So...What should I expect going into this game?

[Cerlayjux]

Been eyeing this game for a while and want to try for the Plat but from what I can tell it will consume your entire life. I've also seen that apparently you need certain hardware like a keyboard to have a chance. Seems like pure madness to me. On the other hand the rarity is very attempting to go for, I just don't want my life to be consumed for a whole year or something.

Edited May 30, 2021 by Cerlayjux

[Vergil]

That you will be spending many, many , many hours

[Beyondthegrave07]

It's very very difficult that takes a lot of skill and RNG to do. You'll likely spend 1,000+ hours going for it, and there's no guarantee you'll be able to do it. The keyboard isn't necessary, but helps immensely so I've heard.

 

And yes, it is complete madness. I have it on switch, and I could not imagine ever being able to get the plat for it if I ever decide to double dip.

 

Don't get me wrong though... It is a fantastic, fun game, but I can't say that I'd be willing to put 1,000 hours into it. I beat all the zones with cadence and a couple of other characters once (not straight, but in pieces) and that was hard enough for me.

Edited May 30, 2021 by Beyondthegrave07

[Dreggit]

11 minutes ago, Cerlayjux said:

Been eyeing this game for a while and want to try for the Plat but from what I can tell it will consume your entire life. I've also seen that apparently you need certain hardware like a keyboard to beehive a chance. Seems like pure madness to me. On the other hand the rarity is very attempting to go for, I just don't want my life to be consumed for a whole year or something.

 

You don't explicitly need a keyboard to play, but it can help.

 

Some notable things:

 

In regards to the game and some nuances

• The platinum has one online trophy.
• If you play this game online, but have unstable internet, then you will have difficulty playing the game. If you lose connection mid run, a popup notification comes up that takes your control away, but the game will continue behind it. In this way, you can lose a run due to a connection error and missing a beat or two to get rid of the popup.
• The games difficulty can be argued to be ones ability to comprehend a given situation at a moments notice. In this way, to have a chance at the platinum you need to understand four specific areas of the game
  • You will need to take time to understand how enemies move and attack. When it is safe and how they interact with eachother. This is the first big 'hurdle' of the game I would argue
  • You will need to understand how each character plays and what is viable for each. This is the second big 'hurdle' of the game. Without understanding this and the prior point, you are unlikely to clear 'endgame' characters like Bolt, Aria and Coda. Each character has a different ruleset that makes them play differently.
  • You will need to understand items and their interactions with eachother and the environment. Some are objectively better than others in a multitude of scenarios, but can also be objectively worse in other situations. By understanding the above two points, you can more easily make educated decisions on what the 'best play of action' is and make your runs go further.
  • You will need to understand how the maps are laid out. Every zone has a logic in how it is generated and by understanding that logic, you can locate the map exit in a pinch or hurry. Understanding also the various interactable objects, such as walls, portals, shrines, ice, lava stones, water, traps, ect. will make your runs ever cleaner.
• This game will take a long time to get a hang of for most people. It is often not intuitive until you have a fairly good understanding of the four above areas. Once those points, 'click,' you will find that the game is much easier to play.
• Don't expect success to come quickly, and be open to failing. It's inevitable that you will fail hundreds if not thousands of times in runs. It's all part of learning the game. If possible, it is better to watch the replay of your death and see what you did to die and what you could have done instead to prepare yourself next time.
• There are major differences in the game if you download the DLC. In terms of trophies, you must go 5 zones instead of 4, some enemy spawn logic changes, items are removed, some new items are added, some other changes in map generation occur. Additionally, seeds are different between DLC and base game. The same seed number will produce a different generation between the DLC installed and the base game without the DLC
• Play for fun, don't play for the trophies. Often times, players who play this game for the trophies end up quitting ahead of time due to frustration. I would recommend you play for fun and worry about trophies down the road after you have a good understanding of the game.

In regards to the games community:

• The games leaderboard (on PSNP) is one of the most guarded and the community is not necessarily the nicest about players not having a leaderboard entry in game. Often times, if you don't have a leaderboard entry, you risk being called a sham depending on what you do and how quickly you earn things. Something that I think is pretty unfair and drove me away from playing this game seriously. I only play this for fun when I have free time, and have no want to earn the platinum because I do not have a steady connection these days to play online all the time and don't need someone claiming something they have no evidence of.
• The community however, can also be very supportive of your progress if you give regular updates on it and will encourage you if you were to do so.

My recommendation before you start hunting trophies:

• Get a feeling for the game before you start looking things up. Often times in games like these, looking things up ahead of time before you have played the game makes it difficult to form natural strategies that might work better for you. Additionally, trying to emulate something in a guide you look up would be quite difficult without first understanding how/what you saw is utilized/applied in the game.
• After you have familiarized yourself with the game, and are in a comfortable place. Look through the guides on PSNP as they are exhaustively comprehensive in regards to much of the nuances I mentioned and strategies you should employ.
• Again, focus on having fun before anything else. The game is not worth losing your health just because the trophies are rare.

[stealthlevel100]

Yes, I highly recommend you start and plat the game because you have the Badland plat and 252 ultra rare trophies!! So you can definitely do it

I only have 71 ultra rare trophies and have Coda cleared?

The game never gets boring due to awesome music soundtrack + random levels layout.

You can stack the trophies for both all chars and all chars low%, so no need to do 2 all chars run. And for Coda u can get her trophy in a 20% easier way instead of a regular All-Zones mode: Phasing mode (a mode in DLC which permanetly gives you an overpowered item called Ring of Phasing).

Green bats rng trophy will come naturally while going for the platinum.

Keyboard is not required but recommended. You can do it all with a controller just how SlimSanta94, Danny_Johansen and Xenomorfi2 did it.

If you hate the D-pad: The in-game settings allows you to remap the movement buttons to the right side of the controller(triangle, square, O, X) .

[kostya_pooh]

No one talks too much about it, but the game has a training modes - for bosses, for npc’s. for example It can be useful if you got stack on some movement of any npc somewhere in 3 or 4 zone. I used this training room sometimes after watching my death replay to work on my faults.
Anyway you can play the zone separately, but keep in mind this ability. Can be helpful to watch closer at one of the enemies. It helps me in my way to plat... or not... idk)) this game is not for trophy hunters only, you need to like it anyway

[stealthlevel100]

Also i would like to mention that it is important to back up the save file after unlocking Coda (Coda is unlocked after an all 9 chars run) because the game sometimes crashes and corrupts your save file. Back up of the save file can be done on a USB or ps plus save cloud or even in-game cross play save.

Edited June 4, 2021 by stealthlevel100

[Cerlayjux]

On 6/3/2021 at 0:42 PM, stealthlevel100 said:

Yes, I highly recommend you start and plat the game because you have the Badland plat and 252 ultra rare trophies!! So you can definitely do it

I only have 71 ultra rare trophies and have Coda cleared

The game never gets boring due to awesome music soundtrack + random levels layout.

You can stack the trophies for both all chars and all chars low%, so no need to do 2 all chars run. And for Coda u can get her trophy in a 20% easier way instead of a regular All-Zones mode: Phasing mode (a mode in DLC which permanetly gives you an overpowered item called Ring of Phasing).

Green bats rng trophy will come naturally while going for the platinum.

Keyboard is not required but recommended. You can do it all with a controller just how SlimSanta94, Danny_Johansen and Xenomorfi2 did it.

If you hate the D-pad: The in-game settings allows you to remap the movement buttons to the right side of the controller(triangle, square, O, X) .

I've been seriously considering it. I actually watched @floriiss and his all character low % run and it was hectic. Not impossible but I'm sure the practice time was insane.

[Neef-GT5]

Winston Churchill would tell you that this game has nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat...

[Arcesius]

9 hours ago, Cerlayjux said:

I've been seriously considering it. I actually watched @floriiss and his all character low % run and it was hectic. Not impossible but I'm sure the practice time was insane.

 

It is. This is a quote from him describing how he went for this plat: 

 

 

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Started playing NecroDancer in February, 2016. The first two months I played mostly NecroDancer, but occasionally some other games in between. At that time I was playing through the game at my own pace. Nothing too serious about it. Simply enjoying the game. After those two months had past I had obtained all of the trophies except for the two hardest on the list (Coda and lowest). I'm estimating that took me about 150 hours.

At that point I decided to entirely focus on clearing Coda (Impossible, Right?). From here on things got serious. A lot more serious. Coda is very demanding and in order to beat this character I knew that I had to put a tremendous amount of time and effort into it. This was the moment where I got really obsessed with the game. At that time I played Crypt of the NecroDancer every single day for two months straight, approximately 4 to 5 hours on a daily basis. Some days more, some days less. Almost no variety with other games.

 

After those two months had past (approximately 300 hours of playtime) I had finally cleared Coda. One of my proudest gaming achievements to date, but the entire proces had me exhausted. I had seen so much NecroDancer in those months that whenever I closed my eyes I could still see myself playing the game (that was a joke btw. Not really, but you get the point). At that time I decided to take a break from the game. A long break. Like a reeeeeaaaaally long break. One year to be exact. 

 

When I came back to the game I focussed on the last trophy (Lowest of the low) for about 2.5 - 3 months, Probably around 400+ hours of playtime. This was also a very demanding and exhausting proces, but during this time I didn't go full crazy like I went with Coda. At that time I played some other games in between as well. Even though this last trophy on the list was also very stressful, at least having some variety with other games made the proces a little bit more enjoyable. Definitely better than what I had experienced during Coda. Thats a place and time where I would never want to go back to, honestly. It made me a different person. Not in a positive way.

 

 

 

Another achiever, k1ttyloaf, wrote the following: 

 

 

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Idk it took my about 6- 8 hours a day practice for almost a year on a keyboard. 

 

 

 

And that's what I've seen from other players as well. I was in SlimSanta's discord during the time when he was grinding lowest of the low, and I've been talking quite a bit with Miles while he was going for Coda during the past months. In both cases... they just needed to be constantly playing this game. Day in, day out. Didn't matter if I would go online during the day, in the evening, on a weekday, on a weekend.. they were there, grinding NecroDancer. Failing, trying again. And again. And again. 

 

And that's the thing with this game. Eventually you'll reach a point where playing 30 minutes each day doesn't do anything for you. Eventually you will have to play 2-3 hours every day if you want to see any improvement in your playing. (That's the point where I'm personally at, and the reason I have - for the time being - stoped playing this game). 

 

It won't necessarily consume your life. But it will most certainly require you to dedicate to it almost all of your available gaming time, for a very long time. 

 

 

That being said, it is an incredibly fun game with a ton of replayability. But, you need to be willing to put in the practice. You can get pretty much everything done trophy-wise in 150-200 hours, and will still have to practice for 700+ hours for the two remaining challenges. 

 

 

And as for the controller / keyboard thing... It definitely is not necessary, as has been proven by at least three platinum achievers thus far. I believe that Danny completed the game with a controller and in less than 800 hours (really fast, am I right?). 

[Danny_Johansen]

Since my name is mentioned a few times. From someone who earned the platinum with a controller, I highly recommend to NOT use a controller. You are playing with a massive handicap. The main reason for using a controller over a keyboard was the amount of money it costed back in 2016 to get it working and today there are much cheaper alternatives.

[Miles]

4 minutes ago, Danny_Johansen said:

 From someone who earned the platinum with a controller, I highly recommend to NOT use a controller. You are playing with a massive handicap. 

 

I agree with the controller being shit. I switched to keyboard about half a year ago and while its easier once you get used to it, I personally found it really hard to get used to since I have never played anything with a keyboard seriously. 

 

Apart from Coda and Bolt low% I prefer using the DPAD as you can sit in your chair with a controller in your lap more comfortably. 

[stealthlevel100]

Tbh I use a keyboard too(bought a used Xim Apex adapter) but I really support controller usage to encourage players that do not want to buy an additional peripheral. Smzthyy cleared Coda twice using a controller. Also, R2rokid cleared Lowest of the Low (all chars run low%) using a controller. Both of them mapped the movement controllers to XOtriangle square instead of Dpad in the game's settings.

Edited June 7, 2021 by stealthlevel100

[zulqarmessi]

On 5/30/2021 at 6:55 PM, Cerlayjux said:

Been eyeing this game for a while and want to try for the Plat but from what I can tell it will consume your entire life. I've also seen that apparently you need certain hardware like a keyboard to have a chance. Seems like pure madness to me. On the other hand the rarity is very attempting to go for, I just don't want my life to be consumed for a whole year or something.

Its not a game, its a HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[stealthlevel100]

I checked X-DAY1206's twitter. X-DAY1206 got all the necrodancer trophies using a controller without a keyboard. In the comments, someone asked Xday whether a keyboard was used, Xday replied by saying only a controller was used?. Also, my guess is that xday used the dpad for movement like SlimSanta94 because in the plat screenshot, dagger throw is mapped to X.

 

Edited June 8, 2021 by stealthlevel100

[xenomorfi2]

Let's say that the game requires really a lot of time if you want the plat (more or less 1000 hours) and you must play almost every day to see progress. Talking about my experience I played it for 3 or 4 months where I learned the basics of the game and how to play with every characters, after a little break I spent other 3 or 4 months to do everything else and get the platinum, I played almost every day for six or seven hours at day more or less (yeah it will take you some times). I cleared everything with a controller, I just moved movements on the right side of the pad, I will say that a keyboard would probably help you, but you can start with the pad and see how it goes!

Aside from trophies it is really a good and unique game, good luck if you will attempt to take the plat! 

[MohandGamer7]

After unlocking my coda trophy 2 days ago, I believe that anyone, no matter how bad is he, can complete this game and get that platinum. It will just take time to practice of course. Patient is the key because if you keep raging or lose your mind when you die a lot then this game isn’t for you (generally speaking). As for the keyboard, you can really get a cheap adapter for it (got my keyboard and adapter for about $40) so it’s not bad. However, you can play with a controller and get a general feeling of this game, maybe complete an all chars run with a controller before switching to a keyboard ( is what i did ?).

[SlimSanta94]

I've been debating whether or not to give my input to this for some time, so i'm just going to say a few things:

 

• Firstly, there's nothing I can really say that hasn't been said already regarding the difficulty. It is incredibly difficult but not impossible and that's the really important thing that you need to remember. Gamers need a very specific mindset when approaching this game, you need to be fully aware that progression will likely take some time and any frustration you might experience with the game needs to be taken in your stride. If you let setbacks affect you then your chances for the platinum are slim to none.
• Half of the battle is learning the game, there is a ridiculous amount of depth that needs to be understood in order to play at a top level. Some folks have played for thousands of hours and are still learning new things.
• People are going to tell you that you absolutely 100% need a keyboard to play this game. THIS IS FALSE. Though it makes playing the game significantly more comfortable for some, the game is possible to complete using a controller. The best advice I can give is to try every means of playing the game that you have access to and using what is most comfortable for you. Personally I did the entire game with a controller, I have severe tendonitis in my wrist so I was actually at a disadvantage playing with a keyboard in the short time that I tried to use one. It all comes down to preference, it's not a disadvantage to you if it's what you're more comfortable using.
• Contrary to what people might tell you, the group of folks currently attempting to get the platinum are very friendly and supportive. I don't recall any occasions where a full on manhunt has been started over someone not having a place on any of the in-game leaderboards. The in-game leaderboards are often used to catch cheaters who suddenly appear out of nowhere with every trophy, since the necrodancer community is so small, a portion of people know the game like the back of their hand and it's a pretty big deal when someone completes this game, they're very easy to spot. 

[Yukiko Miyamoto]

Welcome! Crypt is a Hardcore, Roguelike, Dungeon Crawler, Permadeath, RNG based, Rhythm game. No matter what, all your actions are tied to the beat, and all the monsters around you are also required to dance to the beat however, some have different movement patterns and may react slower or faster than other monsters. The first thing you should do is to turn off the Heart HUD, as it covering the beat bars in the middle of the screen, making it hard to tell if you are falling behind the song or dancing perfectly to the beat. There is song being played every floor depending on how fast the song is that is how fast you have to move to stay on beat, Offbeats are lifesavers as they allow you to slightly sync off the song without this all your inputs would have to be perfect depending on how fast the song is the offbeat will become more and more strict how many off sync inputs before ultimately dropping the beat, missed beats are insanely terrifying as it stops you from moving which can create unavoidable hits if you happen to miss a beat in front of a monster another thing that sucks is most of these characters all spawn with the one tile dagger which makes it, so you have to be face to face with the monster to even attack them one miss beat can create an unavoidable hit which either does barely any damage or so much damage it one shots your character. Successfully dancing to the beat and killing a certain amount of monsters will increase the amount of gold you get when killing a monster, which you can use to buy items from the singing shopkeeper, The shopkeeper also has a chance to be monstrous, which makes it so he attacks you straight away when you enter the shop, killing him makes all the items free, and the shopkeeper will be back to normal next floor. Once you complete three floors, it will throw you into a boss fight which is completely random each time and progressively becomes tougher to defeat the further you go into the crypt, Successfully defeating a boss without dropping the beat and without taking any damage will grant you a "Flawless Victory!" and spawns three chest near the exit which are 100% free. Choose wisely as you can only open one chest then the other chest will despawn. As for weapons, the spear is the best weapon in the game. It's a long range weapon, so for once you can keep your distance and poke enemies, could also be useful in case you drop a beat for once you can avoid an unavoidable hit with a long range weapon. Throwing your weapon can be a lifesaver if you don't feel like finding something to buffer the beat, or you have an unavoidable hit incoming. You could always throw your weapon to buffer the beat for two beats, but most of the time you shouldn't throw it anyways as you are wasting more time in the song, and you are throwing your only weapon. The current objective every floor is to defeat the mini boss in time before the song ends, not defeating the mini boss in time will have you fight the mini boss and a few monsters in a closed area at the start of the next floor. In total, there are nine characters plus one secret character. Every character is unique and is played very differently some are very easy, while others have some pretty deadly disadvantages. Good Luck!

Edited August 5, 2023 by Kimura Takahashi