won't turning into walk in the park even if 1.00 version.I completed so many hard games but this was brutal by pushing your patience. The problem is respawning monsters not their movement speed. Also in 1.00 there is no shortcut to select weapons with d-pad, you need to scrool all the way with L1 and R1 and this means a big negative in ongoing battle. Long story short, anyone gonna try this need to be very patient and try a lot because your not actually going to fight with demons whether the version is , you just clear the run path by killing some of them.

[kapomimo903]

On 11/2/2022 at 4:18 PM, EGZAM said:

I have yet to play this game.
If I downgrade, what is the plat difficulty level ? 

9/10 downgrade and 10/10 without downgrade probably

[Wild-Arms-R]

On 2/11/2022 at 10:18 AM, EGZAM said:

I have yet to play this game.
If I downgrade, what is the plat difficulty level ? 

 

On 2/24/2022 at 4:58 PM, kapomimo903 said:

9/10 downgrade and 10/10 without downgrade probably

I’d say with the latest patched it’s a 9/10, the game isn’t that difficult if you play on the lowest setting until you get to Nightmare.

But having to do Level 29 Solo on Nightmare all in one go is a 9 alone no doubt in my mind, that shit took me like 8hrs.

 

 

[Mellenthin]

On 11/02/2022 at 7:33 AM, AJ_Radio said:

 

Charles works well if you know how to use it. I just want to downgrade to version 1.03 without any issues.

 

You won't have any issues as long as make sure to turn off automatic updates. I haven't tried checking if the save file still works after updating, but generally that's something you want to avoid.

 

On 11/02/2022 at 4:18 PM, EGZAM said:

I have yet to play this game.
If I downgrade, what is the plat difficulty level ? 

 

I think an 8 is a fair estimate on 1.03, a 7 or lower if you have a skilled second player helping you out.

 

A 9 or 10 is way too high in my opinion, but as with everything else, I guess that's subjective.

 

 

Edited February 26, 2022 by Mellenthin

[Wild-Arms-R]

3 hours ago, Mellenthin said:

 

You won't have any issues as long as make sure to turn off automatic updates. I haven't tried checking if the save file still works after updating, but generally that's something you want to avoid.

 

 

I think an 8 is a fair estimate on 1.03, a 7 or lower if you have a skilled second player helping you out.

 

A 9 or 10 is way too high in my opinion, but as with everything else, I guess that's subjective.

 

 

You dont even have the platinum tho?

 

I may be inclined to agree on difficulty for version 1.03, it may hover around a 7 or even a 6.

 

But I know from personal experience Doom 2 on 1.08 is a 9.

Edited February 27, 2022 by Wild-Arms-R