The Ultra Rare Cleanup 2022

[BrandedBerserk]

Best event on these forums so of course I'll be joining this year again. 

 

Here's my list

 

 

[Copanele]

1 hour ago, willythom88 said:

Rayman 3

OMG this game ? I will DEFINITELY take this one into consideration for when we're making the lists.

Super Meat Boy got nothing on armless dog with stupid trophies  this was a nightmare to play on PC, heard the PS3 version is 3 times more awful.

[Together_Comic]

 

Definitely in!  Though 10 games is going to be tough for me given how glacial I am ?.  Tentative list is above.  Though I'd really like a true platformer if anyone has suggestions.  Look forward to another great year.  Thanks for hosting @Copanele and @Arcesius

Edited January 2, 2022 by Together_Comic

[willythom88]

36 minutes ago, Copanele said:

OMG this game ? I will DEFINITELY take this one into consideration for when we're making the lists.

Super Meat Boy got nothing on armless dog with stupid trophies  this was a nightmare to play on PC, heard the PS3 version is 3 times more awful.

 

Ha, I actually took a swing at it last year for another event.  The controls are serviceable enough but by the time I got to the first (possibly?) boss, I was very burnt out on the jumping mechanic iirc.

5 minutes ago, Together_Comic said:

Definitely in!  Though 10 games is going to be tough for me given how glacial I am ?.  Tentative list is above.  Though I'd really like a true platformer if anyone has suggestions.  Look forward to another great year.  Thanks for hosting @Copanele and @Arcesius

Leo's Fortune, Giana Sisters, Super Cloudbuilt, Spelunky 2 and Electronic Super Joy would be some thoughts. 

Edited December 13, 2021 by willythom88

[MrHealthy]

I will be hunting a bunch of Ultra Rares for the Platinum Difficulty Challenge 2022 & the A-Z Non Plat Club so I may as well do this.

 

For my Tier 1 I am going do some actual cleanup. Finishing off ultra rares that I have had in the backlog for a while rather then starting some new ones.

 

 

 

[Walt the Dog]

On 12/10/2021 at 3:02 PM, Copanele said:

A game is only eligible it it had at least one unobtained UR trophy, be it in the main game or DLC. An exception to this rule are non-platinum games without DLC that have no UR trophies but a UR 100% completion (ex. Zuma)

I have a bit of a question about this rule: do plats count as the "unobtained UR trophy" for purposes of this? I ask since if that is the case, then while the rule makes sense for non-plat lists and cases of saving DLC for the event, the rule wouldn't work for plat lists since someone could just save a non-UR trophy for last and then claim the plat as their UR, making the rule effectively pointless for those games.

[Copanele]

1 minute ago, Walt the Dog said:

I have a bit of a question about this rule: do plats count as the "unobtained UR trophy" for purposes of this? I ask since if that is the case, then while the rule makes sense for non-plat lists and cases of saving DLC for the event, the rule wouldn't work for plat lists since someone could just save a non-UR trophy for last and then claim the plat as their UR, making the rule effectively pointless for those games.

Plats do count for the "unobtained UR trophy", we don't want to be THAT strict with requirements . 

For example, say that you have everything done in Persona 4 Arena except the "See all endings" trophy which is a 19.4% trophy. You would have that left and the platinum which is 0.39%. That is allowed  you went through the hassle of completing the game after all. We went for the definition of "UR cleanup" so in a way...you are cleaning up an ultra rare trophy   

 

However if your final trophy is non-UR and from a DLC(say that you got all the other trophies a while ago and you got one pesky "Watch a Replay" DLC trophy) then it's not eligible. It wouldn't cover the requirements for the event. 

 

[Walt the Dog]

8 minutes ago, Copanele said:

Plats do count for the "unobtained UR trophy", we don't want to be THAT strict with requirements . 

For example, say that you have everything done in Persona 4 Arena except the "See all endings" trophy which is a 19.4% trophy. You would have that left and the platinum which is 0.39%. That is allowed  you went through the hassle of completing the game after all. We went for the definition of "UR cleanup" so in a way...you are cleaning up an ultra rare trophy   

 

However if your final trophy is non-UR and from a DLC(say that you got all the other trophies a while ago and you got one pesky "Watch a Replay" DLC trophy) then it's not eligible. It wouldn't cover the requirements for the event. 

 

What I don't get about this is that this decision also unfairly affects non-plat lists since they don't have a plat to use in instances like this. To put forth a possible use case, let's say that I decided to go through Peggle, a game that has UR trophies, and did everything (including the offline-only Peggle Nights DLC) except the online trophies, which are both non-UR and within the base list. Even though this is within the same jurisdiction as the P4A example above, it doesn't count the same. While the Peggle example does violate the idea of cleaning up an UR trophy, the same could be said for allowing games like Zuma as well since even though it has an UR completion, it has no URs to its name.

[Copanele]

12 minutes ago, Walt the Dog said:

What I don't get about this is that this decision also unfairly affects non-plat lists since they don't have a plat to use in instances like this. To put forth a possible use case, let's say that I decided to go through Peggle, a game that has UR trophies, and did everything (including the offline-only Peggle Nights DLC) except the online trophies, which are both non-UR and within the base list. Even though this is within the same jurisdiction as the P4A example above, it doesn't count the same. While the Peggle example does violate the idea of cleaning up an UR trophy, the same could be said for allowing games like Zuma as well since even though it has an UR completion, it has no URs to its name.

Zuma is an exception because that game would have been UR if it had a platinum without the mad DLC math behind.

Normally we picked up this rule because the 100% completed percentage is calculated through some Eldritch magic that we don't really understand on this site, compared to the base trophy list. I know @Arcesius debated this in more detail before, with not much success ? I didn't even bother to comprehend.

 

Since these cases are a rare encounter(your Peggle example, same as Zuma), you can ask us if game X is allowed, either via PM or posting here, and we'll tell if the game is OK or not, with arguments of course  

Edited December 13, 2021 by Copanele

[Eqill5]

Count me in, here’s my first Tier! 

 

Super Meat Boy (0.25%) - 33%

Call of Duty Black Ops: Cold War (PS4)(2.91%) - 0%

Rain World (2.93%) - 0%

Splasher (2.64%) - 0%

Super Rude Bear Resurrection (4.97%) - 0%

Crash Bandicoot 4: It’s About Time (PS4)(4.81%) - 0%

Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus (0.86%) - 0%

Oddworld New n Tasty (2.75%) - 0%

Rabi Ribi (PS4)(3.78%) - 0%

Assetto Corsa (0.22%) - 0%

Edited December 13, 2021 by Eqill5

[Ich1994-1994]

I am in! Want to up mr ur count anyway.

first list draft would be

1 voodoo dice

2 don’t starve

3 super time force ultra

4 dead nation apocalypse

5 enter the gungeon

Maybe list

wolfenstein 2

 

[Arctic Cress]

I think I will join as well. In the spirit of cleaning up as the topic title states, I'll try to start off with only lists that I've already started, with the following:

 

The Caligula Effect (2.34%) - 6% complete

Fall Guys: Ultimate Knockout (2.51%) - 91% complete

Tears to Tiara II: Heir of the Overlord (2.74%) - 43% complete

Dynasty Warriors 8 (2.96%) - 87% complete

Yakuza 0 (4.20%) - 80% complete

MeiQ: Labyrinth of Death (4.57%) - 25% complete

Judgment (4.58%) - 52% complete

Rainbow Moon (4.66%) - 68% complete

Mind≒0 (4.75%) - 23% complete

PixelJunk Shooter Ultimate (4.96%) - 48% complete

 

I think there's enough games to cleanup for two tiers, but I'll just stop here with these 10, and swap as necessary. Still working on a few of these as the year closes so if I do finish one of them I'll change it before the new year.

Edited January 1, 2022 by Arctic Cress
Switching Puyo for Mind 0

[Arcesius]

On 12/13/2021 at 1:10 AM, Together_Comic said:

Definitely in!  Though 10 games is going to be tough for me given how glacial I am .  Tentative list is above.  Though I'd really like a true platformer if anyone has suggestions.  Look forward to another great year.  Thanks for hosting @Copanele and @Arcesius

 

One of the "true platformers" I'm gonna tackle myself, one definitely inspired by SMB and the like, is Super Rude Bear Resurrection. Check it out!  It's still barely UR, but that's again the same phenomenon as something like The End is Nigh or Splasher... Very few owners, only 9 100% achievers. 

 

 

Btw. I'm officially adding that one to my Tier 1 with this very post, before it stops being UR! ? I will post my entire list when I'm at my private laptop with PSNP+ enabled. 

 

 

23 hours ago, Walt the Dog said:

What I don't get about this is that this decision also unfairly affects non-plat lists since they don't have a plat to use in instances like this. To put forth a possible use case, let's say that I decided to go through Peggle, a game that has UR trophies, and did everything (including the offline-only Peggle Nights DLC) except the online trophies, which are both non-UR and within the base list. Even though this is within the same jurisdiction as the P4A example above, it doesn't count the same. While the Peggle example does violate the idea of cleaning up an UR trophy, the same could be said for allowing games like Zuma as well since even though it has an UR completion, it has no URs to its name.

 

I don't agree that it unfairly affects non-plat lists. The example of Zuma is one exception to the rule. If you have a game like Zuma, with no UR trophies and no DLC, then the hypothetical platinum trophy would be as rare as the 100% rarity displayed here on PSNP.

 

Once you have DLCs... then that is not the case anymore. And it would be too much of a hassle to manually compute the rarity of a hypothetical platinum for those games. Could you for example tell me what the rarity of Peggle's plat would be, if it had one? (Just to be clear, in the case of Peggle, it would at least certainly be UR, but you get the point.. what about 100% games with DLC and no UR trophies? How would we know what the rarity of a plat would be in that case?) 

 

Personally, I don't care much for the Zuma example anyways, and I would be fine even with removing that rule. It was suggested by someone that in the end didn't even join the event last year...

Just to mention that we had that rule in place for the entirety of the 2021 event and, to my knowledge, no single completed game during the entire year was eligible thanks to that rule. 

 

What we definitely won't do is create more lenient rules to even accept 100% completions with DLC and no UR trophies. As @Copanele mentioned, I have been very vocal about how stupid the DLC rarities are computed here on PSNP and how it is even more stupid that the 100% rarity of a game does not follow the same computations, but we are still hosting an event on this site and thus need to use the numbers provided here. 

Edited December 14, 2021 by Arcesius

[pinkrobot_pb]

I barely managed to finish 8 games this year so I don't think the 10 game tier system will be for me. Good luck and have fun everyone!

[HusKy]

2 hours ago, pinkrobot_pb said:

I barely managed to finish 8 games this year so I don't think the 10 game tier system will be for me. Good luck and have fun everyone!

 

I'm not going to be able to finish 10 games either, but you can still participate and have fun going for URs with fellow trophy hunters.

[Walt the Dog]

8 hours ago, Arcesius said:

I don't agree that it unfairly affects non-plat lists. The example of Zuma is one exception to the rule. If you have a game like Zuma, with no UR trophies and no DLC, then the hypothetical platinum trophy would be as rare as the 100% rarity displayed here on PSNP.

 

Once you have DLCs... then that is not the case anymore. And it would be too much of a hassle to manually compute the rarity of a hypothetical platinum for those games. Could you for example tell me what the rarity of Peggle's plat would be, if it had one? (Just to be clear, in the case of Peggle, it would at least certainly be UR, but you get the point.. what about 100% games with DLC and no UR trophies? How would we know what the rarity of a plat would be in that case?) 

 

Personally, I don't care much for the Zuma example anyways, and I would be fine even with removing that rule. It was suggested by someone that in the end didn't even join the event last year...

Just to mention that we had that rule in place for the entirety of the 2021 event and, to my knowledge, no single completed game during the entire year was eligible thanks to that rule. 

 

What we definitely won't do is create more lenient rules to even accept 100% completions with DLC and no UR trophies. As @Copanele mentioned, I have been very vocal about how stupid the DLC rarities are computed here on PSNP and how it is even more stupid that the 100% rarity of a game does not follow the same computations, but we are still hosting an event on this site and thus need to use the numbers provided here. 

 

Since I feel like my point may have been misunderstood (personally, I don't really care about DLC rarity stuff since DLC rarity is a fuck anyway and the way that it works with PSN 100%s makes it effectively impossible to see how many people completed those base lists once one or more DLC show up), I'd like to clarify it: my issue is that given a non-plat game with only non-UR trophies left for 100% (assuming no DLC, so just base trophies) and a platinum game with only non-UR trophies left for plat, the former doesn't count due to the lack of remaining UR trophies, but the latter does count due to the platinum itself being considered the missing UR trophy, something which cannot happen for a PSN 100% by nature (outside of weird cases like The Playroom that have pseudo-plats).

 

Let's take, for example, Sonic the Hedgehog 2: if I were to, say, do the speedrun of the game before the year ends, but wanted to save the Chaos Emerald and Super Sonic trophies for 2022, this would make the game ineligible for me as I could no longer earn any UR trophies for the game in 2022. Meanwhile, I can use Dragon Ball FighterZ just fine despite having done the only UR non-plat trophy already because the platinum itself is also UR.

 

This issue becomes even odder considering that the rules are lenient enough to allow something like Zuma that has no UR trophies to be earned even though logically, it should not count at all on account of having no UR trophies to be earned, thus breaking the "at least one UR trophy remaining" rule.

 

Assuming I haven't misunderstood the rules myself, the best way I could see to fix this would be to allow an exception for the "one UR trophy remaining" rule for PSN 100% games in the event that they had an UR trophy in the first place (effectively allowing the 100% itself to count as an UR a la the Zuma example assuming no DLC). Alternatively, getting rid of the Zuma exception would also more or less fix the inconsistency since while it would retain the unfair advantage to platinum games, it does at least ensure that in order to use a game for this, someone must always be able to earn an Ultra Rare trophy from it within the event.

Edited December 14, 2021 by Walt the Dog

[Copanele]

2 hours ago, Walt the Dog said:

 

Since I feel like my point may have been misunderstood (personally, I don't really care about DLC rarity stuff since DLC rarity is a fuck anyway and the way that it works with PSN 100%s makes it effectively impossible to see how many people completed those base lists once one or more DLC show up), I'd like to clarify it: my issue is that given a non-plat game with only non-UR trophies left for 100% (assuming no DLC, so just base trophies) and a platinum game with only non-UR trophies left for plat, the former doesn't count due to the lack of remaining UR trophies, but the latter does count due to the platinum itself being considered the missing UR trophy, something which cannot happen for a PSN 100% by nature (outside of weird cases like The Playroom that have pseudo-plats).

 

Let's take, for example, Sonic the Hedgehog 2: if I were to, say, do the speedrun of the game before the year ends, but wanted to save the Chaos Emerald and Super Sonic trophies for 2022, this would make the game ineligible for me as I could no longer earn any UR trophies for the game in 2022. Meanwhile, I can use Dragon Ball FighterZ just fine despite having done the only UR non-plat trophy already because the platinum itself is also UR.

 

This issue becomes even odder considering that the rules are lenient enough to allow something like Zuma that has no UR trophies to be earned even though logically, it should not count at all on account of having no UR trophies to be earned, thus breaking the "at least one UR trophy remaining" rule.

 

Assuming I haven't misunderstood the rules myself, the best way I could see to fix this would be to allow an exception for the "one UR trophy remaining" rule for PSN 100% games in the event that they had an UR trophy in the first place (effectively allowing the 100% itself to count as an UR a la the Zuma example assuming no DLC). Alternatively, getting rid of the Zuma exception would also more or less fix the inconsistency since while it would retain the unfair advantage to platinum games, it does at least ensure that in order to use a game for this, someone must always be able to earn an Ultra Rare trophy from it within the event.

Well, the point of that UR 100% completion was more of an exception in case there were 2 or 3 users who wanted to play those 2 specific games  

But well, I can agree with what you are saying regarding the exceptions, therefore only the main rule will remain:

 

A game is only eligible it it had at least one unobtained UR trophy, be it in the main game or DLC.  

[MrHealthy]

26 minutes ago, Copanele said:

Well, the point of that UR 100% completion was more of an exception in case there were 2 or 3 users who wanted to play those 2 specific games  

But well, I can agree with what you are saying regarding the exceptions, therefore only the main rule will remain:

 

A game is only eligible it it had at least one unobtained UR trophy, be it in the main game or DLC.  

That is disappointing to me. As someone who plays a lot of plat-less 100% games there are a lot more games that fall under that exception then just Zuma. I was eyeing 2 of them for my Tier 2 list.

 

I get what @Walt the Dog is saying but it seems like such a small use case I don't expect people to be abusing it to get easy completions. Instead of getting rid of the exception, since so few people are going to use it, just say that those games have to be 100% entirely in 2022. That way options remain open but no one can get an easy completion from it.

[Copanele]

12 minutes ago, MrHealthy said:

That is disappointing to me. As someone who plays a lot of plat-less 100% games there are a lot more games that fall under that exception then just Zuma. I was eyeing 2 of them for my Tier 2 list.

 

I get what @Walt the Dog is saying but it seems like such a small use case I don't expect people to be abusing it to get easy completions. Instead of getting rid of the exception, since so few people are going to use it, just say that those games have to be 100% entirely in 2022. That way options remain open but no one can get an easy completion from it.

I understand what you are saying, but either option will make a group unhappy, we can't please everyone in the end. With the UR trophy only rule, there will be no more confusion at least.

 

Also I will have to mention here, sorry for the multiple tagging, will add it in a spoiler tag:

 

Spoiler

@Baker 

@willythom88

@FreshFromThaDeli

@yuber1234

@AihaLoveleaf

@Vergil

@PlutoRico

@Joe Dubz

@Destructor-8

@HusKy

@Thedah

@ExistentialSolid

@Lonemankane

@VirtualNight

@Don_carlito94

@Kcrack_Km

@MissShake

@Cruscah

@GonzoWARgasm

@Riiszk

@TehUberCheezCatz

@Saori Shirosaki

@Dzware

@Walt the Dog

@FilmFanatic

@Evil_Joker88

@KindaSabbath

@Static_Rook

@Roronora_Zoro666

@TheHarryGamer99

@BrandedBerserk

@Eqill5

@Ich1994-1994

@Arctic Cress

 

GAMES MUST BE SIGNED UP BEFORE COMPLETING THEM!

 

This rule wasn't clear enough, I will also update the main post. Unlimited swaps are available, partials lists are ok, however you must first register a game with the UR trophy then complete it. You can even do so in the same post (e.g. Swap and platinum x). But you can't complete a game and register it at a later date.

Edited December 14, 2021 by Copanele

[MandA60VISE]

I signed up this year but didn't even attempt it much because I was too busy handling life. I'd like to sign up again and like that you grew the list to include ten games and allow us to swap endlessly. Here's my list of ten games I'd like to register for now.

 

Already Started:

-Holy Potatoes! We're in Space!? (2.94%) Currently at 57%

-Star Ocean: Till the End of Time (2.61%) Currently at 1%

-Penny-Punching Princess (3.68%) Currently at 97%, I can change it since I'm close but there's a lengthy grind just for one trophy I keep postponing.

-Trine 2: Complete Story (1.79%) Currently at 7%

-Yakuza Kiwami (3.10%) Currently at 75%

-Darkest Dungeon (2.20%, 0.96%) Currently at 83%

-Shadow of the Colossus PS3 (2.48%) Currently at 87%

-Tokyo 42 (3.72%) Currently at 15%

 

Not Started:

-Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime (3.48%)

-No Straight Roads (2.12%)

 

Some questions. Do 100% lists that don't have a platinum count? As well, do games where the base has no UR trophies but the DLC does count?

[AihaLoveleaf]

23 minutes ago, MandA60VISE said:

Some questions. Do 100% lists that don't have a platinum count? As well, do games where the base has no UR trophies but the DLC does count?

If your list has one of these, and it's unearned:

It's good to go. Otherwise, not eligible. 

[rjkclarke]

I guess I can't let some of my friends have all the fun now can I?

 

Count me in!

 

Plus I've got a fair few games in my backlog with plenty of Ultra Rares in that I really need an incentive to want to return to, so this sounds like a great combination of those things! So I'll slap a list of my first ten together and then go from there I suppose.

 

I'll try and make as many of them as possible align with the  spirit of the thread name, and use them for cleanup where I can.

 

1. Greedfall -  3.88% - 0% Complete  as of right now.... A friend and I have jokingly talked about me going for as we like to put it at least " A trifecta of shit EuroRPG's for Wankers" platinums (I actually do like these games by Spiders). I would have already been playing this for another Event anyway, so I might as well add it here as well.
2. Little Nightmares - 4.01%..... 0% Complete  I think this just about qualifies, as it has got one ultra rare trophy....... Plus a time travelling Goblin from the future seemingly, who seems to have the knowledge that I've already played it (a very friendly Goblin, who is awesome too ?,) put in a review request with me for this, even though I haven't played it yet. So I guess this is me putting it down in concrete. So now I HAVE to do it  I'll swap this out or something if that trophy stops being ultra rare.
3. Limbo - 2.16% - 0% Complete
4. Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (PS3) - 3.68% - 78% Complete
5. Pool Nation (PS3) - 0.49%- 90% Complete
6. Dragon Age Inquisition (PS4) - 76% Complete.... I'm hoping this one counts, there's at least two DLC trophies that are ultra rare, I'll swap it out if it's a problem though
7. Singularity (PS3) - 4.37% - 70% Complete
8. Star Ocean: The Last Hope International (PS3) - 0.86% - 31% Complete.... This is going to look funny if I actually do manage to get this one knocked off - it'll be at least ten years since I started it, that's quite the gap
9. Red Faction: Guerilla (PS3) - 0.73% - 36% Complete
10. Warframe (PS4) - 0.11% - 90%Complete - Some of the last few trophies I need are ultra rare, so it seems fitting to return to this and get those knocked out too. 

We'll see how I get on with those. I have plenty of other unstarted games that I'll potentially be able to add if I end up getting through those ten quicker than I expect to, but obviously out of all of those things Star Ocean will take the longest. 

 

But this should be an awesome motivator to actually go back to some of these games that I really couldn't be bothered with for the longest time, so I'm looking forward to that, alongside reading everyone else's eventual progress.

 

Looking forward to it!

Edited December 14, 2021 by rjkclarke

[PlutoRico]

Thank you for tagging me Copanele, I really thought I could complete games as they come and then register them on this thread ?

 

In that case here is a tentative list I've made : 

 

 

I will keep it updated if I decide to change anything. 

 

I also had a question, do I gotta wait until January 1st midnight of my timezone for my games to be counted or is there a centralized time that we could all agree on ? 

 

Excited for the event to start, good luck everyone ?

[MandA60VISE]

1 hour ago, AihaLoveleaf said:

If your list has one of these, and it's unearned:

It's good to go. Otherwise, not eligible. 

Alright, thanks for the confirmation. Might change to Arkham City or one of the couple of 100% URs I have sitting around. Will see after I start.

[Walt the Dog]

@Copanele (I am not quoting the thing because clearing spoiler tags is a bitch on mobile in general and I don't want my quote to ping everyone again)

 

> You can even do so in the same post (e.g. Swap and platinum x). But you can't complete a game and register it at a later date.

 

Is there any particular cutoff for this? I ask because I have a pachinko game running at all times that is effectively impossible to prep properly due to horrendous RNG (thus irresponsible to put in my tier at all). Assuming I were to get the plat, it's possible I would be unaware of it for a good 12-18 hours depending on when it popped (it goes in 13-hour shifts and sometimes it ends when I'm asleep or at work). Would it be fine to declare as soon as I'm aware of the plat popping or should I just declare it now to be safe and abuse the infinite swaps to swap it out for something else if/when I get the tier to 9/10 and it still hasn't popped?

 

Edited December 14, 2021 by Walt the Dog