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APCGrayLocked

Necrosphere
I knew it could happen this flag (because when there is a "strange trophy", istantaneously the first though on this site is "he hacked it"). So, i've installed the game on PSVITA and the patch (although the log doesn't say anything in regards of "glitched trophies") and i've played it. After 5 minutes (you can see the times), this trophy unlocked and i said "already? Strange" but i continue regardless the game. After i while i discovered that there were more torches and messages to lit and read (and i did lit/read them for pure completionism), but when i saw that the other achievers of this trophy (between the two stacks) had unlocked this trophy earlier, i though that this trophy was glitched in a good way, even because there are zero informations about this game on playstationtrophies, here or other sites. This is the only reason that i can give you. I can provide a screenshot of my final stats of base game and Tommy's Dream but apart from this, i don't know what i can do.

PS: obviously, i will not hide the game. I haven't cheated (again, i'm legit) so why should i do it?

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I honestly don't know what to make of this. Your signature instantly tells me it was probably best you quit being an active trophy hunter, yet you made a thread regarding a game you are flagged on.

 

The game cannot be 100 percent completed trophy wise because of a glitched trophy or two, based on what I was told.

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43 minutes ago, AJ_Radio said:

I honestly don't know what to make of this. Your signature instantly tells me it was probably best you quit being an active trophy hunter, yet you made a thread regarding a game you are flagged on.

 

The game cannot be 100 percent completed trophy wise because of a glitched trophy or two, based on what I was told.

 

I quitted the active trophy hunting, but that doesn't mean that i can't defend myself if accused of being a "cheater". The fun thing is that i would have (at 5am, when i was in my bed) cheated immediately a trophy (that i didn't know it was glitched) when i never had the intention to complete (trophy-wise) the game. Really smart, doesn't it?

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If your not a trophy hunter , why dispute it 🤷‍♂️

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APC is not a cheater! He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a cheater, but he is NOT a porn star!

 

Jokes aside, APC and me are not very friends, but I can tell is not a cheater.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, amurnin100 said:

If your not a trophy hunter , why dispute it 🤷‍♂️

...Because no-one would like to have a big red exclamation mark on his profile...

 

That's one thing. Second - this version of the game is marked as "PS4/PSV" while second "stack" only as PS4. Is that correct? Is the "PS4/PSV" version cross-play or is it a mistake?

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The report reason:
 

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You would have to collect all DVDS first to even unlock all the messages for the OCD trophies, so his order of getting OCD first is absolutely impossible. Adding to that is the fact that the OCD trophy is currently completely unavailable due to a severe bug the developer has yet to fix, so there are 2 solid reasons to take him off the list for cheated trophies.

 

 

Nobody shows up with the OCD trophy, but I do see in the report log there might be some few who has it and has been flagged because of it.

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2 hours ago, AJ_Radio said:

I honestly don't know what to make of this. Your signature instantly tells me it was probably best you quit being an active trophy hunter, yet you made a thread regarding a game you are flagged on.

 

Greg LeMond and Lance Armstrong are both 'retired' - but I know which one I would rather be remembered as...

 

Just because the punishment is no longer one that will have a material affect on the person's activities, doesn't mean that fighting to have the stain removed is invalid.

You never heard of posthumous commutations of sentences, for example?

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Well, I wrote and deleted a post about this earlier because it was pretty close to naming and shaming, but there's something unsettling going on here and it has compelled me to ask an important question:

 

Why is PsnP deleting entire dispute threads?

 

As I was writing the first post I happened to notice OP's signature for the first time (which was also deleted in the last hour).  He referenced his previous Arkham Knight dispute, then it said "suddenly gone."  I was trying to figure out where I remembered this user from, and that was definitely where!  I remember that dispute was kind of a mess, but the flag looks like it was eventually removed.  About a month ago, there was another dude on here that had a messy dispute, where his buddies from discord came on and basically bullied B1rvine into lifting the flag.  THAT whole thread eventually got deleted and the flag removed as well.  I think that was about Arkham Knight as well, but probably more of a coincidence.

 

What bothers me now is that I googled "necrosphere ocd unobtainable," and the second result was a dispute thread on here from 1 of the 2 users on the other version who have this trophy.  I clicked on the link and it said not found, because THAT thread had been deleted too!  Ultimately his (yes I'm assuming gender here, you would too if you saw the username) flag was lifted as well.  This information could be pretty useful in the future, I know I read past disputes all the time when I see new ones.  Why are we deleting these disputes?

 

I agree with Lucantoo:  OP is kind of a jerk towards PsnProfiles.  I think both of you are being misleading, since APC has mentioned you guys are friends in real life and could go to your house rather than play online, and both of you have games this year that you played at the same time.  I think the whole thing is shady, but there was actual evidence to lift this flag at one point and it's been erased?  Maybe I'm missing something?

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1 minute ago, FeelTheCosmos said:

Why is PsnP deleting entire dispute threads?

 

Because the disputers often ask to have their dispute threads hidden because it shows up when people to internet searches for their user names.

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Ok, what about when it's relevant to another dispute?  Is that handled privately then?  Because 2 of these are pretty relevant if you ask me...

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1 minute ago, FeelTheCosmos said:

Ok, what about when it's relevant to another dispute?  Is that handled privately then?  Because 2 of these are pretty relevant if you ask me...

 

The Cheater Removers have ways to make and keep notes about games and disputes they share together. They don't just go off of faulty memory on these things. 

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Well, hopefully they have notes about that previous Necrosphere dispute then where the same issue was lifted.  Didn't look like MMDE was referencing it in this earlier post, so maybe someone else keeps the notes?

 

FWIW, I know you guys have to go with the larger environment decision, but if you act like a fool in a forum you should probably think about that before you post, right?  I mean, it's not like you're posting your home address or anything, and I personally feel that the knowledge gained from these disputes is far more valuable than the slight tarnishing of a username from their own actions.  Anyway, you do you, what's relevant to this dispute is:

 

There was a dispute in December 2020 about this exact issue and the flag was eventually lifted.

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1 minute ago, FeelTheCosmos said:

FWIW, I know you guys have to go with the larger environment decision, but if you act like a fool in a forum you should probably think about that before you post, right?  I mean, it's not like you're posting your home address or anything, and I personally feel that the knowledge gained from these disputes is far more valuable than the slight tarnishing of a username from their own actions. 

 

You seem to think these disputes are for the members here. They're not. They're for the Disputer and the Cheater Removers. They're public as a courtesy and for people to offer help when needed. The knowledge gained is retained with the Cheater Removers even if something is removed from public view.

 

And yes, people should actually think before they post, but this isn't slashdot, where there is no editing or removing posts. People are allowed to edit or remove their posts here if they choose. To tell them they can't because some other member wants to have it available when they want it, instead of noting it somewhere else if they feel it's so valuable is not right.

 

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No, I understand that the disputes aren't here for the members, but the leaderboards they're protecting sure are.  Anyway, thanks for the clarification, I was indexing all 3700 of these in a spreadsheet anyway, I'll just copy them all into a word doc as well.  Or would that violate someone's privacy too?

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1 hour ago, FeelTheCosmos said:

No, I understand that the disputes aren't here for the members, but the leaderboards they're protecting sure are.  Anyway, thanks for the clarification, I was indexing all 3700 of these in a spreadsheet anyway, I'll just copy them all into a word doc as well.  Or would that violate someone's privacy too?

If its on the Internet that anyone can access without credentials its not private. Some disputes here are private though like when Hakoom got flagged I didn't see any dispute for some reason so I guess its allowed.

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It might have something to do with GDPR, but not 100% sure, unless he’s request google to not keep his details in their search engine under the right to be forgotten.

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I don't keep them for disputes that much anyway, I keep them for reporting.  I have a lot of records on here and when someone beats one of them it's easy to see if it's cheated or not.  However, sometimes it's hard to prove it given the rules of the leaderboards, but I can almost always look at the person's whole trophy list and find 3 games to flag, so the one that can't be proven gets removed anyway.  That's why I have the spreadsheet, so I can cross-reference games I don't know about with games that are frequently flagged.  The history is the most important thing in this case, because clean leaderboards are VERY important to me.  Off topic again, I know.  I need to just log out and stay logged out, especially on Fridays :)

 

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Posted (edited)

5 hours ago, Lucantoo said:

APC is not a cheater! He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a cheater, but he is NOT a porn star!

 

Jokes aside, APC and me are not very friends, but I can tell is not a cheater.

 

You ass!. I love you too, Antoine. <3

 

5 hours ago, MMDE said:

Nobody shows up with the OCD trophy, but I do see in the report log there might be some few who has it and has been flagged because of it.

 

when i saw the achievers of this trophy on that day (24th June), there was another achiever of my ps4/psvita stack and 2/3 achievers of the ps4 only stack and like me, all of them have the trophy unlocked immediately and not after discovering the 20 DVDs. Is for this that i though that this trophy was glitched in a good way (as i wrote in the first post) and continue to play onward regardless.

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Posted (edited)

sorry for the double post, but i decided to replay the game on one of my secondary accounts on ps4, to see if the trophy unlocks earlier again. i will record a video with the webcam and i will upload it on my YT channel in case the "unlocking" happens.

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ok, i've tried for 1h to unlock the trophy as i've did on PSVITA (by just playing normally) but with no luck. As a my friend said, maybe the trophy unlocks only on PSVITA. And i don't have a 2nd PSVITA to spare. So, anyone is willing to test the thing, so that everyone (not just me) can benefit from this discovery?

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Posted (edited)

I see some new people "got" the trophy now. Last year... They also just happen to have a lot of extremely rare vita trophies.

4 hours ago, APCGrayLocked said:

ok, i've tried for 1h to unlock the trophy as i've did on PSVITA (by just playing normally) but with no luck. As a my friend said, maybe the trophy unlocks only on PSVITA. And i don't have a 2nd PSVITA to spare. So, anyone is willing to test the thing, so that everyone (not just me) can benefit from this discovery?

 

@NekoRave

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29 minutes ago, MMDE said:

I see some new people "got" the trophy now. Last year... They also just happen to have a lot of extremely rare vita trophies.

 

@NekoRave

NekoRave has left the site so won't respond to your query.

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1 hour ago, HuntingFever said:

NekoRave has left the site so won't respond to your query.

 

Eh, he visited 8 hours ago. lulz

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