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Social Media - Why I Can't Stand It

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id heard somewhere that people are very tribal. we can only handle in the neighborhood of 100 people, social media has expanded that to new heights and most can't cope with the fact that they're not compatible with 99 percent of the population. we see most of them as horrible pieces of trash and lash out at them cause they look or think differently, and they lash out at us as well. make a joke, someone who the joke doesn't even pertain to get upset for them. its sad a pathetic but thats the way it is now. everyones feeling are getting hurt and they think that matters. my feelings matter to only those closest members of my tribe. same for everyone else. i dont care what offends joe down the street cause he aint in my tribe. i think the sooner people remember the the world in a nutshell is a horrible place and no one cares what they think or feel we'd all be alot better off. 

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33 minutes ago, funboy1246 said:

id heard somewhere that people are very tribal. we can only handle in the neighborhood of 100 people, social media has expanded that to new heights and most can't cope with the fact that they're not compatible with 99 percent of the population. we see most of them as horrible pieces of trash and lash out at them cause they look or think differently, and they lash out at us as well. make a joke, someone who the joke doesn't even pertain to get upset for them. its sad a pathetic but thats the way it is now. everyones feeling are getting hurt and they think that matters. my feelings matter to only those closest members of my tribe. same for everyone else. i dont care what offends joe down the street cause he aint in my tribe. i think the sooner people remember the the world in a nutshell is a horrible place and no one cares what they think or feel we'd all be alot better off. 

 

That's how it's always been, but because of how slow the internet was back then and the steps you had to take to even connect online (remember dial-up and old DSL), that filtered a lot of assholes.

 

Facebook was great, I used it back in 2006 when it was essentially a small time social media site aimed at young college kids looking to get their start in life. Then the radicals took over and once everybody and their grandma got on it, Facebook lost a lot of its identity. Mark Zuckerberg realized he could get a lot more exposure and become a billionaire out of his platform by marketing it to the masses.

 

I still have a close circle of family and friends. A lot of friends have come and gone over the years, but I still maintain a few relationships with them. Having that person to person interaction is something no internet activity could ever emulate. Interpersonal communication is ever more important.

 

Nowadays, we got a new generation of young people who are bred into being hateful beings who are being taught to hate each other. I've gone on some Discord groups with mostly young teenagers, and it is truly depressing what some of them think about their future.

 

I grew up during the so called "golden age" of the internet, and I can relate a lot to that video as I've used pretty much every platform that was mentioned on it. Social media is just crap now.

 

Maybe sooner rather than later, we'll go back to what we were thinking before the internet. Keep everything to ourselves, and fuck what anybody else thinks. Seeing a guy in his 40s bitch his heart out on social media, that's pretty sad to see.

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As my name suggests, I'm a young guy who obviously hasn't lived through this "golden age" as you describe (I remember that internet access was possible on the street where I lived around 2006, so having internet at home was something that it took a while, especially in Brazil, and also personal computers were an expensive thing to own) I remember I didn't like the internet, I tried to use it as a child but I found it very boring although I liked computer games and video games. so i would say my "internet golden age" would be from 2009-10 which might be laughable for you lol but at that time i was about 12, so now 23 i feel nostalgic for the beginning of the last decade , when I was obsessed with online games and internet friends, it was all very new to me. the world has changed absurdly in a decade, in an exponential out of scale, I'm not just talking about moore's law but culture in general, like the obsession and hyperfocus that young people have with politics today, as everyone wants being right all the time and people getting offended all the time, and I could go on for hours talking about it. I believe that for someone older, everything that is happening nowadays is surreal, because the amount of information is very high; we're absorbing tons of information all the time, including trifles and silly things from social media or etc, radicalism coming from all sides, people begging for attention in every way, (I'd like to talk about women, but would probably be called misogynist or incel, so I will limit my speech to that). there are studies pointing to ongoing changes in our cerebral amygdala, which is the area responsible for structuring and dealing with our emotions and sociability, such as anxiety and other topics fundamental to human behavior. that is, we are living in an era of intense abrupt change, our brains are violently adapting to millions of stimuli, such as extreme exposure on social networks, instant ease in generating satisfaction (which generates problems of pleasure and happiness, which generates addictions and depression) we are evolving on a scale that has possibly never occurred in the entire history of civilization. although we have greater security, well-being, medicine today than in the middle ages, for example, the dangers are now different, the evils are deeper, as they are mostly derived from our mind and not from the outside world (Obviously I'm talking in a simplistic and general way about the life of an average human being, not extreme cases like what's going on in Afghanistan). while the internet is a literal reality (potentially we spend more hours of the day in front of screens than sleeping, so it is a physical level reality) while we have distractions and interrupting stimuli at all times, there are also the "true" reality of people out there, the world, poverty, wars, hunger. that is, it is absolutely chaotic and disturbing if you look deeply into the human condition per se. Your topic is quite broad and has the potential for an extremely interesting conversation in many ways, the things I said at first might seem off-topic to someone who doesn't pay attention, but in fact they aren't. Things are like that for a reason, things work and they are for a number of reasons, there is logic, there is an explanation for how our condition and psyche act. The world has changed, and so have our minds. new generations of children are born computer and internet specialists, spending their childhood years in front of screens. it is obvious that this would cause changes in the average human behavior and in the structuring of society itself. Coincidentally, today I started watching a mini series called "Clickbait" on Netflix. the series is not an indispensable work of art, but the topics covered are interesting, such as: Catfishing, "cancel culture", the rotten side of social networks such as tiktok, etc.
I experienced a less radical era, I would say an in-between era between the "golden age" and this contemporary rot, and I also miss my adolescence and innocent times. There are other things I would like to say, but I will "brake" my speech, my general point of view has been contributed, thanks for the excellent topic 😁✌️

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To try to make this a little short, my 68 year old father worked at Hewlett Packard back in the 1990s and it was him that exposed me to the internet. He taught me how to use that old dial-up internet back in around 1996 and ever since then I have used the internet on a mostly regular basis. So truthfully, I've been an internet user for about 25 years now, so I have seen how it has changed and evolved over the years and decades.

 

We not only came up in different backgrounds @kevao97, we also came up in entirely different cultures. The United States picked up the internet age during its infancy, and I was one of the lucky few kids who could actually get on it. I picked up on the internet before a lot of other kids did. I still remember when Geocities was a big thing, and websites ranged from downright horrible to artistically brilliant. You never knew what you were going to find on the internet back then. Because of how horrendously slow dial-up and DSL were, you often sat there for 1 - 2 minutes just to get a single webpage to load. But it was fun. It was a whole new world for us kids growing up, and the internet back then eventually shaped how I would behave and act as a person.

 

I'm a true Millennial. Some people like yourself are much younger than me, there is definitely an age gap between us which I feel affects how we think and behave in the grand scheme of things.

 

I don't appreciate the internet today. It's a rotten system governed by the massive corporations, Google being the most prominent. I grew up when the internet was a free flowing center of data and information. You were allowed to say a lot of things that would probably get you censored on the internet today. For so long I thought about starting up a YouTube channel for myself, but I feel the days of being expressive and free on that platform are long gone. Small time YouTubers have literally next to no chance to move on for themselves at this point in 2021. I've also noticed too that YouTube generally suggests to you videos that have millions of views from well established YouTubers. There is no more featuring the little guy as the old YouTube was. The guidelines keep changing and every time YouTube changes them they just get worse.

 

I'll be sure to check out "Clickbait" on Netflix. If you experienced a less radical era, I experienced an era of wonder.

 

Maybe I'm just getting older and I'm being nostalgic for the hell of it. But I no longer feel passionate for the internet like I used to. There are still plenty of great websites and plenty of great people for me to find. Yet so many of us are getting tossed and turned in the turmoil that is reality and politics.

 

Thanks for the comment man. Appreciate it.

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9 minutes ago, AJ_Radio said:

I'm a true Millennial. Some people like yourself are much younger than me, there is definitely an age gap between us which I feel affects how we think and behave in the grand scheme of things.

 

even so, there is similarity in our thinking in some ways! 🙂

 

11 minutes ago, AJ_Radio said:

I don't appreciate the internet today. It's a rotten system governed by the massive corporations, Google being the most prominent. I grew up when the internet was a free flowing center of data and information. You were allowed to say a lot of things that would probably get you censored on the internet today.

the only way to resolve this is with free market and decentralization, which are topics that can be seen as controversial by many people, however the maintenance of freedom is essential for the overall quality of things and life (although that solidifies my argument is not specifically this motive but ethics) and what we see today is a monopolization of the internet, authoritarianism and control. some say that the internet on a surface level is free, but this is bullshit, we live literally being controlled, there are few really free environments around here, freedom is responsible for the best things that have ever been created or that will come to exist, all form of control is a limiting factor for our abilities and healthy life.

 although this may be overly political it is unavoidable for me to say. there are people who are ignorant to say that we live in an era of free trade and freedom, and will argue that what we live is ethical and correct, which is deeply sad and pitiful to me, the main point of your complaint about the internet being this shit today is one of the proofs that giant corporations control don't bring good things.

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People can use the Internet basically all day, every day, and it's attached to their hands at all times now, making people go a bit crazy in the process

 

I remember when Internet used to cost by the minute! Going on the Internet for a few hours was like going to the cinema, you didn't waste your time with it, and you certainly weren't wasting your time on social media, as of course it didn't exist. Grab a ton of e-mails, quickly disconnect and then concentrate on replying to them, in peace and also in full concentration.

 

I miss the good old days, perhaps it was 1998 or 1999.

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Yeah, I’m not a fan of social media either. I’m 20 and people my age find it so weird I never had social media, at best forums like these but I’ve backed off from it a lot. The news makes me sad so I avoid it and I could not care less about someone’s life so I don’t have Facebook or Snapchat or anything similar. TikTok is just cringe and at the beginning I understand it was kid friendly and all fun and jokes but it has become a toxic mess, like any other social media becomes.

 

I have made a Twitter account to follow anime and manga news but stopped because it didn’t really bring me anything, deleted the app the same day.

 

I think it’s just better to avoid everything that really isn’t all that important. I looked at Youtube yesterday and was just disgusted with what I saw. PewDiePie is number 1 and has done horrible things and is forgiven in a second and he’s grown arrogant too, making comments like “I don’t need to say my name anymore cause everyone knows me”, the audacity. His best friend Ken exploits his girlfriend in his thumbnails. My classmates talk about the next “Youtuber box fight”, who are all assholes and I hear people talk about male streamers who feel no shame showing their gf’s body on their site to get more views. It’s just fucking shameful. Logan and Jake Paul do not deserve anything imo but there they are, swimming in millions and having fame, people support them and they’re absolute assholes. Ugh, it’s just disappointing and all what I wrote here, does not matter; Not one bit.
 

Just do things that you enjoy, don’t care what anyone else does or says and mind your own business, that’s what I started doing and feel much better. It’s like a relief. Social media can go fuck itself.

 

@AJ_Radio Here is another good documentary about social media on Netflix: The Social Dilemma. It’s very interesting, you should check it out. They talk about Facebook, Google, how search engines work and algorthythmslsh idk how to spell it and I’m in a hurry right now haha, they talk about “how it got to this point”. Interview has people who actually worked for Google and Facebook etc. Enjoy

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I miss Tumblr.  Like I avoided that place like the plague.  But all the butt babies were there.  Then the banks wanted in on that, but they got rid of the porn and Tumblr collapsed and all the butt babies spread out.  And they're on Twitter and the like.  Twitter used to be fun.  But that's like what you were saying about corporations having too much say in the internet.  Like they were going to get rid of it on OnlyFans.  I deleted my Facebook a few years ago.  Twitter is the only thing I keep.  And I stay in my little bubble over there.

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1 hour ago, kevao97 said:

the only way to resolve this is with free market and decentralization, which are topics that can be seen as controversial by many people, however the maintenance of freedom is essential for the overall quality of things and life (although that solidifies my argument is not specifically this motive but ethics) and what we see today is a monopolization of the internet, authoritarianism and control. some say that the internet on a surface level is free, but this is bullshit, we live literally being controlled, there are few really free environments around here, freedom is responsible for the best things that have ever been created or that will come to exist, all form of control is a limiting factor for our abilities and healthy life.

 although this may be overly political it is unavoidable for me to say. there are people who are ignorant to say that we live in an era of free trade and freedom, and will argue that what we live is ethical and correct, which is deeply sad and pitiful to me, the main point of your complaint about the internet being this shit today is one of the proofs that giant corporations control don't bring good things.

 

There are some safe havens out there. PSNP included, despite the drama I may have caused involving discussions of easy trophies. Whatever. Doesn't really matter.

 

While I have a freedom that I can access many different websites, a majority of people today just follow the same 10 websites, all social media and all corporate owned. Thus, it is far easier to brainwash the sheep, because they are the most profitable.

 

Corporations really do ruin many good things.

 

1 hour ago, enaysoft said:

People can use the Internet basically all day, every day, and it's attached to their hands at all times now, making people go a bit crazy in the process

 

I remember when Internet used to cost by the minute! Going on the Internet for a few hours was like going to the cinema, you didn't waste your time with it, and you certainly weren't wasting your time on social media, as of course it didn't exist. Grab a ton of e-mails, quickly disconnect and then concentrate on replying to them, in peace and also in full concentration.

 

I miss the good old days, perhaps it was 1998 or 1999.

 

We didn't have a minute by minute cost of the internet back then, at least not that I was aware of in the United States. I had dial-up, the slow 56k internet connection where it took you as long as five minutes sometimes to load up a single webpage. There was no regulation back then either. My time on the internet was very limited, but I remember it being a great deal of fun.

 

Once you disconnected, you were completely off. WI-FI access was basically a pipedream.

 

1 hour ago, LoveInHell said:

Yeah, I’m not a fan of social media either. I’m 20 and people my age find it so weird I never had social media, at best forums like these but I’ve backed off from it a lot. The news makes me sad so I avoid it and I could not care less about someone’s life so I don’t have Facebook or Snapchat or anything similar. TikTok is just cringe and at the beginning I understand it was kid friendly and all fun and jokes but it has become a toxic mess, like any other social media becomes.

 

I have made a Twitter account to follow anime and manga news but stopped because it didn’t really bring me anything, deleted the app the same day.

 

I think it’s just better to avoid everything that really isn’t all that important. I looked at Youtube yesterday and was just disgusted with what I saw. PewDiePie is number 1 and has done horrible things and is forgiven in a second and he’s grown arrogant too, making comments like “I don’t need to say my name anymore cause everyone knows me”, the audacity. His best friend Ken exploits his girlfriend in his thumbnails. My classmates talk about the next “Youtuber box fight”, who are all assholes and I hear people talk about male streamers who feel no shame showing their gf’s body on their site to get more views. It’s just fucking shameful. Logan and Jake Paul do not deserve anything imo but there they are, swimming in millions and having fame, people support them and they’re absolute assholes. Ugh, it’s just disappointing and all what I wrote here, does not matter; Not one bit.
 

Just do things that you enjoy, don’t care what anyone else does or says and mind your own business, that’s what I started doing and feel much better. It’s like a relief. Social media can go fuck itself.

 

@AJ_Radio Here is another good documentary about social media on Netflix: The Social Dilemma. It’s very interesting, you should check it out. They talk about Facebook, Google, how search engines work and algorthythmslsh idk how to spell it and I’m in a hurry right now haha, they talk about “how it got to this point”. Interview has people who actually worked for Google and Facebook etc. Enjoy

 

TikTok is complete garbage. I made a status update about it last Fall and people were ready to throw out the 'Ok Boomer' meme.

 

PewDiePie is honestly no different from Kim Kardashian and Kayne West. All despicable scumbags, with not a single care for the general public. That's not to mention, a lot of celebrities have already done stuff like sex tape videos and twerking on live camera. Much of TikTok today is twerking videos.

 

Netflix would be all the better without the social media aspect. I'll be sure to check that documentary out when I have time.

 

56 minutes ago, Ilzaki said:

I miss Tumblr.  Like I avoided that place like the plague.  But all the butt babies were there.  Then the banks wanted in on that, but they got rid of the porn and Tumblr collapsed and all the butt babies spread out.  And they're on Twitter and the like.  Twitter used to be fun.  But that's like what you were saying about corporations having too much say in the internet.  Like they were going to get rid of it on OnlyFans.  I deleted my Facebook a few years ago.  Twitter is the only thing I keep.  And I stay in my little bubble over there.

 

I deleted both Facebook and Twitter. Nothing but drama on Twitter now. Unfortunately the butt babies will just migrate to another platform once OnlyFans does it's thing.

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15 minutes ago, AJ_Radio said:

I deleted both Facebook and Twitter. Nothing but drama on Twitter now. Unfortunately the butt babies will just migrate to another platform once OnlyFans does it's thing.

 

The Tumblr kids have already migrated to Twitter.  I meant that banks or whoever wanted to make money off Tumblr.  But to appease them, Tumblr banned the porn and that's what made it crash.  They tried to do the same thing on OnlyFans, but luckily they got other funding from people who would leave them alone.

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10 hours ago, AJ_Radio said:

 

 

We didn't have a minute by minute cost of the internet back then, at least not that I was aware of in the United States. I had dial-up, the slow 56k internet connection where it took you as long as five minutes sometimes to load up a single webpage. There was no regulation back then either. My time on the internet was very limited, but I remember it being a great deal of fun.

 

 

 lol to be fair i didn't have a minute to minute cost back then either. i went to walmart where they always had those 1000 hours of AOL disc back in electronics and they were free. I'd just grab a handful of discs and once the hours ran out new disc. 

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21 hours ago, AJ_Radio said:

Ultimately I feel that social media will be the eventual undoing of society

 

I assume you are talking Western society here? Assuming you are, I don't feel social media in itself is leading to the downfall of Western society, but it can be a lightning rod for other problems areas. Social media does have it's benefits: a community page for parents of a specific school instead of traveling to a PTA meeting, follow old co-workers I keep in touch with, helps with hobbies (I'm part of local gardening group) and I find it easier to follow sports/athletes of my favorite teams. You are not completely wrong though, social media can lead to a plethora of issues if not self-regulated.

 

21 hours ago, AJ_Radio said:

Once smartphones came into the picture everything went downhill for me

 

This is part of the problem. There's a great book titled Bowling Alone, where the author's has several hypotheses for cause of the US's lack of community involvement, which lack of community is one of the main reasons for this fractured society. The smartphone, acting as a more advanced form of the television in terms of keeping someone entertained without human interaction, has a slow, cascading effect on people lack of community involvement for the past 50 years. 

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@AJ_Radio I think you should learn to grow thick skin and not think negative things all the time instead of whining about it. Social media has some benefits and I believed it won't lead to mankind's undoing.

 

Just take some time off from the internet, that can help relive some stress.

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The real pandemic is idiots with technology which pretty much covers most of society, we have no choice.

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Regarding the YouTubers: "To test a man's character, give him power".

Will Smith also had an interesting "apology" for his kid's dumb Tweets: ...

I can't find the actual quote, but the point was that there have always been stupid people, but there was no way to let the whole world know they were. Not until the internet showed up and gave them a platform to do so.

 

More on topic: I still get weird looks when I tell them they won't be able to find me on the internet. I'm the last (and only) person in my tribe who uses an alias for every online platform.

How do people simply put their entire life on the 'net for all to see? With the frequent scandals about politicians, CEOs and other public figures that often are started by dredging up an old message (sometimes a decade old)... how can they not care?

The only exceptions are purchases that require a physical address. It's hard to prove you're the one using that particular name when all your IDs state something different.

 

I've used FaceBook as a communication method to plan meetings with fellow D&D players. With the pandemic, and arrival of a phone capable of taking over that task, my FB page is as good as dead. Not that I posted much anyway.

 

Society as a whole is moving towards protecting everyone. No matter how strong or how weak they are. How easily everyone is offended is baffling.

What happened to the era where Jackass, Bam Margera, Balls of Steel, Remi Gaillard, and Dirty Sanchez were the "funnies"?

In today's standard they'd face serious consequences.. back then they were endorsed (even getting full-length movies in theaters).

Society's gone soft, protective, simplified(/streamlined), dumbed-down. Fake news, exaggeration of half-truths, partial and biased messages, minorities who dictate to the majorities about how their tiny bubble is exclude: it's become the new standard.

Social Media isn't directly to blame. It's the users who support it, make it great, but don't abandon it when the rules change too much.

 

I watched the video in the OP and kind of agree.. the best times have come and gone. The "you"-time is long gone, it's all been integrated with content from non-users (news items, ads, unrelated recommendations).

 

Want to escape reality? Play games. Real games that can't possibly have any connection to the outside world. Games that make you forget there is even an outside  world. They don't have to be huge (WItcher III, Skyrim, Dragon's Dogma) or not wildly dissimilar to our world (Saboteur, Life is Strange, Need For Speed).

They should take up all your attention, leaving no time to think about anything but the game (Dark Souls, Crypt of the Necrodancer, The Talos Principle).

The best ones will leave you a little sad when you've seen everything it had to offer, maybe even worthy of a salute in thanks for the good times.

 

Lastly, social media isn't a mandatory part of life. Some may think so, but they're mistaken.

 

PS: got this from a buddy last night. Have a laugh: https://www.motherfuckingwebsite.com

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On 9/2/2021 at 0:10 PM, pathtoninja said:

I assume you are talking Western society here? Assuming you are, I don't feel social media in itself is leading to the downfall of Western society, but it can be a lightning rod for other problems areas. Social media does have it's benefits: a community page for parents of a specific school instead of traveling to a PTA meeting, follow old co-workers I keep in touch with, helps with hobbies (I'm part of local gardening group) and I find it easier to follow sports/athletes of my favorite teams. You are not completely wrong though, social media can lead to a plethora of issues if not self-regulated.

 

I don't consider social media to be the single lone cause of the downfall, but it has contributed a lot to it. I truly think when mobile devices were able to easily hook up to the internet, that signaled the fast decline.

 

As I said before, there have always been idiots. I have plenty of stories of people trying to take advantage of me and games like Runescape were full of people trying to scam others. That was all within the so called "Golden Age" of the internet that the video I posted encompasses. The thing was, you still had to get a direct connection to the internet and the only way to really do that was using either a desktop or a laptop computer. Flip phones could access the internet, but they were horrendously slow. Texting on a numpad was a overly tedious process.

 

I still keep in touch with people I met during the old days of MySpace and the early days of Facebook. I haven't made one friend or ally on YouTube, Reddit or any of the other social media platforms these last couple years. Everybody is fake. Everybody just wants to get some quick exposure. Everybody wants to go viral.

 

I never gave a shit about the views, likes or dislikes. I just wanted to be a part of a community where I felt like I belonged. That's always been my motive. Unfortunately with the general direction society is heading, people are all too quick to cry out and cause an outrage on social media. Twitter got so bad I finally decided to cut the cord for good. Same with Facebook. Nothing good comes out of those platforms anymore.

 

These days I mostly stick to these forums and only use YouTube to watch videos. Discord I use every now and then, but not too often.

 

On 9/2/2021 at 0:10 PM, pathtoninja said:

This is part of the problem. There's a great book titled Bowling Alone, where the author's has several hypotheses for cause of the US's lack of community involvement, which lack of community is one of the main reasons for this fractured society. The smartphone, acting as a more advanced form of the television in terms of keeping someone entertained without human interaction, has a slow, cascading effect on people lack of community involvement for the past 50 years. 

 

I must fully agree with this. Lack of community leads to other problems that stems far beyond social media. Weak leadership as a result of miscommunication, people not willing to get involved and help others.

 

You don't need other people for entertainment anymore. Everybody just sits in their homes all day and traps themselves inside of a bubble. It's so easy to do nowadays with fiber internet and about 1000 - 1500 movies to watch on Netflix and Amazon Prime. Video games? Just buy up all those titles on Steam and Sony, you will never play them all in your lifetime.

 

I've been going outside more, and trust me, it feels fucking good to do so.

 

14 hours ago, Shikotei-kun said:

Regarding the YouTubers: "To test a man's character, give him power".

Will Smith also had an interesting "apology" for his kid's dumb Tweets: ...

I can't find the actual quote, but the point was that there have always been stupid people, but there was no way to let the whole world know they were. Not until the internet showed up and gave them a platform to do so.

 

More on topic: I still get weird looks when I tell them they won't be able to find me on the internet. I'm the last (and only) person in my tribe who uses an alias for every online platform.

How do people simply put their entire life on the 'net for all to see? With the frequent scandals about politicians, CEOs and other public figures that often are started by dredging up an old message (sometimes a decade old)... how can they not care?

The only exceptions are purchases that require a physical address. It's hard to prove you're the one using that particular name when all your IDs state something different.

 

I've used FaceBook as a communication method to plan meetings with fellow D&D players. With the pandemic, and arrival of a phone capable of taking over that task, my FB page is as good as dead. Not that I posted much anyway.

 

Society as a whole is moving towards protecting everyone. No matter how strong or how weak they are. How easily everyone is offended is baffling.

What happened to the era where Jackass, Bam Margera, Balls of Steel, Remi Gaillard, and Dirty Sanchez were the "funnies"?

In today's standard they'd face serious consequences.. back then they were endorsed (even getting full-length movies in theaters).

Society's gone soft, protective, simplified(/streamlined), dumbed-down. Fake news, exaggeration of half-truths, partial and biased messages, minorities who dictate to the majorities about how their tiny bubble is exclude: it's become the new standard.

Social Media isn't directly to blame. It's the users who support it, make it great, but don't abandon it when the rules change too much.

 

I watched the video in the OP and kind of agree.. the best times have come and gone. The "you"-time is long gone, it's all been integrated with content from non-users (news items, ads, unrelated recommendations).

 

Want to escape reality? Play games. Real games that can't possibly have any connection to the outside world. Games that make you forget there is even an outside  world. They don't have to be huge (WItcher III, Skyrim, Dragon's Dogma) or not wildly dissimilar to our world (Saboteur, Life is Strange, Need For Speed).

They should take up all your attention, leaving no time to think about anything but the game (Dark Souls, Crypt of the Necrodancer, The Talos Principle).

The best ones will leave you a little sad when you've seen everything it had to offer, maybe even worthy of a salute in thanks for the good times.

 

Lastly, social media isn't a mandatory part of life. Some may think so, but they're mistaken.

 

PS: got this from a buddy last night. Have a laugh: https://www.motherfuckingwebsite.com

 

Agreed with everything said here. I will suggest to people to go outside every now and then. Don't just trap yourself in a room all the day playing video games. Funny enough, while I didn't like Life is Strange, it actually paints a fairly accurate picture of the direction society is heading.

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I wouldn't say that I can't stand social media, but I'm definitely taking a bit of a step back from it.

 

I have a FB profile that is mainly for keeping in touch with family and friends whom I don't get to see in person.  I just skim through the news feed whenever I log into it, as many of the posts that I see aren't really relevant to me.  Sometimes I'll post some of my recent artwork on there, it gets a bunch of likes and is then forgotten about, like 99% of the stuff that goes on social media.

 

I don't use Snapchat, Twitter, LinkedIn, Reddit, Discord or Tiktok.  I don't have a YouTube account.  I do have an Instagram page that is used for putting some of my pixel art out there, but it's barely a drop in the ocean.

 

Youtube is mainly used to play music playlists, for video game collectible guides etc, and occasionally to find a movie that isn't available on DVD or blu-ray here.  I don't bother with the "big" stuff on YouTube.  I don't give a fuck about PewDiePie.  Never have, never will.  He's just a gamer as far as I'm concerned.  Logan and Jake Paul?  I barely even know who they are.  The Kardashians would be less than nothing without social media.  Kanye West is one of the biggest c*nts on the planet.

 

Like @AJ_Radio, I remember when the Internet was in its absolute infancy.  I was just into my teens before it was even invented - our first family computer at home was on dial-up, often taking several minutes to load a single page.  The Internet was a thing of genuine wonder back then; it represented uncharted territory for literally everybody.  Most people didn't even have computers at home in those days - I don't think Wi-Fi had even been invented yet.  Smart phones didn't exist, so you couldn't surf on the go - you pretty much had to be at home or at work, using a desktop or laptop, and that was assuming your computer was even capable of accessing the internet.  I had a MySpace page back in the day, and even built a GeoCities site, but MySpace fell by the wayside when Facebook was introduced, and GeoCities was eventually shut down altogether.

 

The current trend of everyone having to tiptoe around for fear of offending someone royally fucks me off.  Every Tom, Dick and Harry now claims to be upset or offended by something they saw or read, and instead of the rest of us telling them to shut the fuck up and get a life, we're having to bow down to them, because God forbid someone's feelings might get hurt.  I actually read a recent story online about someone who boarded a train and heard the conductor start a tannoy announcement with "Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen".  This person reportedly became very upset by this announcement, because he/they didn't identify as male or female, so the announcement therefore didn't apply to, or include, him/them.

This kind of thing seems to be indicative of where society as a whole is heading, and frankly, it's looking more and more like a fucking depressing place to be.  And social media has a very large part to play in that.

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Don't follow people you don't like on social media. Easy fix.

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15 hours ago, StewartBros said:

I wouldn't say that I can't stand social media, but I'm definitely taking a bit of a step back from it.

 

I have a FB profile that is mainly for keeping in touch with family and friends whom I don't get to see in person.  I just skim through the news feed whenever I log into it, as many of the posts that I see aren't really relevant to me.  Sometimes I'll post some of my recent artwork on there, it gets a bunch of likes and is then forgotten about, like 99% of the stuff that goes on social media.

 

I don't use Snapchat, Twitter, LinkedIn, Reddit, Discord or Tiktok.  I don't have a YouTube account.  I do have an Instagram page that is used for putting some of my pixel art out there, but it's barely a drop in the ocean.

 

Youtube is mainly used to play music playlists, for video game collectible guides etc, and occasionally to find a movie that isn't available on DVD or blu-ray here.  I don't bother with the "big" stuff on YouTube.  I don't give a fuck about PewDiePie.  Never have, never will.  He's just a gamer as far as I'm concerned.  Logan and Jake Paul?  I barely even know who they are.  The Kardashians would be less than nothing without social media.  Kanye West is one of the biggest c*nts on the planet.

 

Like @AJ_Radio, I remember when the Internet was in its absolute infancy.  I was just into my teens before it was even invented - our first family computer at home was on dial-up, often taking several minutes to load a single page.  The Internet was a thing of genuine wonder back then; it represented uncharted territory for literally everybody.  Most people didn't even have computers at home in those days - I don't think Wi-Fi had even been invented yet.  Smart phones didn't exist, so you couldn't surf on the go - you pretty much had to be at home or at work, using a desktop or laptop, and that was assuming your computer was even capable of accessing the internet.  I had a MySpace page back in the day, and even built a GeoCities site, but MySpace fell by the wayside when Facebook was introduced, and GeoCities was eventually shut down altogether.

 

The current trend of everyone having to tiptoe around for fear of offending someone royally fucks me off.  Every Tom, Dick and Harry now claims to be upset or offended by something they saw or read, and instead of the rest of us telling them to shut the fuck up and get a life, we're having to bow down to them, because God forbid someone's feelings might get hurt.  I actually read a recent story online about someone who boarded a train and heard the conductor start a tannoy announcement with "Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen".  This person reportedly became very upset by this announcement, because he/they didn't identify as male or female, so the announcement therefore didn't apply to, or include, him/them.

This kind of thing seems to be indicative of where society as a whole is heading, and frankly, it's looking more and more like a fucking depressing place to be.  And social media has a very large part to play in that.

 

I appreciate you taking the time to post this, because there is so much truth in it.

 

Facebook was a platform I used for years, but once it became big in around 2008 - 2009, it started to go downhill. As somebody who was always a bit of an anonymous user, being required to use your real name didn't settle well with me. I made a secondary account on Facebook years ago only to see it get suspended because I was using it as a business page, not a personal page. Facebook wanted everybody to stick to one profile, with your real name revealed to the general public. That's when I got pissed off.

 

Some friends of mine still use Facebook, but most of them have deleted their profiles and moved on, just like I did. There is absolutely nothing on FB anymore that is really a necessity. When it became too big to fail, it didn't care about their users.

 

Never had an account on Snapchat or LinkedIn. I've had my YouTube account since 2007. Instagram is mostly used for young beautiful women to gain their likes and attention. TikTok is the brainless social media platform for stupid kids who partake in those internet challenges.

 

Most of the good stuff on YouTube comes from the smaller channels. None of the trending channels offer anything of substance. Kayne West was decent when he started out, but he realized he would make a lot more money if he sold out. Which he did. He still thinks of himself as a God, and looks down on anybody who doesn't think the same way he does.

 

Really no different than how Lebron James constantly uses his Twitter account to bitch at the world. Donald Trump did that too, until the Twitter mob finally had his account banned.

 

I had very little time on the internet in those early days. My dad worked with a lot of computer geeks back then who convinced him to get a Windows 95, which was the platform that introduced me to the internet. No Wi-Fi back then. MySpace came later on and I was one of the early teenagers to have an account on there. Facebook shot it down, and Tom became a mere memory.

 

That's my problem too. I may sound like I vent a lot on this website and bitch a lot in general, but in reality I'm a very nice person who is very hard to legitimately piss off. It's not necessarily the internet itself, it is today's society. The whole outcry regarding both The Last of Us Part II and Cyberpunk 2077 wouldn't of been elevated nearly as much were it not for social media. Yes, it's true that CD Projekt Red lied to their fanbase regarding the game, yes it's true that the game ran like shit on the PS4. But to go as far as to issue out threats and reach an extreme level of hatred for one company is too much. That was what I saw out of Twitter once the news came out that Cyberpunk 2077 was a disaster at launch.

 

It reminded me of the massive outcry aimed at Bethesda after Fallout 76 was released. Suddenly millions of fans who were loyal to Bethesda for years were beginning to boycott the company, and for what?

 

Social media has made it possible for platforms like Reddit and Twitter to form a mob that will push their agenda far enough to where the other side will either change their perspective or just simply give up. A number of transgender groups out there will cry out whenever they feel they're being left out, much like the story regarding the conductor making that announcement on the train.

 

That boils my blood. I'm not somebody who tries to tiptoe around for fear of offending someone. I state something just as I think of it, regardless if it offends people or not. Because so many people refuse to come out honest, our culture is decaying. That is why we now have movements like #BlackLivesMatters and The Proud Boys. Both conforming to agendas on the opposite ends. #BlackLivesMatters isn't necessarily just people trying to get minorities the same rights and privileges. It stems far deeper than that. The gun toting Proud Boys movement is just as disgusting, an extreme political movement that is best left dead.

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I've found different forms of social media useful for small things, but I try not to use it much. It was a good way to spread around copies of family photos I scanned without having to utilize more cumbersome methods, as an example. Otherwise I use it for messaging between local friends. I live in an area that's a bit of a dead zone, so SMS texting fails 9 times out of 10. Facebook messenger, however, works perfectly so long as I have a wifi signal. I'm a firm believer that a tool is only as good as you use it.

 

Outside of those few things, I tend to stay away from social media. It's too absorbing and can very easily draw a person into the mob justice mentality we see today. Twitter in particular is digitized cancer.

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53 minutes ago, Jelly Soup said:

I've found different forms of social media useful for small things, but I try not to use it much. It was a good way to spread around copies of family photos I scanned without having to utilize more cumbersome methods, as an example. Otherwise I use it for messaging between local friends. I live in an area that's a bit of a dead zone, so SMS texting fails 9 times out of 10. Facebook messenger, however, works perfectly so long as I have a wifi signal. I'm a firm believer that a tool is only as good as you use it.

 

Outside of those few things, I tend to stay away from social media. It's too absorbing and can very easily draw a person into the mob justice mentality we see today. Twitter in particular is digitized cancer.

 

Mostly agree. Let's not cloud our judgement with rose tinted glasses though. There were plenty of bad people on the internet back in the day. The big difference was it was a lot smaller, because growing up in the 1990s and early 2000s like I did, most of everyone in my family just went online to check their e-mail. No Wi-Fi. No phone of theirs could connect to the internet. You had to sit there at a desktop computer with a wired internet connection, which was slow as molasses. Friendster was perhaps the first social media platform to actually gain a presence. MySpace would follow shortly thereafter.

 

At this point in time, I seriously and honestly miss those days. I feel a large part of the reason why many people are jaded and separated socially is because everybody and their mother is connected to the internet. It's not just checking e-mail and looking to see if you got a friend request from somebody you talked to in a chat room. Those days ended a long time ago.

 

Interpersonal communication is important, and is something that the younger generations will never truly grasp, because like I said, everybody is on the internet. All COVID-19 has done is make everything worse, there's more than enough media to prove that.

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Oh, yeah, the internet has always been full of assholes, going all the way back to the dial-up BBS days. I remember plenty of e-slapfights on usenet in the pre-September days. Parts of that time I miss, parts I don't. It should be noted that much of this experience can still be had, although in a much small fashion. MUD servers still run, with a couple more going up every year or two. BBS' still exist, normally using standard IRC protocol to connect to limited access networks (there is one I infrequently post on that is hosted on an actual Commodore 64, owned and ran by a collector), IRC itself still exists and sees just as much use as Discord. To paraphrase an old TechCrunch article, "So long as there are people who prefer command lines over mouses, text only social networking will still exist."

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