nrs1nrs1 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I'm here for the game TBH, the trophies are a really cool added bonus. Housemarque has proven themselves in my mind and everything about this game speaks to me. Excited to pick it up and get going 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LothricCastle Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Glad the rumored beat the game without dying trophy doesn't exist lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONUOsFan Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 It's hard to say for sure without playing it, but this does look like an easy list, especially by Housemarque standards - I don't see anything about a Master difficulty or anything like that. I'll reserve judgement to see how I feel later, but their last two games were too hard to be enjoyable in my opinion. I platinumed Nex Machina but I really, really hated Veteran difficulty and thought it was unfair. I didn't even try Master difficulty on Matterfall because I didn't think it was good enough to put myself through that pain and it seemed like it was pain for the sake of pain and not really the fullest extension of the core gameplay - especially having to do the time trials on Master. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foremanskin Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I don't think we should jump to conclusions and assume it's going to be a free platinum. It is a roguelike/lite? after all. Just beating the game might be hard, who knows. If Spelunky 2 had only one difficult trophy and it was to just "beat the game", it would still be a challenge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DividedByMankind Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, LordEddardStark7 said: According to you then all Souls games should be easy as they don't have difficulty trophies and only collectibles and completing the game and hence 1-2/10 trophy lists, amirite? SOuls games are another story, this is a psychological horror game that you cannot compare at all trophy wise toward a soul game. if i was to guess, this game will be a 15h story, maybe not even that(a soul game is 3 times that and thats just for completing it, for plat it is 150h ish)Prob a tripple devolopment budget aswell, this is A New ip(thats a risk) since its only PS5. far from comparible to Returnal. And i know trophies and Sony really well. But we will see, should get my copy this week or early next week. EDIT: Also my comment is ment toward the READ of what the trophy describtion says and thoughts of the trophies of this game, not how actual hard the game will be, nobody knows that yet. So to me the trophies tells me its a 1 maybe a 2 in diffculty trophy wise. On a souls game you can clearly see it is GRIND, here you cant(what a clueless person you are). Edited April 19, 2021 by DividedByMankind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offdutysuperhero Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, ahmedelebiary said: It's funny how some of the people complaining how easy the plat is also have loads of Ratalaikas on their profiles ?? Caught me red handed Edit: I always hope for a good challenge. But will still pick it up regardless of course. Edited April 19, 2021 by offdutysuperhero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Zombz Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) woah i had no idea this was a rogue like, gonna watch some streamers/youtubers play it before i pick it up at full price though. housemarque usually deliver though so i'm confident this is a day 1/2 pick up no idea about the trophy list, not sure how it can be hard though unless the game itself is hard Edited April 20, 2021 by Teh_Zombz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 13 hours ago, ONUOsFan said: I'll reserve judgement to see how I feel later, but their last two games were too hard to be enjoyable in my opinion. I platinumed Nex Machina but I really, really hated Veteran difficulty and thought it was unfair. I didn't even try Master difficulty on Matterfall because I didn't think it was good enough to put myself through that pain and it seemed like it was pain for the sake of pain and not really the fullest extension of the core gameplay - especially having to do the time trials on Master. Can't say I agree that Nex Machina and Matterfall were too hard to be enjoyable, but they were certainly both pretty challenging. I will say though - if you managed to get Veteran mode done in Nex Machina - believe me - you can do Master mode on Matterfall - I did both games back to back, and while Matterfall is harder to get to grips with initially, and to learn the basics of, it really isn't on the same level of difficulty as Nex Machina at the higher difficulties. Obviously if you weren't enjoying them, then don't do it - but I just wanted to let you know just in case it was Nex Machina PTSD that was warding you off the Matterfall Master run - it isn't likely to trigger the same levels of frustration ☺️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveInHell Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 If only I had a sugar papa to give me a PS5 sigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerRKO Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 The list looks decent, seems to me that is a play our game and do everything kinda game. Nothing crazy like kill 7,000 enemies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yowzagabowza Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, DrBloodmoney said: Can't say I agree that Nex Machina and Matterfall were too hard to be enjoyable, but they were certainly both pretty challenging. I will say though - if you managed to get Veteran mode done in Nex Machina - believe me - you can do Master mode on Matterfall - I did both games back to back, and while Matterfall is harder to get to grips with initially, and to learn the basics of, it really isn't on the same level of difficulty as Nex Machina at the higher difficulties. Obviously if you weren't enjoying them, then don't do it - but I just wanted to let you know just in case it was Nex Machina PTSD that was warding you off the Matterfall Master run - it isn't likely to trigger the same levels of frustration I still can't believe that Matterfall has a higher platinum rate then Nex. I didn't have any trouble with Nex but Matterfall Master made me so mad. It's those god damn revenge bullets, I hate them so much >:( The controls are weird, too, so that added to it. I wish I could go back to it, but I don't want to have to relearn the game and controls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, yowzagabowza said: I still can't believe that Matterfall has a higher platinum rate then Nex. I didn't have any trouble with Nex but Matterfall Master made me so mad. It's those god damn revenge bullets, I hate them so much >:( The controls are weird, too, so that added to it. I wish I could go back to it, but I don't want to have to relearn the game and controls. really? - that was the opposite for me - Nex Veteran was a holy terror for me, but Matterfall didn't give me quite as much trouble - though I did do Matterfall after Nex, so maybe my brain had just adjusted to match the Housemarque rhythm by that point ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slava Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) A few people called this game a first-party title here. Just wanted to say this is incorrect. While Returnal is exclusvie to PS5, Sony doesn't own Housemarque. This trophy list does look easier at the first glance. There are no difficulty-related trophies unlike in Nex Machina, for example. But this is a different kind of game, a kind of rogue-like instead of a full on arcade style shooter. Maybe the difficulty is hiding somewhere else. We can only assume what stuff like 200% Max Integrity means. And we obviously don't know how hard the game itself is. Edited April 20, 2021 by Alderriz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeltedDreams1 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) I hope there are more bosses than what trophies hint... This plat looks easy, but i do expect bunch of more challenging trophies being added after release. 20 minutes ago, Alderriz said: A few people called this game a first-party title here. Just wanted to say this is incorrect. While Returnal is exclusvie to PS5, Sony doesn't own Housemarque. This trophy list does look easier at the first glance. There are no difficulty-related trophies unlike in Nex Machina, for example. But this is a different kind of game, a kind of rogue-like instead of a full on arcade style shooter. Maybe the difficulty is hiding somewhere else. We can only assume what stuff like 200% Max Integrity means. And we obviously don't know how hard the game itself is. It's confirmed, Returnal does not have difficulty options. It's a single difficulty. Edited April 20, 2021 by MeltedDreams1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrickosan Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 44 minutes ago, Alderriz said: A few people called this game a first-party title here. Just wanted to say this is incorrect. While Returnal is exclusvie to PS5, Sony doesn't own Housemarque. IP belongs to Sony, Playstation Studios to be exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXaphor Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 It's a first-party title. Funded and owned by SIE. Developed under the PlayStation Studio umbrella. The studio that developed it doesn't need to be owned by Sony. Another example, DeS Remake and the latest Sackboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Paul_Smith Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 The Game looks awesome! But not for $70 £70. Will wait for sale and most likely pick it up down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orenn16 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 On 4/18/2021 at 10:13 PM, Mercenary09 said: You can tell Sony's mandate that their first-party games are to have very achievable Platinums carried over to this. Housemarque games have always been challenging but this looks like the easiest one yet. Not that I'm complaining. Source on this Sony mandate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeltedDreams1 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Orenn16 said: Source on this Sony mandate? PowerPyx mentioned that before on his website. He is receiving review copies and know. Sony is all in with accessibility. ''Game help'' on PS5 is perfect example. You can bet that Ratchet Rift Apart won't have trophies tied to difficulty modes. ? btw i'm still not sure if will buy Returnal at release. It's 75 euros where i live while RE Village is 55 and i'm more hyped for latter. Waiting for impressions i guess. Edited April 20, 2021 by MeltedDreams1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly_Ha_Ha Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I didn't like the looks of Matterfall so I haven't tried it yet, but between Resogun, Dead Nation, Nex, and Alienation, I found Nex to be the most challenging. Just an aside, nothing to do with this game. I expect this game to be as hard as Alienation, which is to say not challenging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slava Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Patrickosan said: IP belongs to Sony, Playstation Studios to be exact. 1 hour ago, eXaphor said: It's a first-party title. Funded and owned by SIE. Developed under the PlayStation Studio umbrella. The studio that developed it doesn't need to be owned by Sony. Another example, DeS Remake and the latest Sackboy. Okay, maybe I'm wrong here. Welp. I've always thought that the games that are funded and published by Sony but not developed internally are still not considered "first-party" titles. I've heard people call this type of relationship "second-party", although it's not an actual term. Because "first-party" by definition means developed by the company and its studios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Alderriz said: Okay, maybe I'm wrong here. Welp. I've always thought that the games that are funded and published by Sony but not developed internally are still not considered "first-party" titles. I've heard people call this type of relationship "second-party", although it's not an actual term. Because "first-party" by definition means developed by the company and its studios. IP ownership dicatates the First Party title designation. First Party studio/developer coincides with who owns the developer. The two can and do differ on many projects. We're all really splitting hairs that don't need to be split here though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slava Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, DaivRules said: IP ownership dicatates the First Party title designation. First Party studio/developer coincides with who owns the developer. The two can and do differ on many projects. We're all really splitting hairs that don't need to be split here though. Ah, okay, good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iGGTheEnd Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 21 hours ago, LothricCastle said: Glad the rumored beat the game without dying trophy doesn't exist lol To be fair it's a Roguelikes so you will probobly have to do that anyways to finish the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikutai Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Easy Platinum but a terrible Setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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