Popular Post AyAerith Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) Edit: It appears that patch 1.03 has fixed this cheese. You will need to delete the update and perform the cheese on version 1.00 in order to do this now. Hi friends, First of all, I would like to say that if you aren't cool with cheeses and/or want to do Insanity legit, great. You do you, but don't come in here posting nonsense unless you have information to share. With that out of the way: I mentioned in the PSA: Mass Effect 1 Insanity cheese still works thread that Xbox players can currently cheese Paramour II/III and more importantly: Insanity II/III by simply romancing once or beating Insanity once, closing the game, reloading a save, and doing it again. That is such a time saver that would be great for vets who don't really want to play the hell that is Mass Effect 2's insanity again. Sure, we will do it, but what if you could save those 20-40 hours for something else? Unfortunately, the cheese only works on Xbox and I've been trying to replicate it and/or find out why. With that being said, I uploaded all my stuff to the Cloud and deleted everything off my console, except the save I made right before traveling to Ilos, which locks in your romance. Replaying the scene with my chosen partner actually managed to trigger Paramour II! But only Paramour II, as deleting my profile saves again and repeating the steps did not unlock Paramour III. I tried doing it offline once and repeating various things, but it seems to pull your trophy information from somewhere. When I boot up the game after deleting my trilogy profile saves (all profile saves, to be safe), it shows zero trophies unlocked at the Mass Effect 1 main menu. But once I've done the romance scene and exited back to the ME 1 menu, all my trophies are there, including Paramour I and II. Since nobody has unlocked Paramour III yet, I suppose we'll have to wait and see if it is even unlocking properly in the first place on the PS side. I want to turn it over to anyone willing to test the same theory on Insanity II, who already has Insanity I cleared on their chosen game. Or anyone who wants to do more testing in hopes we can find a reliable method to skip Insanity II and III. I got this idea from the Bioshock Infinite blue ribbon trophy skip, so I thought it may work similar to that. Anyone want to take my theory and run with it to see if we can figure something out? Or once far enough into the trilogy, see if the method will work when you have say two Insanity clears and can skip the third one. Idk just an idea. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ EDIT: This has now been confirmed to work! Thank you for your hard work and testing, Wrangberth & Varun10000! Here are the official steps, tested by myself on patch 1.02: Step 0: You will need to revert your patch back to 1.00 in order to do this cheese now, since it was patched in 1.03. For physical games, delete the game (not your saves) and then redownload the game while choosing not to download the patch. Either pause it or turn off your internet until the cheese is performed. Do not worry, several users have indicated that saves on patch 1.03 work with game version 1.00. If you have a digital copy of the game, you will have to perform a more complex way to downgrade to patch 1.00. Here's a link to that (I take no credit): Step 1: Complete Mass Effect 1 on Insanity. You can either do this legit, or by doing the cheese outlined in this post. Credit to xZoneHunter for discovering the old cheese still works from the PS3 days. If doing it legit, make sure to keep a save right before activating the final panel in the Citadel Tower. Step 2: Once you have earned Insanity I, quit the game and back up all of your data to the PS+ Cloud. This step is necessary to ensure you keep progress on other trophies in the trilogy set, such as Paramour and Long Service Medal. Step 3: Delete the gamer profile, trilogy profile and launcher profile from your console. Do this for any game you have started, such as Mass Effect 2 and 3. You will also want to delete the “Saved Data” file. This looks different than the other saves as it has the Mass Effect Legendary Edition picture on it. No need to delete any auto saves or game saves. Step 4: Launch Mass Effect 1 and go to Extras -> Trophies to confirm you have none unlocked. All trophies should be grayed out. Back out and press Exit to Launcher. Step 5: Re-launch Mass Effect 1 and check your trophies again (Extras -> Trophies). They should all now be unlocked as intended. Step 6: Now you can load your save from step 1 right before the final fight with Saren on Insanity. Defeat Saren once more and the next Insanity trophy should pop at the Mass Effect Relay loading screen, right before talking with Anderson/Udina. Step 7: Repeat Steps 3-6 in order to unlock Insanity III. Congrats! You no longer have to spend hours on Mass Effect 2 & 3's insanity if you do not want to. Now just download your profile saves you deleted earlier and continue on. As noted, this will also work on Paramour II/III should you need it. You would need to make a save right before traveling to Ilos in Mass Effect 1, and then do steps 3-6. Just replace "watch romance scene" with "fight Saren." This should also theoretically work with Mass Effect 2 and 3, as my Paramour III popped in Mass Effect 2 after traveling to the Omega 4 relay. Lastly, this can be done anytime. I personally did it after completing Mass Effect 1 and 2, and xZoneHunter has successfully done it after completing Mass Effect 1 and 3 on Insanity. Any other questions or problems, feel free to post. Edited June 8, 2021 by AerisFlowerGirl Added patch information 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReoJee Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) Will try it out as well this weekend and see what works and what not. Perhaps Paramour III and kill trophies are glitched on PS4? Two people already have a platinum in ME3, but no trophies in the mutual list (even if they skipped romance, at least kill trophies should have popped). Edited May 17, 2021 by ReoJee Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGriff1986 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, ReoJee said: Perhaps Paramour III and kill trophies are glitched on PS4? Two people already have a platinum in ME3, but no trophies in the mutual list (even if they skipped romance, at least kill trophies should have popped). Somebody commented elsewhere that if you regularly delete the save which tracks your mutual stats you can stop this list from ever starting to pop. That’s probably what you’re seeing there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damcrac5 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 5 hours ago, ReoJee said: Will try it out as well this weekend and see what works and what not. Perhaps Paramour III and kill trophies are glitched on PS4? Two people already have a platinum in ME3, but no trophies in the mutual list (even if they skipped romance, at least kill trophies should have popped). It is strange that the two plats in ME3 don't have any of the kill trophies. You would think a full playthrough should result in at least 250 kills, unless they don't count kills by allies. The only 2 people to plat it, both played passively via biotics and tech and waited for their allies to kill everything? AS far as paramour III, another couple of days and we should have our answer. 0 people have it so far, but one of these front runners for the trilogy should unlock it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReoJee Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, damcrac5 said: It is strange that the two plats in ME3 don't have any of the kill trophies. You would think a full playthrough should result in at least 250 kills, unless they don't count kills by allies. The only 2 people to plat it, both played passively via biotics and tech and waited for their allies to kill everything? AS far as paramour III, another couple of days and we should have our answer. 0 people have it so far, but one of these front runners for the trilogy should unlock it soon. They were deleting their savefile (the one belonging to mutual list) once in a while so kill trophies did not pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wrangberth Posted May 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2021 I did the ME1 Insanity cheese to get Insanity I and I was able to get Insanity II with deleting all profiles and redoing the final boss again. But Insanity III did not work the third time i tried it. So something is going on with the III trophies if both Insanity and Paramour doesn't unlock, I just hope they aren't glitched. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatMuttGuy Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Wrangberth said: I did the ME1 Insanity cheese to get Insanity I and I was able to get Insanity II with deleting all profiles and redoing the final boss again. But Insanity III did not work the third time i tried it. So something is going on with the III trophies if both Insanity and Paramour doesn't unlock, I just hope they aren't glitched. Oh well that's cool to know that at least it will work with Insanity II. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damcrac5 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, ReoJee said: They were deleting their savefile (the one belonging to mutual list) once in a while so kill trophies did not pop. I see. So by deleting these saves, not romancing and not playing on insanity, the list will remain at 0 trophies and you can delete the ME LE separate list from you profile. Allowing all 3 plats without the 4th list. Clever if you don't want to run the game on insanity. Though having to delete ever hour it would seem to make sure nothing pops would seem tedious... Edited May 17, 2021 by damcrac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montyzu Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) I remember back in the day the trophies Long Service Medal being bugged, I didnt get ME3 100% because of that, hope they fixed it Edited May 17, 2021 by Montyzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damcrac5 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, ReoJee said: They were deleting their savefile (the one belonging to mutual list) once in a while so kill trophies did not pop. Actually there was a bug that prevented them from making progress during mass effect 3. New Patch today addresses that. https://www.ea.com/games/mass-effect/mass-effect-legendary-edition/news/update-5-17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReoJee Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, damcrac5 said: Actually there was a bug that prevented them from making progress during mass effect 3. New Patch today addresses that. https://www.ea.com/games/mass-effect/mass-effect-legendary-edition/news/update-5-17 Well it says same for ME1 and they did not unlock romance trophy, so I am still leaning to them purposefully avoiding this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyAerith Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Wrangberth said: I did the ME1 Insanity cheese to get Insanity I and I was able to get Insanity II with deleting all profiles and redoing the final boss again. But Insanity III did not work the third time i tried it. So something is going on with the III trophies if both Insanity and Paramour doesn't unlock, I just hope they aren't glitched. Hey thanks for doing this! I am very surprised nobody has Paramour III yet, but I suppose the game has only been street legal for three days and it will take time. If this glitch can be used to skip at least one Insanity, I'm all for it. Mass Effect 3's Insanity is hard and challenging, but the kind of hard where it requires a lot of fast-paced heads-up gameplay from the player. I remember having some tough sections but nothing I couldn't do without practice and perseverance. Mass Effect 2's Insanity is beyond stupid and I would give anything to skip it. Edited May 18, 2021 by AerisFlowerGirl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylver001 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 What exactly are the conditions for this? I beat ME I final Boss now for 5 times with different Saves deleted and got no second Insane. I really would like to skip II.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyAerith Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 As far as I know, it was just to delete your profile saves (back them up to the Cloud first so you do not lose progress on stuff). However, I think it might be best to save this glitch until a second Insanity is cleared, and see if it you can skip the third. I am going to test this by beating Mass Effect 3 on Insanity, but it will probably take me 1-2 weeks before I am in a position to test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel6burgh Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I feel this 4th list is a major pain in the ass. Not that I would mind playing the game on the hardest difficulty but having to worry that the trophy will pop after doing the 3rd game. If it is glitched then it would take playing all 3 games again on the hardest difficulty once fixed. What a stupid idea. they should have just put the damn difficulty play throughs on each list and skipped this 4th list bullshit. they probably did it to not deter the ratalaka fan club types from playing the 3 games because of difficulty. I'll play these legit once I find out that the 4th list isn't bugged in any way, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylver001 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Is it a condition to restart a new carreer? That‘s the only thing I didn‘t try out. In my last attempt, I had deleted every save besides Autosave, which let me start the Battle without the cinematics introing it.. or is that the wrong part? To many variables.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReoJee Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 On 17/05/2021 at 6:35 PM, Wrangberth said: I did the ME1 Insanity cheese to get Insanity I and I was able to get Insanity II with deleting all profiles and redoing the final boss again. But Insanity III did not work the third time i tried it. So something is going on with the III trophies if both Insanity and Paramour doesn't unlock, I just hope they aren't glitched. What exactly did you do to get this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyAerith Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Sylver001 said: Is it a condition to restart a new carreer? That‘s the only thing I didn‘t try out. In my last attempt, I had deleted every save besides Autosave, which let me start the Battle without the cinematics introing it.. or is that the wrong part? To many variables.. Did you try doing the entire ME1 Insanity glitch from scratch, ie the casual save right before beating the game for the first time? Once I get through the trilogy (trying to take my time and enjoy it) I will be back to testing to help figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangberth Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, ReoJee said: What exactly did you do to get this? 14 hours ago, Sylver001 said: What exactly are the conditions for this? I beat ME I final Boss now for 5 times with different Saves deleted and got no second Insane. I really would like to skip II.. To clarify what I did a little bit. Note that this was before the 1.02 update a few days ago, I don't know if they sneakily fixed this with that patch or not. EDIT 2: Don't know if it matters, I don't think so, as I deleted all the profile saves beforehand, but I had started ME2 and played several hours before I tried this. Had not started ME3, I'm going to try start ME3 and play a little bit and then go back and do the below steps again to see if that unlocks Insanity III also. First I did this cheese step by step, giving me that cheesed save before the final boss. https://www.playstationtrophies.org/forum/topic/182334-hardcore-amp-insanity-made-easy/ I beat the boss and got Insanity I, pretty sure I went through all the scenes afterwards and got to the end scene, but don't think that matters. EDIT 1: I checked the Xbox version of this and saw they all talked about quitting the game straight after you get the achievement, its possible that's what I did the first time and what allowed me to get the second Insanity. Unfortunately I don't remember exactly what I did the first time, as I tried several different things afterwards to try and get the third Insanity without any luck so far. Backed up all my saves to the cloud/USB and deleted ALL the profile, gamer and whatever saves there is apart from the actual game save files. To be certain, just keep the save you used to get Insanity I with and delete everything else. Loaded the same save as I did the first Insanity on and did the boss again, and Insanity II pop for me. Edited May 19, 2021 by Wrangberth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyAerith Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 Reporting in to say that Paramour III popped as soon as I got my second romance in Mass Effect 2, after doing cheese above. That was very good news as it should mean that Insanity III should pop the same way and you should be able to skip at least one Insanity playthrough. Can't confirm yet though, so no promises but its better than nothing. Will test trying to pop Insanity II tomorrow, and then will try and beat Mass Effect 3 on Insanity for the third trophy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin_2943 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Out of curiosity has anyone tried pulling the same insanity trick on mass effect 2 like the same method as mass effect 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangberth Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Im not sure what I did, but managed get all three Paramour trophies playing around with the first romance scene in ME1. Now I have to back and try it with Insanity III again for like the 20th time.... Im getting really tired of beating Saren, its getting a bit tedious, its not like he is actually hard on insanity. EDIT: YES, I have now also managed to cheese Insanity III! Not really much more then trying a few different things again and again. I will try and write down what I did in hope somebody else can reproduce this. Edited May 20, 2021 by Wrangberth 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyAerith Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Wrangberth said: Im not sure what I did, but managed get all three Paramour trophies playing around with the first romance scene in ME1. Now I have to back and try it with Insanity III again for like the 20th time.... Im getting really tired of beating Saren, its getting a bit tedious, its not like he is actually hard on insanity. EDIT: YES, I have now also managed to cheese Insanity III! Not really much more then trying a few different things again and again. I will try and write down what I did in hope somebody else can reproduce this. Awesome news!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wrangberth Posted May 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) This is what I think I did to get all 3 Insanity trophies by only cheesing ME1. Using this old method three times with some extra steps seems to give you Insanity III. I hope somebody else can try this and help figure out which steps are actually necessary. EDIT: Check Varun10000 post below for a streamlined way of doing this, he figured out which parts are actually needed. The original cheese guide can be found here. https://www.playstationtrophies.org/forum/topic/182334-hardcore-amp-insanity-made-easy/ Insanity I Just do the original cheese steps to do this. Make sure to save before the final console on the Citadel, before the final boss, this save should NOT be on insanity difficulty already (Calling this your Start Save, really important not to lose this one) Complete the game Reload save from step 1 (Start Save) Set the difficulty to Insanity, make sure it is saved after exiting the options menu, and make a new save (Final Save) Start a new career, import your character you beat the game with While on Normandy, change difficulty to Insanity, make new save (Normandy Save) Continue to Eden Prime and wait for the autosave, after that make a new save (Eden Prime Save) Reload save from step 4 (Final Save) and beat final boss on Insanity difficulty, go through the cutscenes and the trophy should pop on the loading screen Insanity II Now we are deleting a few profile saves and redoing the all the cheese steps again. Its possible you don't have to redo the full cheese and can just reload the Final Save, but I did it fully again and that's what worked for me. Setup Start and had play a few hours of ME2 (Possibly not necessary) Backup all your Launcher Profile, Gamer Profile, Trilogy Gamer profile for all games and the Legendary Edition Saved Data files Delete all these files Redo ME1 cheese again (possible not necessary to fully redo it, maybe reloading the Final Save again works, but I fully redid the cheese to be sure) Reload your Start Save Set the difficulty to Insanity, make sure it is saved after exiting the options menu, and make a new save (Final Save 2) Start a new career, import your character you beat the game with While on Normandy, change difficulty to Insanity, make new save (Normandy Save 2) Continue to Eden Prime and wait for the autosave, after that make a new save (Eden Prime Save 2) Reload save from step 2 (Final Save 2) and beat final boss on Insanity difficulty, go through the cutscenes and the Insanity II trophy should pop on the same loading screen as before Insanity III Now we have to redo all of this again, but that didn't work for me initially. So I tried several different things and finally got it to work after accidentality doing a thing when trying to get Paramour III by repeating the first romance scene, and repeating that again for Insanity popped the third trophy for me. Steps 6 to 8 down below was the only new thing I did, it seems unnecessary, but maybe you need the game to recognize the first two trophies before you can get the third? I don't know if it even matters, or was just some fluke in the end. Setup Restore all the files you backed up before. Start one of the games and check the in-game trophy list have been updated. Start a character in ME3 and play to the first trophy (this alone did not work for me, so maybe not necessary at all) Continue playing ME2, I did all the way to the romance scene to see if Liara would pop the Paramour II trophy, she did not ☹️ (maybe not necessary) Backup all your Launcher Profile, Gamer Profile, Trilogy Gamer profile for all games and the Legendary Edition Saved Data files again Delete all these files again Start ME1 and check the in-game trophy menu, it should be empty Go back to the launcher from the options menu, and start ME1 again Check the trophy menu, all your trophies should magically appear from somewhere (from your PSN trophy list maybe? but why the second time you start the game and not the first time?) Redo ME1 cheese again (I again did this fully, but don't know if that actually matters) Reload your Start Save Change the difficulty to something else, just not Insanity, and create a second starting save (Start Save 2) (This is what I did, don't know if it actually matters) Set the difficulty to Insanity, make sure it is saved after exiting the options menu, and make a new save (Calling this Final Save 3) Start a new career, import your character you beat the game with While on Normandy, change difficulty to Insanity, make new save (Normandy Save 3) Continue to Eden Prime and wait for the autosave, after that make a new save (Eden Prime Save 3) Reload save from step 2 (Final Save 3) and beat final boss on Insanity difficulty, go through the cutscenes and the Insanity III trophy should pop on the same loading screen as before (don't know if its related, but the game crashed 5 times during the fight before I could finish it, so quitting/crashing the game and reloading the autosave before the fight seem to be perfectly fine) For Paramour II and Paramour III, I just did the same setup steps for the Insanity trophies and replayed the romance scene in ME1 again. I do recommend returning your backed up profiles saves, in case they are important for the Long Service Medal, which I personally suspect they are. I hope this long list of steps will help somebody else reproduce this. Good luck everyone trying this! Edited May 20, 2021 by Wrangberth 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Varun10000 Posted May 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) So I’m here to report what worked for me finally thanks to wrangberth here. I think I found the definitive way to get paramour 2/3 and insanity 2/3 without having to guess. And it’s weird. I’ll create a step by step of what I did down below. Some things to note: I didn’t do the insanity cheese because I beat the game legit on insanity the first time around. But I did create a second play through save on eden prime on insanity on top of my end game insanity save for insanity 2/3 (don’t think it’s necessary). Also I had started mass effect 2 and played until the first trophy popped as well but I don’t think they are necessary. Oh and I was on the 1.0 version of the game but that shouldn’t matter since people above have gotten the trophies to work post patch. Credits to Wrangberth for steps 4 and 5 since they are literally the only thing I did different and I was able to get all the trophies on the first try. So steps 4/5 seem to be the key LOL. Also I can confirm you don’t need to do the insanity cheese every single time you just need a save before Saren on insanity that’s it. Edit: Confirmed method Step 1: Create a save before interacting with the last console before the Saren fight. Then go ahead and beat Saren and finish the game to get Insaity 1. Note Only for people who did not do the game on insanity from the beginning: go ahead and do the insanity cheese after making the last save before interacting with the console. Step 2: Quit game and go and back up all your saves to cloud or USB. Step 3: Delete ONLY the gamer profile, trilogy profile, launcher profile and the “Saved Data”. Not the actual game saves but the one that simply says saved data and has a different thumbnail than the rest. So don’t delete any auto saves or game saves. Step 4: Launch Mass effect 1 and go and check your in game trophies to confirm you have none. Step 5: Exit to launcher and relaunch Mass Effect 1 and go to trophies to confirm you now have all your Trophies again (weird I know). Step 6: Simply load your save before hitting the console from step 1 and beat Saren again and you should get Insanity 2 on the load screen Step 7: Repeat steps 3-6 and you should now have Insanity 3 and have saved yourself a whole lot of time. I tried countless times last night and couldn’t get anything to work but after implementing steps 4 and 5 they all worked first try so that definitely seems to be the key. Note: for Paramour 2/3 simply keep a save before going to Ilos and do the exact same steps as above except you’re using your save before ilos. Simple. I think the reason steps 4/5 are key is because the game checks to see if you’ve done any insanity/paramour already and since you’re going in with no previous trophy data it assumes it’s unlocking Paramour 1/Insanity 1 so by doing steps 4 and 5 your’re allowing the game to know that you have paramour1/insanity 1 and after doing the requirements again the game credits you with paramour2/insanity 2. Same for paramour 3/insanity 3. That’s the only reason I can think of. As to why you have to delete some saves? Well I think the game recognizes that this is a “new playthrough” since your old data is gone and creates a set of data and triggers the trophies based on the in game trophies. If this method works for others then we can create a new thread so that people have the info more easily accessible. I hope this helps anyone struggling to figure out a way to easily get insanity2/3 and paramour 2/3 without having to do all the games on insanity. Credit go to Wrangberth and AerisFlowerGirl for helping me figure out the steps necessary. Edited May 21, 2021 by Varun10000 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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