Popular Post jpwbjpwb Posted November 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Helyx said: It'd be nice if the people behind PSOne allowed you to view their source code. Sharing it with the public would not only put lots of people at ease, but potentially spur more members to delve into reviving other dead multiplayer components. The team behind these revived servers need to cooperate more openly with the community and stop being so cryptic about their work. I don't think they are being cryptic at all. The have made clear their position on open sourcing and it is completely reasonable. Open sourcing will make it much easier for malicious actors to make minor changes to the code in order to misuse personal information or even make the changes so feared by the comments above. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyleh Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, jpwbjpwb said: I don't think they are being cryptic at all. Obscuring their source code is literally the definition of being cryptic. Take a moment to look back at the GoneSpy situation and see how little concern there was from and end-user perspective. This was because the source was openly available to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jpwbjpwb Posted November 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Helyx said: Obscuring their source code is literally the definition of being cryptic. Take a moment to look back at the GoneSpy situation and see how little concern there was from and end-user perspective. This was because the source was openly available to the public. Obscuring their code is a necesary precaution when you are approaching the situation from the angle they are. There is nothing cryptic about it because they have clearly explained the reasons behind this choice. There is no mystery or secret here and they do not owe their code to anyone. It is up to individuals to decide whether they use the service which they offer. Whilst I don't currently plan to play any of their offerings I am greatful for the steps they are taking to preserve these games. I really don't understand why some people are being so ungreatful for them doing somethign with no downside and plenty of potential upside should they make the decision to use these servers. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyleh Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, jpwbjpwb said: I really don't understand why some people are being so ungreatful for them doing somethign with no downside The downsides greatly outnumber the positive aspects. I'm happy there's projects to revive servers, but there's a proper way to do them, and obscuring your source code and not making it viewable to your own public isn't the way to go about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1rvine Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 This is a huge no for the leaderboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelly Soup Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) Wouldn't mind making a side account or using that PS3 emulator thing (never used it) for some Home. For anyone who didn't experience it back in the day, it was pretty great. Surprisingly tight community, right up till the end, fun game/publisher worlds, bunch of dumb mini-games for digital junk to decorate your apartment...lots of stuff. Would be interested to see if these devs could add stuff to the game. The last planned feature before the game went down was allowing for your trophies to be used as decorations. I can't find it off hand, but there was a limitation in the PS3s OS preventing it from happening in a way that wouldn't be taxing on the HD. Supposedly connected to the also dropped plan to allow users to use their trophy images as profile icons. Edit: This isn't to advertise or condone the usage of the PS3 emulator or CFW stuffs. Edited November 26, 2021 by Jelly Soup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterglemm Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 26/11/2021 at 5:39 AM, B1rvine said: This is a huge no for the leaderboards. Explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, Winterglemm said: Explain That post says the platforms required require either a custom firmware PS3 or to use a PS3 emulator. Neither of which would be openly supported by the leaderboards here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richtoon Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Ps vita trophy stacks different region games by use email trick is allowed but not with private server by put DNS numbers?! I want to platinum motorstorm pacific rift if PSOne bring it back and i think it’s unfair to blacklist it. Put DNS number on PS3 network setting is x100 easy than ps vita email trick and you don’t need to mod or hack a PS3 for access private server. PSOne runs server like normal psn server, no cheat or hack. Just playing game like normal. Any cheaters and hackers will be banned from PSOne. i would love to see psnprofiles allowed it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEYOND-EVIL Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 the day ps home comes back online i will relive being 10-14 again definitely hope they come back . ps home is my favorite game of all time i don’t care for the trophies more will play it for nostalgia On 11/25/2021 at 11:49 PM, Jelly Soup said: Wouldn't mind making a side account or using that PS3 emulator thing (never used it) for some Home. For anyone who didn't experience it back in the day, it was pretty great. Surprisingly tight community, right up till the end, fun game/publisher worlds, bunch of dumb mini-games for digital junk to decorate your apartment...lots of stuff. Would be interested to see if these devs could add stuff to the game. The last planned feature before the game went down was allowing for your trophies to be used as decorations. I can't find it off hand, but there was a limitation in the PS3s OS preventing it from happening in a way that wouldn't be taxing on the HD. Supposedly connected to the also dropped plan to allow users to use their trophy images as profile icons. Edit: This isn't to advertise or condone the usage of the PS3 emulator or CFW stuffs. yeah i might check it out on a side account but if i have to buy a whole console just to do it probably not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_-_808 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 37 minutes ago, Richtoon said: Ps vita trophy stacks different region games by use email trick is allowed but not with private server by put DNS numbers?! I want to platinum motorstorm pacific rift if PSOne bring it back and i think it’s unfair to blacklist it. Put DNS number on PS3 network setting is x100 easy than ps vita email trick and you don’t need to mod or hack a PS3 for access private server. PSOne runs server like normal psn server, no cheat or hack. Just playing game like normal. Any cheaters and hackers will be banned from PSOne. i would love to see psnprofiles allowed it. Actually, they forewarn people against using the vita trick because if you mess up, you get flagged. Also, it's not about being a fan server, it's about not making the code open-source to verify, at any given time, that they aren't changing up the code in a way that would make the game illegitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Winterglemm Posted November 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2021 Okay guys, how about PSNProfiles gets open sourced then? How do I know the trophies being displayed are authentic without looking at the code? How can we know that people that people aren't being quietly left out of the leader boards even though they should be on there? That argument works both ways 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, Winterglemm said: Okay guys, how about PSNProfiles gets open sourced then? How do I know the trophies being displayed are authentic without looking at the code? How can we know that people that people aren't being quietly left out of the leader boards even though they should be on there? That argument works both ways What? You can see people’s trophies by finding them on your console and compare that to what you see here so you know which trophies are “authentic”. Open sourcing the site wouldn’t change people who don’t qualify for the leaderboard, nor would it show people “quietly left out”. Is your argument “The site isn’t open sourced so the leaderboards should be forced to allow any and all other closed source software or tools that unlock trophies?” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, DaivRules said: What? You can see people’s trophies by finding them on your console and compare that to what you see here so you know which trophies are “authentic”. Open sourcing the site wouldn’t change people who don’t qualify for the leaderboard, nor would it show people “quietly left out”. Is your argument “The site isn’t open sourced so the leaderboards should be forced to allow any and all other closed source software or tools that unlock trophies?” his argument still works for security. we literally trust third parties with our information lol, that would essentially be the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixgaming1 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I really hope these servers come online again, would love to be able to finish up the leftover trophies I have and get 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoredSnowman Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 11/27/2021 at 3:47 PM, Richtoon said: i would love to see psnprofiles allowed it. The PSNP Staff have made their view clear. If PSOne would make their servers open-source, the moderators can review it and add it to the approved server list on here. But until such a time occurs, there's no way to trust the integrity of the servers you're playing on. There's no way this PS Home server would ever be allowed, especially since it'd required a jailbroken/HEN console, which would only increase the chances of users being banned on those PS3s. Now, I don't know how online would work on the emulator, as I've never used it, but a moderator already said RPCS3 isn't allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scemopagliaccioh Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) On 28/11/2021 at 5:44 PM, kevao97 said: his argument still works for security. we literally trust third parties with our information lol, that would essentially be the same thing. Those third parties, the companies working on the servers “normally” are big companies that you know where to find if they do something stupid, and the repercussions from them doing something stupid for little gain (high risk low reward) are palpable. This is different, who’s Snake, Fig, Nagato etc? Nobodies with unknowable variables in their economic and social situations, the risk for the user is present here under the condition that the PSOne’s risk is largely reduced from the one a big company has. Besides, they allow cfw ps3s and various emulators. Edited December 8, 2021 by scemopagliaccioh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Retsuramzi Posted May 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) glad i found this project with this post, totally unexpected, i can understand the doubts about not being open source, but there is no way yet to know anything, im just hyped Edit: actually check this Edited May 24, 2022 by Retsuramzi 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoredSnowman Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 11/27/2021 at 8:52 AM, DaivRules said: That post says the platforms required require either a custom firmware PS3 or to use a PS3 emulator. Neither of which would be openly supported by the leaderboards here. I assume that means Mystic won't be on there for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagangsters55 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 16 hours ago, ArmoredSnowman said: I assume that means Mystic won't be on there for long. If you check the last achiever for logging into PlayStation home it’s him. But it’s a second account with only 3 plats. So he will be taken down on his second account I assume but not his main. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoredSnowman Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 6 hours ago, jagangsters55 said: If you check the last achiever for logging into PlayStation home it’s him. But it’s a second account with only 3 plats. So he will be taken down on his second account I assume but not his main. That's what I mean. He had to use HEN to go online on the game, so it's not defendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagangsters55 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 On 03/11/2022 at 0:19 AM, ArmoredSnowman said: That's what I mean. He had to use HEN to go online on the game, so it's not defendable. Yeah but there’s no proof of him using it for his main account. His second account should get taken down not his main. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dieselmanchild Posted November 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, jagangsters55 said: Yeah but there’s no proof of him using it for his main account. His second account should get taken down not his main. Agreed. Mystic’s videos are always well made and he does a lot of thorough research to bring that kind of content to his viewers. If he used HEN on an alt-account for the purpose for accessing, researching and documenting the PlayStation Home fan project for a video or whatever, then I really don’t see why his main account should be in the conversation. His main acc is clean and he is quite obviously not a cheater. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoredSnowman Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 7 hours ago, jagangsters55 said: Yeah but there’s no proof of him using it for his main account. His second account should get taken down not his main. I'm only referring to his second account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagangsters55 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 06/11/2022 at 4:00 AM, ArmoredSnowman said: I'm only referring to his second account. Oh for sure then On 05/11/2022 at 9:17 PM, dieselmanchild said: Agreed. Mystic’s videos are always well made and he does a lot of thorough research to bring that kind of content to his viewers. If he used HEN on an alt-account for the purpose for accessing, researching and documenting the PlayStation Home fan project for a video or whatever, then I really don’t see why his main account should be in the conversation. His main acc is clean and he is quite obviously not a cheater. Couldn't agree more, very well put together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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