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GTA The Trilogy: The Definitive Edition (November 11, 2021)

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I was playing SA earlier, man its rough haha, but it still plays in parts fairly well. The cars control ok, but X to accelarate is god awful!

 

The menu's navigate weird and Target instead.of Waypoint sounds odd.

 

Can't see them addimg Fast Travel in, but would love it to speed things up. Takes an age in SA doing missions driving from A-B with no FT.

 

We don't know how easy we have it these days until you play games like these.

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I sure hope there is an option to use classic controls. I'm all for remastering my favorite games, but don't change the gameplay!

I'd love to go through and get all the trophies for all three games again, but if I can't use the original controls, I'll probably just continue to replay the previous versions

 

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1 hour ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

Mass murder innocent people (including blacks and women) in every way imaginable, rob them, beat them up and commit every crime you can think of? Sure, let's do it!

Show a 150 years old flag most people wouldn't even notice? Woah let's not overdo it now.

 

It wasn't necessarily removed because people will be offended.

 

The flag has gained a lot of attention since the game was released. It could just be because it would change how the character was meant to come across. Nowadays wearing or displaying the flag sends a strong statement about what kind of person you are, and one that is now known around the world. It isn't just associated with gun enthusiasts, but racists, white supremacists, Trump supporters etc. The game was made by a bunch of British developers in 2002 who may not have known what the signfiicance of the flag was.

 

And perhaps Rockstar just doesn't want to display that flag in their games, mockingly or not. Although I'd argue there was no mocking going on here.

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As long as they fix the awful pop in that the PS2 versions had. I'll be happy

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These games are ancient at this point so there's not much they could of done for the visuals unless it was a full blown remake which isn't the case. Doesn't look bad at all but ain't no way I'm paying 80$ for it. 

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The big question I think we all have is, can you buy them separately? I am pretty sure there are very few who absolutely love all 3.

I only really like GTA3, most people like Vice City but I see some people here saying San Andreas if their favourite. It seems a bit of a con (in a way) that you have to buy the lot but I guess it makes business sense, how else can you request full price for 3 old but remastered (twice) games?

 

Another big question is are there going to 3 platinums or just one. That's a lot of gameplay is you need to play all three games.

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I played all the gta's when i was a kid. I cant wait to relive my childhood *current midlife crisis*

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59 minutes ago, enaysoft said:

The big question I think we all have is: can you buy them separately? I'm pretty sure there are very few who absolutely love all three.

I only really like GTA III, most people like Vice City but I see some people here saying San Andreas is their favourite. It seems a bit of a con (in a way) that you have to buy the lot, but I guess it makes business sense - how else can you request full price for three old but remastered (twice) games?

 

Another big question is: are there going to be three platinums or just one? That's a lot of gameplay if you need to play all three games.

 

Given that only III is coming to PS Now and only SA is coming to Game Pass, I'd say "yes" to the first question and the former option to the last question.

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9 minutes ago, enaysoft said:

As with most censorship, these changes are pointless.

 

Who is this change helping? who is it helping to not offend? Just seems like a weird thing to worry about.

 

That flag was still inside of and on sale, in a game available only up to only few weeks ago and has been available for 2 decades and nobody seemed to flip out or got offended before now.

 

Especially since all the killing and murdering that each of these games contains, that stuff is still intact.

Are we at the stage now where words and pictures are genuinely more terrifying than actual simulated violence? Seems like it.

 

I literally said it may not be anything to do with offence. That's your own assumption.

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Just now, Shadiochao said:

 

I literally said it may not be anything to do with offence. That's your own assumption.

 

No, but that is literally the problem. We all know, or can guess why it has been removed.

 

These days the fear of offending someone is often worse than someone actually getting offended. Self censorship.

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15 minutes ago, enaysoft said:

No, but that is literally the problem. We all know, or can guess why it has been removed.

 

These days the fear of offending someone is often worse than someone actually getting offended. Self censorship.

 

You can guess but it doesn't mean you're any closer to the truth 

 

"We at Rockstar have gained a deeper understand of what this flag represents than we did in 2002 and want no part in having this filth in our games" is a much more realistic reason than worrying about the 5 people who will notice it and care. And it's nothing to do with censorship or not wanting to offend, but rather Rockstar feeling they'd outgrown stuff like this.

 

If you start with the idea that this censorship made to avoid offending and get angry about it, then you'll be blind to other possibilities becuse you're so focused on something that may not actually be the reason. Who knows why they removed it? I don't, and there could be reasons I haven't even thought of.

 

But also, why is not wanting to unnecessarily offend people actually a bad thing? I don't care about the flag but what value does it bring to the game that it's worth hurting people over?

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a remaster for GTA 4 ( Without the Online Trophies Nonsense! ) , Liberty City Story, Vice City Story and Chinatown would be lovely and far more welcoming than these three that I played to death by now.

3 hours ago, RedDevil757 said:

As long as they fix the awful pop in that the PS2 versions had. I'll be happy

 

I believe the PC ports of the trilogy have fixed the pop in's.

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5 hours ago, BrandedBerserk said:

These games are ancient at this point so there's not much they could of done for the visuals unless it was a full blown remake which isn't the case. Doesn't look bad at all but ain't no way I'm paying 80$ for it. 

Game costs 59,99 and is even crossbuy (regarding to the ps store site)

 

1 hour ago, yellowwindow7 said:

a remaster for GTA 4 ( Without the Online Trophies Nonsense! ) , Liberty City Story, Vice City Story and Chinatown would be lovely and far more welcoming than these three that I played to death by now.

 

I believe the PC ports of the trilogy have fixed the pop in's.

I think all platforms willl have increased draw distance.

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I would like to see this remaster sell like shit.

I don't like the route Rockstar is taking as well how videogames are devolving.

 

And it was that hard to put both Stories games on the entire package? Ffs I hate the state of Videogames

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20 minutes ago, ChecoMayor said:

I would like to see this remaster sell like shit.

I don't like the route Rockstar is taking as well how videogames are devolving.

 

And it was that hard to put both Stories games on the entire package? Ffs I hate the state of Videogames

 

You could hope that. OR.

 

We could all hope it sells very well, and gives Rockstar a reason to remaster or remake Bully and maybe Stories :) 

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3 hours ago, westersburg said:

Game costs 59,99 and is even crossbuy (regarding to the ps store site)

 

I think all platforms willl have increased draw distance.

In Canada its 80$ which is why I said that. 

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5 hours ago, Shadiochao said:

"We at Rockstar have gained a deeper understand of what this flag represents than we did in 2002 and want no part in having this filth in our games" is a much more realistic reason than worrying about the 5 people who will notice it and care. And it's nothing to do with censorship or not wanting to offend, but rather Rockstar feeling they'd outgrown stuff like this.

 

Oh there is A LOT of filth in their games. Is luring hookers in your car to murder them not filth? Don't get me wrong, I love the GTA games but there are many people out there who find the content absolutely vile and revolting. And I kind of get where they are coming from. But drawing the line at a flag with everything else going on in their games is really funny. Besides, who knows what will be unacceptable in 10 more years? There is apparently transphobic content in GTA5 journos complained about. There is a jewish mob with lots of stereotypes in GTA4. Somebody out there was certainly made uncomfortable by that. If Rockstar stays consistent, surely they will need to remove things like that in future ports and remasters. Because why stop at a flag?

 

5 hours ago, Shadiochao said:

But also, why is not wanting to unnecessarily offend people actually a bad thing? I don't care about the flag but what value does it bring to the game that it's worth hurting people over?

 

I watched a documentary about the history of GTA recently. A really solid, 2 hours video. Anyway, before the release of one their older title, idk maybe it was GTA3 or something, there was a huge outcry from concerned parents and lots of controversy about the game in the media. But instead of rowing back rockstar decided to double down and made their PR as offensive as possible and it worked out well for them. If they avoided unnecessarily offending people then there would be no GTA as we know it today. They basically pushed the borders of what was acceptable in video games.  

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Unfortunately the amazon preorder is only available in America so far. It isn't listed in any EU amazon site i checked.

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5 minutes ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

Oh there is A LOT of filth in their games. Is luring hookers in your car to murder them not filth?

 

That in particular is all in the mind of the player. You can kill any person in the game, and some of them have a role that causes them to do certain actions, like getting in your car. If you view that as luring them to kill them, that's just your roleplaying because the game makes no distinction between killing an NPC who is lured or not, or whether they're a prostitute or not. And either way you're likely to be punished for doing so, by being given a wanted level. 

 

5 minutes ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

I love the GTA games but there are many people out there who find the content absolutely vile and revolting

 

I may be wrong, but GTA games almost exclusively portray issues like that in a negative or insulting light. Aside from things like killing and crime, which is obviously just a staple of western media and theme of the games themselves.
 

The problem here may lie with the character, who in the context of the game is a likeable guy, and ally of the main character. That could be seen as condoning use of the flag by presenting it in their game in a neutral or even positive light and without acknowledging its problems. I'm not even sure if racism is a subject that ever gets much attention in the games, and this flag kind of falls under the same category. 

 

5 minutes ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

But drawing the line at a flag with everything else going on in their games is really funny. Besides, who knows what will be unacceptable in 10 more years? There is apparently transphobic content in GTA5 journos complained about. There is a jewish mob with lots of stereotypes in GTA4. Somebody out there was certainly made uncomfortable by that. If Rockstar stays consistent, surely they will need to remove things like that in future ports and remasters. Because why stop at a flag?

 

Who said they were stopping at the flag? I don't think there's been any indication that future remasters will remain unchanged, and we don't even know the full extent of the changes in these ones. If anything I'd expect more things in this and future games to be altered. 

 

Although I'm not really sure what it would mean to be consistent, because we don't know the reason for the flag's removal. The reason may be so specific it wouldn't apply to any other content in their games.

 

And again, what does the flag actually bring to the game that is worth offending people for, if that turns out the be the case? It's just a texture on a character's shirt that isn't acknowledged at all and not really something I'd consider to be worth keeping.

 

5 minutes ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

there was a huge outcry from concerned parents and lots of controversy about the game in the media. But instead of rowing back rockstar decided to double down and made their PR as offensive as possible and it worked out well for them. If they avoided unnecessarily offending people then there would be no GTA as we know it today. They basically pushed the borders of what was acceptable in video games.  

 

Is that unnecessarily offending people? Seems like they were fighting back against unfair criticism. It's media for adults, and children shouldn't be legally obtaining the game. If children were able to get the game it was through methods outside of their control, since they did everything they were able to prevent that. But in any case I don't think it's the same as taking or appearing to take an offensive stance on such a sensitive issue.

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This censorship nonsense talk in this thread is just amusing.

 

I hate censorship groups with a burning passion. Often they go beyond just shielding little children from inappropriate content, they wish to remove content for everybody, or censor it to the point where people start to fight back against the censorship groups.

 

Censorship groups are only interested in their own interests. I cannot stress this enough.

 

Basically every GTA game from GTA III going forward has had some stereotype or element that has offended people. This is nothing new. Most of you guys complaining about this crap were literally kids when these games first came out. And as far as legally obtaining GTA games according to what @Shadiochao is saying, retail stores were already restricting these games away from children back in the 2000s. The ESRB ratings were there, a lot of people were aware of the violent content the GTA games had, and children usually couldn't get their hands on it. Most children got their hands on it because an older member of their family or a friend just happened to give the game to them.

 

That being said, I'm very disappointed in Rockstar as of late. It's clear they don't care about making new IPs as much as they are remastering an old collection of games that practically everybody who gave a damn has played at this point.

 

Their business executives and publishers they got are absolute baboons. They won't re-release Vice City and Liberty City Stories. They probably will never make a sequel to either Bully or make a new Manhunt game because either game would be too controversial for today's audience.

 

Rockstar went from taking risks and pushing the standard forward to taking the easy way out. Cash in on Shark Cards in GTA Online while they decide to release GTA V yet again for the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

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I'm in on the physical for the trilogy.  I think the graphical improvements look interesting, more than I honestly expected.  It's been such a long time since I played these and the previously released direct ports weren't enough to get me on board again.  It'd be cool if they made some QOL gameplay adjustments too.

 

"Censorship" aside, it's always a double edged sword changing the look of classic games.  Most people will look at it and go "damn, that's a solid upgrade" and maybe dive in again if they feel like it.  A few pessimists will hate anything that doesn't look like the originals (which they probably also hated), but would also hate it if they just did another set of upscaled direct ports... basically just hate everything.

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