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New Rurouni Kenshin and New Bleach anime

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hella hyped!! I have the whole DVD set for Rurouni Kenshin and watched it like crazy. Bleach I need to finish up before this new final arc comes out. 

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I've been hyped for new Bleach since it was announced.

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Let the justice deal with it. Dunno why people would need to stop watching his stuff.

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Really happy to see a new Rurouni Kenshin anime. I'm curious if it's something original or a remake that's truer to the manga.

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Separating the art from the artist is something I believe every fan should have the right to practice. I certainly do, especially when it isn't anything as extreme as child pornography.

 

However, respect those who are willing to take a stand against his works. By him possessing it, it means he is fine with children being sexually abused for his own satisfaction. This isn't a discussion if he possessed some lolita material/art, instead, these were actual children being abused. I hope he hasn't practiced that himself, but we only know the facts regarding that situation, so I'm only basing my thoughts off of that. These aren't users being sanctimonious; they know his actions are virulent. 

 

 

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I like Rurouni Kenshin a lot. It's one of the better Shounen series. I don't know if I have any interest in an anime as I read the manga and don't really like anime anymore anyway. If anyone is looking to get into the series, I would encourage them to pirate the manga. 

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3 hours ago, SnowxSakura said:

He's the creator of rurouni kenshin so it is his work? You should care, as he had sexual exploitation videos of minors. This is no different than the Nidome no jinsei author having the anime and manga cancelled for his racial remarks towards koreans and chinese. I guess videos of kids being abused is more socially acceptable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

If he's done something illegal then let the Japanese law system deal with him. The author might me a scumbag but it doesn't automatically make his manga bad and invalidate his work. Harvey Weinstein produced some of the greatest and most popular movies of all time but I'm not going to bin my movie collection just because he turned out to be a pervert.

 

3 hours ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said:

And his attraction to underage girls is present in Rurouni Kenshin. The most important relationship in the series is the blossoming romance between Kenshin and Kaoru, when he's 28 and she's 17. An other budding romance is between Aoshi and Misao, when he's 26 and she's 16. 

 

The age of consent in Japan is 13 years. Yes, I'm sure people in 19th century Japan would be totally outraged with a 28 year old guy getting involved with a 17 year old girl. 

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55 minutes ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

If he's done something illegal then let the Japanese law system deal with him. The author might me a scumbag but it doesn't automatically make his manga bad and invalidate his work. Harvey Weinstein produced some of the greatest and most popular movies of all time but I'm not going to bin my movie collection just because he turned out to be a pervert.

 

Who here has asked for anyone to bin their Rurouni Kenshin collection? The poster was surprised that any company continue to work with the author.

 

Your Harvey Weinstein comparison is not at all the same here. Weinstein was ousted from his company and has been ostracized. He still gets some royalties, so if anyone wants to skip any future purchases from The Weinstein Co, good for them, but he's no longer involved with those pieces of media.

 

Nobuhiro Watsuki is still involved with Rurouni Kenshin, he's still the author, currently writing new chapters of the manga, and is involved with the future of the franchise. To support him professionally is to not only directly give him money, but also keep him relevant in a genre that has a fanbase full of children.

 

I also have to add that calling Weinstein a pervert is severely downplaying what he did. Weinstein is a rapist. A rapist that also used his position of power to ruin the lives of the women he preyed on.

 

Whether or not you're doing it intentionally, you're downplaying what these men did by not specifying what they did. Weinstein raped women. As a buyer of child porn, Watsuki was complicit in the sexual abuse of children.

 

As long as you're going to continue advocating for Watsuki's continued presence in the entertainment industry, be honest about what he did. 

 

There is no "if" or "might" about it. He fully confessed.

 

55 minutes ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

The age of consent in Japan is 13 years. Yes, I'm sure people in 19th century Japan would be totally outraged with a 28 year old guy getting involved with a 17 year old girl. 

 

The age of consent in Japan is a little bit more complicated than that due prefectures having different age of consent laws, but whatever the case, you should be able to know that something can be wrong, even if it's legal. At least, I hope you understand that an adult sexually abusing a thirteen year old is wrong, irrespective of what the law says about it.

 

First you said it has nothing to do with his work. When it was pointed out that his attraction to underage girls is reflected in the series, you attempt to justify it.

 

The manga wasn't written in the 19th Century, it was written in the 20th Century by an author that has admitted he's attracted to underage girls. No one forced him to give the characters those ages.

 

What's messed up here with your posts is that you dismissed his actions as unimportant. It sucks that people are willing to look the other away and keep him relevant, but your post was on another level when you responded to someone bringing up the author's possession of child porn, with "Who cares".

 

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1 hour ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said:

The age of consent in Japan is a little bit more complicated than that due prefectures having different age of consent laws, but whatever the case, you should be able to know that something can be wrong, even if it's legal. At least, I hope you understand that an adult sexually abusing a thirteen year old is wrong, irrespective of what the law says about it.

 

I never said anything in defense of sexual abuse, where does that even come from? The law says age of consent is 13, it doesn't say abusing anyone is okay. You may object to the age of consent being so low and it may be wrong from your personal perspective, but they come from a completely different culture so maybe to them it seems perfectly fine. 

 

2 hours ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said:

The manga wasn't written in the 19th Century, it was written in the 20th Century by an author that has admitted he's attracted to underage girls. No one forced him to give the characters those ages.

 

The manga is set in the 19th century, considering the historical background there is nothing wrong with it. Actually, even without taking into account the historical setting, it's still perfectly fine by today's Japanese standards.

 

2 hours ago, Abby_TheLastofUs said:

What's messed up here with your posts is that you dismissed his actions as unimportant. It sucks that people are willing to look the other away and keep him relevant, but your post was on another level when you responded to someone bringing up the author's possession of child porn, with "Who cares".

If you google this guy, on his wikipedia it says: 

Upon the anime's 25th anniversary in January 2021, Rurouni Kenshin received congratulatory messages from fifteen manga authors, including Nobuyuki Anzai (MÄR, Flame of Recca), Riichiro Inagaki (EyeShield 21, Dr. Stone), Eichiro Oda (One Piece), Takeshi Obata (Death Note, Hikaru no Go), Masashi Kishimoto (Naruto, Samurai 8), Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro (Toriko, Build King), Shinya Suzuki (Mr. Fullswing), Hideaki Sorachi (Gintama), Hiroyuki Takei (Shaman King) , Yasuhiro Nightow (Trigun), Kazuhiro Fujita (Ushio and Tora), Yūsei Matsui (Assassination Classroom) and Kentaro Yabuki (Black Cat, To LOVE Ru).[134]

 

The most famous and successful contemporary manga authors went out of their way to congratulate him on the anniversary, so as you can see, literally nobody cares. If you think I'm "so messed up on another level", at least I'm in the ranks with Oda, Kishimoto and others. So you might consider avoiding their works from now on 😁

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1 hour ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

I never said anything in defense of sexual abuse, where does that even come from? The law says age of consent is 13, it doesn't say abusing anyone is okay. You may object to the age of consent being so low and it may be wrong from your personal perspective, but they come from a completely different culture so maybe to them it seems perfectly fine. 

 

An adult having sex with a thirteen year old is sexual abuse, as a thirteen year old can not consent to having sex with an adult.

 

You seem unwilling to condemn the act of an adult having sex with a child, hiding behind the law as it has any bearing of whether something is morally right or wrong.

 

Furthermore, this "different culture" argument is bullshit. Japan, like many other countries has had activists advocating for changing age of consent laws. Japan is not a monolith. It' why prefectures have different age of consent laws, because Japanese activists found the national age of consent to be abhorrent.

 

This is something that has happened all over the world. The current age of consent laws in the US are due to more than a hundred years of activism.

 

Recently a member of the Democratic Party of Japan had to resign because of his opposition to raising the age of consent nationally, while a member of the Constitutional Democratic Party of Japan said the party is in favor of raising the age of consent. 

 

There is no national consensus as to whether the age of consent in Japan should be raised. There are people that want it raised, there are people that want it to stay the same, and then there are those that ambivalent or undecided.

 

The current law has been scrutinized over the years, not only because it's been seen setting the age of consent too low, but because the law has been used against survivors of sexual violence, to defend their rapists in court. The recent Flower Demo movement began as a response to how poorly the law treated survivors of sexual violence. 

 

You seem to have this racist view of Japan as wholly accepting of the sexual abuse of children, when that isn't the case. The laws don't always reflect what the people want, which is why there's been so much activism to bring change. 

 

And let me say it again in case it wasn't clear enough the first time. An adult having sex with a child is sexual abuse, that's not a matter of perspective, that's what it is.

 

1 hour ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

The manga is set in the 19th century, considering the historical background there is nothing wrong with it. Actually, even without taking into account the historical setting, it's still perfectly fine by today's Japanese standards.

 

So you've conclusively gone from not caring because it wasn't his work, to that there's nothing wrong with it.

 

Gotcha.

 

You're just really keen on defending a guy that was caught with child porn.

 

1 hour ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

The most famous and successful contemporary manga authors went out of their way to congratulate him on the anniversary,

 

That points to a problem with the industry. Hollywood has had a similar problem with how it has tolerated and even empowered rapists and predators.

 

1 hour ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

literally nobody cares. 

 

Literally some people do care, because you're talking to one right now. Literally, some people care or he wouldn't have been arrested in the first place and the law wouldn't have been changed which is what led to his eventual arrest.

 

Do you not know what the world literally means?

 

1 hour ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

If you think I'm "so messed up on another level", at least I'm in the ranks with Oda, Kishimoto and others. 

 

You're only in their ranks in regards to dismissing the sexual abuse of children.

 

1 hour ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

So you might consider avoiding their works from now on 1f601.png

 

Yeah, not a problem.

 

 

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I'm looking forward to both honestly. I'm so hyped for Bleach's return and I hope it gets english dubbed relatively quickly. Maybe even a simuldub...? 😍

 

I also hope the Rurouni Kenshin anime is a reboot/remake that covers the entire manga this time. Please? 😓

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Hello Himura-Kun, that was total unexpected. Rurouni Kenshin is one of my favourite manga a fantastic blend of history drama and fiction. I need to rewatch the movies again.

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4 hours ago, Silver-I-Chariot said:

The manga is set in the 19th century, considering the historical background there is nothing wrong with it. Actually, even without taking into account the historical setting, it's still perfectly fine by today's Japanese standards.

No, it isn't. 

 

Having lived in Japan; this would be seen as manipulative. Recently, a mangaka got caught trying to pull some shit like that. The rest of your arguments are ridiculous; but you stating something so untrue here needed to be addressed. 

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As someone who doesn't enjoy manga, I'm so excited that years of waiting for Bleach anime to get revived have finally paid off!

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Bleach has always been on my backlog since high school, like... 10 years more or less. Always in and out for it, but I think the grind must be taken again. Since the Hueco Mundo arc, the series fall rapid from quality and the fights were even tedious to watch.

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I hope they don t censor Bleach from blood and gore . As a whole the arc is really awesome except the ending :)

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On 12/24/2021 at 8:30 AM, SnowxSakura said:

I'm surprised any company would be willing to pick up rurouni kenshin, considering what the creator of it did

 

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/11/21-1/rurouni-kenshin-manga-author-charged-with-possession-of-child-pornography

He's hardly the first manga author to be caught with cp though which is why.

 

That aside, I don't really want a remake of Ruroni, it's one of those series that does it all right the first time and you shouldn't mess with it after that. Like Cowboy Bebop.

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On 12/25/2021 at 4:29 PM, bobby_94916 said:

I hope they don t censor Bleach from blood and gore . As a whole the arc is really awesome except the ending :)

as far as I know, there isn't any censoring for TYBW arc 😉

 

On 12/24/2021 at 9:47 PM, Xenoblast91 said:

Since the Hueco Mundo arc, the series fall rapid from quality and the fights were even tedious to watch.

Animation wise, Lost agent arc easily tops Arrancar's. Not sure if you actually saw the last animated arc, but it even shows a lot of character development especially for Ichigo. I wouldn't say the series fell rapidly when it's only 2 arcs after the Arrancar's and the final one being the best imo.

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