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Update a Trophy List

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10 hours ago, Dreggit said:

I personally do not enjoy the constant back and forth regarding this particular item of interest. As a team, we three came to an agreement regarding the decision, and we presented our conclusion to the community. As fans, you are allowed an opinion, but as staff, we have made our descision. Accept it or not, the community needs to respect the descision.

 

It would be one thing if you had intimate knowledge of the games/series, but as Beyond admitted above, you don't, and came to your conclusion by watching a couple of videos on YouTube. In situations like this, I don't think it's unreasonable to defer to people who know more than you about the subject in question. Between this and what happened when I suggested that reversing Blind Mango's decision and reverting game names back to their original language maybe wasn't the best idea, you seem incapable of accepting feedback. Just because you made a decision doesn't mean you have to rigidly stick to it no matter what. If you're honestly suggesting the Game Information Team know better than the rest of the community all of the time, I think you're on a bit of a power trip my dude.

As I said, I think it's fine having a combined stage with Yakuza 1/2 and Kiwami 1/2, but you should at least be consistent about it with other series. I think the example I brought up with Final Fantasy VII Remake is perfectly valid. Why should that get its own stage separate from the original FFVII when Yakuza 1/2 and Kiwami 1/2 are made to share one?

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On 3/5/2021 at 5:54 AM, ArmoredSnowman said:

Agreed. It's been created. :) Thanks!

 

12 hours ago, Undead Wolf said:

It seems odd that Star Ocean: First Departure R is Stage 5 considering it's a remake of the first game in the series. It should be Stage 1. 
https://psnprofiles.com/series/124-star-ocean

This has been fixed. I had to shuffle everything up a stage once I moved Departure R down to the first stage. If I somehow made a mistake when doing so and got them out of order (It happens!), please let me know and I'll make the necessary changes, but based on release date it looked okay. Thanks for pointing this out!

 

 

 

As to the current discussion, the main reason why FF7 and FF7R are in different stages is because the new game is vastly different from the old one. It's so different from the original that it's hard to say that it's the same game at all. The original plays more like a turn-based game while the new game plays much more like an action RPG. Since the new one is clearly much different than the original (it's also only 1/3rd of the game), we feel this warrants it having it's own individual stage.

 

 

 

I'm going to get a little off topic here, but hopefully, this helps lower the temperature for anyone who may be upset at myself or anyone else on the team... First off, I'm not even going to pretend like I'm an expert at every game and every series (ain't nobody got time for that) which is why I normally sit on updating a few things to try and do the proper research/due diligence when I get a chance. Any changes I make to series are either well-researched or verified by several other people, and I'm 100% sure it's the same for both my colleagues in Dreggit and DEI2EK. I think the problem here though ultimately lies in subjectivity of the series system. In many cases like Yakuza, I think there are probably multiple "acceptable" answers to how the series can look, but not everyone is going to agree with it (Resident Evil is another great example of this). Therefore, when a change is suggested to a series, it's not always going to be changed because ultimately, it comes down to how people see the series differently and it's unfortunate, but not everyone is going to be happy with the decision.

 

I am more than happy to listen to people's opinions or perspective on different series and how they should be set up (it may eventually be changed with enough support), but please, PLEASE don't think that we just throw a dart blindly when we set these up. We do put a lot of work and research into it (Dreggit especially, which is probably why he responded the way he did). We make mistakes, but please realize we volunteer our own free time into setting these things up. It gets a little disheartening sometimes to see people complain about the series feature because the team (and again, especially Dreggit) put so much time into getting it set up for everyone so just keep that in mind. This is all I'm going to say on the matter because I don't want to derail this thread. You are free to send me a PM if you want to discuss this more. but I want to keep the pings to a minimum for anyone following the thread.

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1 hour ago, Beyondthegrave07 said:

This has been fixed. I had to shuffle everything up a stage once I moved Departure R down to the first stage. If I somehow made a mistake when doing so and got them out of order (It happens!), please let me know and I'll make the necessary changes, but based on release date it looked okay. Thanks for pointing this out!

 

Thanks, but I see Star Ocean: Till The End Of Time is on Stage 5 now instead when it should be Stage 3.

To clear up any confusion, this is the correct order:
First Departure > Second Evolution > Till The End Of Time > The Last Hope > Integrity and Faithlessness

I appreciate that you don't want to derail the thread further, but after last time, I don't see a PM getting us anywhere. I don't expect a response to this part, but I just want to put it out there.

I get what you're saying about FFVII Remake being so different from the original that its considered its own game, but you have to understand that the exact same argument could apply to Kiwami 2 and Yakuza 2. I certainly wouldn't consider the former to be a replacement for the original because they differ in a lot of ways, not just in graphical fidelity. Now the lines between a remaster, remake, and reimagining can be incredibly blurred at times, so it's understandable that you might come to a different conclusion than me or someone else about what is deserving of its own stage, but what gets me is this attitude that Dreggit showed above of refusing to acknowledge the legitimacy of anyone's opinion except their own even when they don't have all the information. If you don't consider yourself to be an "expert" at a game/series, then you should be more accepting of opinions from people who do have more experience with it than you. Watching a couple of YouTube videos doesn't compare to actually playing the games yourself.

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Werewolf Heart of Forest page is incomplete. I found the following info on it

 

URL: Werewolf: The Apocalypse - Heart of the Forest Trophies • PSNProfiles.com

Genre: Adventure, Role-playing (RPG), Visual Novel

Developers: Different Tales

Publishers: Walkabout Games

Game Modes: Single player

Themes: Horror

Releases PS4 24/Feb/2021 (developer page doesn't have a release date for ps4 lol, but the psn store gives this date)

 

For header image I found this:

https://imgur.com/7YeHVsw

(More options can be found on the developer's page, if you go Werewolf: The Apocalypse – Heart of the Forest – Different Tales and click on "press pack"


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For Yonder: The Cloud Catcher Chronicles, I would like to suggest other, better header images:

https://imgur.com/kltbtxJ

https://imgur.com/8K3KOCx

 

These and more options can be found at Yonder: The Cloud Catcher Chronicles (yonderchronicles.com), under "press kit" 

 

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Ah yes, how about a series called Vampire: The Masquerade with 

Vampire: The Masquerade - Shadows of New York Trophies • PSNProfiles.com

Vampire: The Masquerade - Coteries of New York Trophies • PSNProfiles.com

and hopefully, one day, Bloodlines 2

 

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4 hours ago, Undead Wolf said:

 Now the lines between a remaster, remake, and reimagining can be incredibly blurred at times, so it's understandable that you might come to a different conclusion than me or someone else about what is deserving of its own stage, but what gets me is this attitude that Dreggit showed above of refusing to acknowledge the legitimacy of anyone's opinion except their own even when they don't have all the information. If you don't consider yourself to be an "expert" at a game/series, then you should be more accepting of opinions from people who do have more experience with it than you. Watching a couple of YouTube videos doesn't compare to actually playing the games yourself.

You aren't wrong. And ultimately, this is what makes our job difficult with series. The lines are incredibly blurred when it comes to some games whether or not they are remasters/remakes or re-imaginings which is why I think there is some subjectivity involved and multiple "right" answers to how a series set up.

 

I do typically go to experts on this when I'm not sure. For the resident evil series, I asked several people who played all of the games before deciding to keep RE2 and RE3 where they are at. I have deferred to DEI2EK a lot with the Yakuza series because as you said, it's different to play the games than to just watch videos, and he is a fan of the series. I try my best to educate myself on the matter though before posting here and giving someone a negative response.

 

I'm not in the mindset that once a series is set up, it can never be changed. What I do want to avoid (and this has happened in the past) is where someone says a series should be set up one way, then later, have a post that completely contradicts it and making changes to put it back. It ends up as a game of tug of war and in the end, I'm the only one who really loses.

 

 

 

Also, I was afraid I messed up the order on Star Ocean! :facepalm: I will fix that here shortly. Thanks for clarifying the order!

 

EDIT: order is fixed.

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10 hours ago, Beyondthegrave07 said:

while the new game plays much more like an action RPG

Wait, does that mean it plays like FFXV? If so, I'll definitely have to give it a go!

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Found other incomplete trophy lists :

 

Lanternium 

https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/11063-lanternium
 

Platform: PS4

Release: 12/JULY/2020

Publisher: Victory Road

Developer: Blazing Planet Studio

Genre: Adventure, Indie, Puzzle

Theme: ? Adventure?

Banner (header?) suggestion: https://imgur.com/aKfBxJC

 

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Terra Lander Redux

Platform: PS4

Release: 7/7/2020

Publisher: FUNBOX MEDIA LIMITED

Developer: FUNBOX MEDIA LIMITED

Genre: Shooter, Casual

Theme(?): Space?

Banner (header?) suggestion : https://imgur.com/fQlgoqu

 

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Terra Lander II - Rockslide Rescue 

Platform: PS4

Release: 7/17/2020  

Publisher: FUNBOX MEDIA LIMITED

Developer: FUNBOX MEDIA LIMITED

Genre: Shooter, Casual

Theme(?): Space?

Banner (header?) suggestion: https://imgur.com/HsMHh6z

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Terra bomber

 

Platform: PS4 Release: 10/20/2020

Publisher: FUNBOX MEDIA LIMITED

Developer: FUNBOX MEDIA LIMITED

Genre: Arcade

Theme(?): Space?

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The Destruction AllStars list needs rescanning please, because a recent patch has changed some of the trophy requirements :).

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Hi, more trophy lists updates ☺️

 

 

Dreaming Sarah

Genre: Adventure, side scrolling, platform, Indie

Platforms: PS4, PS5

Developer: Asteristic Game Studio

Publisher: Ratalaika Games SL

Mode: Single Player

Themes: Fantasy, Psychological, Horror(?)

Release Date: March 5, 2021

Banner/header: https://imgur.com/nUHbhZs, https://imgur.com/gDd6Obo

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Strawberry Vinegar

Genre: Adventure, Indie, Casual, Visual Novel

Platform: PS4

Release Date:

PS4 EU June 3, 2020

PS4 US June 2, 2020

PS4 HK June 30, 2020

Publisher: Ratalaika Games SL

Developer: Ebi-hime

Mode: Single Player

Themes: ?

Banner/header: https://imgur.com/e7VDSBH

___________

 

TWIN ROBOTS

Genre:  Puzzle, Platform, Indie

Platforms: PS4, Vita

Developer: Thinice Games

Publisher: Ratalaika Games SL

Mode: Single Player

Themes: ?

PS4 NA Oct 4th 2017

PS4 EU Oct 10th 2017

PS Vita NA Oct 4th 2017

PS Vita EU Oct 10th 2017

___________

 

Plantera          

Genre: Simulation, Strategy, Indie

Platforms: PS Vita

Developer: VaragtP Studios

Publisher: Ratalaika Games SL

Mode: Single Player

Themes: Fantasy, Business

Release Date: May 23, 2017

___________

TAMIKU

Developer: Josyan

Publisher: Ratalaika Games SL

Genre: Arcade, Indie

Platform: PS4

Release Date:  Sept 18, 2020

Mode: Single Player

Theme: Action

__________

I and Me

Developer: Wish Fang

Publisher: Ratalaika Games SL

Genre: Platform, Puzzle, Indie

Platform: PS4, PS Vita

PS4, Vita EU Release Date March 6th, 2019       

PS4, Vita NA  Release Date: March 5th, 2019

Mode: Single Player

___________

LEGEND OF ETHERNAL

Developer: Lucid Dreams Studio

Publisher: Natsume Inc., Natsume, NA Publishing Inc

Genre: Adventure, action, Indie

Mode: Single Player

Release: 10/30/2020

Themes: ?

Banner/header: https://imgur.com/e00zbzA

___________

Football Game 

Genre: Adventure, Horror, point and click, indie

Developer: Cloak and Dagger Games

Publisher: Ratalaika Games SL

Mode: Single Player

Platforms: PS4, Vita

EU PS4, Vita Release Date: Nov 6, 2019

NA PS4, Vita Release Date: Nov 5, 2019

Theme: Horror (?)

Banner/header: https://imgur.com/Hwd5wEo

___________

 

APOCALIPSIS: THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL

Genre: Adventure, puzzle, point and click, Indie

Platforms: PS4

Developer: Punch Punk Games

Publisher: Klabater

Mode: Single Player

Themes: Historical, Fantasy, Adventure

Release Date: September 5th, 2019

____________

 

Mekabolt

Developer: Somepx

Publisher: Ratalaika Games SL

Genre: Action, Platform, Puzzle

Platform: Ps4, Vita

Release

EU PS4 Vita: 21.8.2019

NA PS4 Vita: 20.8.2019

Themes: Action

Banner/header: https://imgur.com/02y8eD2

 

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@KantoRyu, I hope I have not been coming across as argumentive because that's not my intention. Any time we make changes to series, someone is going to notice, and if they disagree with it, it'll end up in my PMs or here and it creates the situation earlier where I'm told contradictory information and have to switch it back and forth. This is the reason why we can't 100% rely on the community experts because some of them either don't know the guidelines or just want to see the games in a different order because they just don't like the basic guidelines in place. I know what you are saying by rely on the experts. This is normally why I sit on changes to series because I ask other people, research it myself, read comments here, etc. Sometimes, it's pretty obvious (Star Ocean is a good recent example of this) and the changes are made immediately.

 

Other times, it's difficult for us to determine so we leave it as is until we can get more information on it. I haven't even touched the Yakuza series and only recently started doing research on them and responded here so it doesn't look like we are just ignoring you entirely.

 

Anyways, here's the rules for how series are set up if you were curious. These are the guidelines we use.

 

https://forum.psnprofiles.com/topic/96100-series-master-list/

 

We can only put each game in a single series at this point in time. I understand that Lost paradise is a cross-over game, but typically, for cross-overs, the name of the game decides which series we put it in. I get the japanese part of it, but this is an english forum/site and the english name is what it is. If anything, you make it sound like it belongs in the "No Stage" of the FoTNS series. Haha.

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32 minutes ago, Arethien said:

*Edit*

But, there'll never be the perfect one order everyone agrees to. No matter how many experts you ask, how much research you do and how streamlined series rules are made. Maybe someday somewhere we will have an option to choose from:

1. Release order

2. Original story order

3. Remade story order

4. Recommended story order

5. In game timeline order

6. ??? 🤭

 

Honestly, I wish people could just move around and customize it themselves and have what the GIT put in there as the "default" option so people could customize it how they want if they don't like how it's currently ordered.

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9 hours ago, Beyondthegrave07 said:

We can only put each game in a single series at this point in time. I understand that Lost paradise is a cross-over game, but typically, for cross-overs, the name of the game decides which series we put it in. I get the japanese part of it, but this is an english forum/site and the english name is what it is. If anything, you make it sound like it belongs in the "No Stage" of the FoTNS series. Haha.

It’s not just a cross-over, but a direct spinoff as the devs officially state themselves. Let me show it to you with the messages from the legendary guy who made English guides for Kenzan and Ishin, KHHSubs:

 

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Mis-tag. This list is actually for JP, not Asia: https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/12175-irisfall

 

Source:

I don't know what is going on with the tags lately but there are a lot of lists with correct tags that being erroneously re-tagged with the wrong regions by person or person's unknown e.g. Pachi Pachi: On A Roll, here are the correct regions:

 

Global Shared: https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/11815-pachi-pachi-on-a-roll

Asia PS4: https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/12327-pachi-pachi-on-a-roll

Asia Vita: https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/12251-pachi-pachi-on-a-roll

 

The JP lists are correctly tagged but the Asia and Global lists are completely mis-tagged, because there are no separate lists for the EU and NA versions of the game. Also, all of these lists need rescanning because the requirements have been changed for various trophies.

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