Kal2210 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 @Chettlar any updates you’ve heard? They closed my BBB case because insomniac never responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chettlar Posted October 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2021 18 hours ago, Kal2210 said: @Chettlar any updates you’ve heard? They closed my BBB case because insomniac never responded. Vudix was away at some military thing for over a month. I asked him when he got back. He said he'd asked several people to look into it. "The definitive answer was that EA has positive control of the server status and ports. Insomniac can’t do anything at all." Given we've heard from both Insomniac customer support and someone who has contacts in the industry that not only do Insomniac not control the servers, but straight up had no idea about this happening, this seems to rest fully with EA. I don't know where you might be able to take this with BBB then. But I'd tell the BBB that we'd reached out, as someone I think mentioned in this thread(?), and Insomniac said they absolutely have no control over this. Which makes sense. Typically publishers, especially a company like EA, have control over servers. It would be pretty unusual as I understand it for the developer to hold the servers in a case like this. While you're on that I'll keep trying to plug away and see if I can find a way to ask him to ask his Insomniac contacts to talk to EA themselves and ask about a fix. That, and keep recruiting people to post on the forum asking for a fix. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiricy Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Chettlar said: Vudix was away at some military thing for over a month. I asked him when he got back. He said he'd asked several people to look into it. "The definitive answer was that EA has positive control of the server status and ports. Insomniac can’t do anything at all." Given we've heard from both Insomniac customer support and someone who has contacts in the industry that not only do Insomniac not control the servers, but straight up had no idea about this happening, this seems to rest fully with EA. I don't know where you might be able to take this with BBB then. But I'd tell the BBB that we'd reached out, as someone I think mentioned in this thread(?), and Insomniac said they absolutely have no control over this. Which makes sense. Typically publishers, especially a company like EA, have control over servers. It would be pretty unusual as I understand it for the developer to hold the servers in a case like this. While you're on that I'll keep trying to plug away and see if I can find a way to ask him to ask his Insomniac contacts to talk to EA themselves and ask about a fix. That, and keep recruiting people to post on the forum asking for a fix. Agree with you. We must mention EA to fix it. Edited October 23, 2021 by Tiricy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavelbagirov Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 For 10-20 people who want trophy I don’t think that EA will return servers for the dead platform. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GUDGER666 Posted October 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, pavelbagirov said: For 10-20 people who want trophy I don’t think that EA will return servers for the dead platform. Dead game, yes. Dead platform, hell no. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chettlar Posted October 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2021 4 hours ago, pavelbagirov said: For 10-20 people who want trophy I don’t think that EA will return servers for the dead platform. It wouldn't be that difficult for them to do. It just means someone needs to get off their ass and fix it. It's just hard in a complicated corporation structure to make things like that happen. PS3 isn't a dead platform and EA still supports a number of PS3 games. And it's not just people wanting the trophy. Multiple people have mentioned groups of four that want to literally play the game they bought, like, for fun. There's a bunch of us that also want trophies, but there are people who genuinely want to just play the game and had no warning it would go down. This isn't that unreasonable or unusual of a situation. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeidaraTV Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I saw someone got the "Ninja Style" Trophy on October 8, 2021 ... Hack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, DeidaraTV said: I saw someone got the "Ninja Style" Trophy on October 8, 2021 ... Hack? The 4 player trophy is unobtainable by legit means, thus any recent earners will be hackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bumperklever Posted October 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2021 On 23-10-2021 at 5:29 AM, Kal2210 said: @Chettlar any updates you’ve heard? They closed my BBB case because insomniac never responded. that's actually quite funny, so if company never responds they just close the case? what's the point of BBB then. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chettlar Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 7 hours ago, DeidaraTV said: I saw someone got the "Ninja Style" Trophy on October 8, 2021 ... Hack? Yeah, I double checked the servers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chettlar Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Sent a message to Insomniac support asking if they could talk with EA about either acquiring the servers or asking EA to put them up again, since as a consumer I can't do much with any weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chettlar Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) So. I've made a small, but interesting discovery about how the two assassination trophies work. I did a local offline game, with my alt account as the player 1, and my main account as player 2 via split-screen. I got up to a section where there were two guys shortly before the intended spot where there are 4 guys ready to be assassinated. Well in this two guys section I decided to try something. I lined up a random AI controlled character (Izzy) against a wall (well, not exactly, but when I got in her spot she moved to right behind the guy), I then used Dalton with my main account (second player via splitscreen) to get an assassination. While I was doing so, Izzy got the assassination too. Now, you cannot warp to a buddy while they are doing some sort of complex animation, like ladders, hanging, or doing assassinations. But regardless I spammed the button to warp to her and it let me as soon as she finished. The trophy for getting two at once in a co-op game popped!! Even though my alt account, as player one, did nothing and just stood back. But here's what's weirder, it popped for the alt account, I'm assuming because my alt was player one. It did not give me the trophy. Presumably I'll need to do it again with my main as player 1. So, encouraged, I decided to try it out the 4-player trophy. But I did notice that the wording on the achievement does say in a 4-player game. And sure enough, I got the timing as tight as I could. I had two up top as my mains, because the AI would not stay put unless they were the two down below. I had both controllers get an assassination, and then spammed the warp to the two in the middle. I never got it perfect, but I got it as close as I can just me by myself trying to use two controllers and hold Select + Face Button lol. Did not pop. So, sort of disappointing, but enlightening. You can use warp, and if they hadn't programmed it to look for four players, it actually would literally have worked. So the next roadblock would be somehow, someway, convincing the game four people are connected. Unfortunately I don't know a way of doing that. Edited October 31, 2021 by Chettlar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumperklever Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 well the last reply here is 2 weeks old. and from the the official ea thread it's getting to the 2 weeks as well. 8 will reply to it this evening to keep it alive I guess. They also just announced skate 2 servers shutting down, but still nothing on fuse. @Chettlar any news from valter (I thought that was his name)? @Tiricy since you have the extraordinary skills to find devs and message them to look into it (like what you did in hardware rivals and that one is fixed now). any chance you could do the same for fuse? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliar4 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) Guys dont contact Insomniac, because full power over Fuse have EA. Insomniac allready respond that they cant do anything. Servers are not broken so no one gonna fix them, theyre shutdown. They (EA) forgot to announce it, but they close it. Edited November 16, 2021 by Beliar4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai_SNAAAKE Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Beliar4 said: Guys dont contact Insomniac, because full power over Fuse have EA. Insomniac allready respond that they cant do anything. Servers are not broken so no one gonna fix them, theyre shutdown. They (EA) forgot to announce it, but they close it. They still violated their own rules, so we got to keep trying. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhil1234 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 4:02 AM, Tiricy said: Agree with you. We must mention EA to fix it. it's more asking them to turning it back on for a month with notice so everyone gets a fair chance to finish it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chettlar Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 8:52 AM, Bumperklever said: well the last reply here is 2 weeks old. and from the the official ea thread it's getting to the 2 weeks as well. 8 will reply to it this evening to keep it alive I guess. They also just announced skate 2 servers shutting down, but still nothing on fuse. @Chettlar any news from valter (I thought that was his name)? @Tiricy since you have the extraordinary skills to find devs and message them to look into it (like what you did in hardware rivals and that one is fixed now). any chance you could do the same for fuse? Vudix, and no, unfortunately he's got a lot of projects right now. Newer games that have never been completable are a bit more of a high priority than discontinued. I get it but it sucks. Doesn't mean he won't ping things but my pinging him isn't something I can just do constantly. I'm going to keep plugging away cuz man I really wanted to play this with my friends. I've only got one MAYBE that I could play with in person. And that's a huge logistical maybe. This sucks. I'm also getting spammed with people either on PSN and discord and even had someone on twitter, I guess because of my activity here, asking me about Fuse and I don't know why. I'm vocal about this but I'm just some guy. Obviously you guys asking here like the question above is fine but I've had like a bunch of randos asking me. Should probably private my stuff for a while because this is obnoxious, sorry. Also unrelated had a rando on PSN ask me if I wanted to play a...singleplayer game... using my real name...which is creepo. So. Yeah. No idea what's going on there. Also dealing with some family shit that's being aggravated by Thanksgiving so I'm kinda stressed out right now. Sucks. Mean time I'll keep asking Vudix and try asking him if there's something I can do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NajiLionheart Posted November 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2021 So the game now is listed as servers closed at june 1st 2021. This is November's report. https://www.ea.com/service-updates/a-h 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a3069namebke Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Well, looks like there is no chance this game is reopening. I guess the lawyers/ business executives said there was no harm in failing to warn. Looks like warning people of a shutdown is a courtesy rather than a requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdkiller Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 With the updated list on their page and months of silence. I think nothing can be done now. I'm surprised that with the mistake they made they didn't want to fix it. For those who already have the 4 person trophy, I suggest you invite a friend to your house to make the trophies in echelon mode. I could pass 2 levels in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NajiLionheart Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Nothing can be done now sadly. A great game, Insomniac didn't have any power over the online so when it comes To EA we all now know how things end. I will avoid Any EA games from now on I guess :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai_SNAAAKE Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Fuck EA. Sorry, I had to let it out. I'm actually pretty sad I don't live in US, I'd try to sue their asses, even if it was a waste of money, just to make this public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal2210 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Wow, that’s messed up. Print it directly on the packaging and then just completely ignore your duty to your customer. Such a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumperklever Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 https://answers.ea.com/t5/Other-EA-Games/FUSE-ERROR-EA-ORGINS-SERVERS/td-p/10405827/page/16 Quote Hey all, As I said back in June, this server delist was intentional and the game has unfortunately been sunset. The only issue we were investigating (and that was communicated) was the lack of an intended update to the Service Updates page. As the page has now been updated accordingly and I've had to keep removing posts from this thread that were in violation of the EA Community Guidelines I'll be closing this thread down now. Thanks. Alright, took them a whopping 6 months to investigate a web page. Guess the only thing these "community managers" can manage is their own bank account. Jeez. On the contrary though, I hoped that they learned there lesson and dont repeat the same shit in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_v0kA Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) I'm furious, I don't like the result of this. Something must happen to re-open this game again... Edited December 8, 2021 by Cpt_v0kA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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