How is this an Assassin's Creed game?

[Willreaper41]

So I finally remembered and got around to beating this game and it's not bad, standard as far as things go these days, but not bad. What I don't get is how is it an assassins' creed game? Besides a few small things it has little to nothing to do with previous games, he isn't even or never even became an assassin. Remove the artifacts and a couple other minor things and it is another open world game, much closer to say far cry than anything else. Since I don't have a ps5 yet I haven't played Valhalla at all but I assume it is basically the exact same thing, just in a slightly different setting. So I guess I have to wonder where the AC series is going when they seem to have more or less abandoned the entire assassin part? Most of the pervious games you had to focus on stealth and finesse, now it is much easier and faster to just go in swinging usually. I get they have already covered a number of eras and cultures and putting anything in a setting with guns more useful than Syndicate would be pointless but there has to be some way for the series to get back to its roots.

[djb5f]

Did you play Origins?  From what I read, that started the modern-day AC, which Odyssey and Valhalla followed and expanded,

[Willreaper41]

1 minute ago, djb5f said:

Did you play Origins?  From what I read, that started the modern-day AC, which Odyssey and Valhalla followed and expanded,

Yes and while I agree it is certainly the start of this new gameplay style, for better or worse, it still was at least based in the assassin's. The main character is an assassin, there is an assassins league and everything. That's my point though, even since that they seem to have dropped the assassin thing completely. Maybe they put it back in Valhalla but even knowing nothing about that game I feel confident saying it is exactly the same as Odyssey.

[mega-tallica]

Because the old style AC games got stale and the series needed to do something different to keep it alive which is what they did. They basically turned it into an RPG. People complain when a franchise stays the same, people complain when a franchise tries something new, moral of the story is it's impossible to please everybody. 

 

Origins and Odyssey were pretty good and breathed fresh air into the AC series. Valhalla on the other hand, was quite lame and naturally repetitive so now the RPG era of Assassin's Creed is becoming stale so it may be a good time to revert back to the traditional style of AC games, enough time has passed. Ubisoft are the kings of beating a dead horse until there's nothing left to squeeze out of it. Nobody really knows or cares about the convoluted AC story anymore, it doesn't really matter at this point. The point is the story never ends, it's not designed to end, it'll just keep going so Ubisoft can continue making the same game over and over again with the same rehashed story and people will continue buying the new game every year like myself just because there isn't anything else to play. 

[Zephrese]

Looking at Odyssey purely from a lore perspective, the Cult of Kosmos served as a precursor organization to the Templar much like how the Order of The Ancients in Origins did.

(Snakes are even featured among both; Kosmos basing their symbolism off of the mythical Greek Python, and the Ancients being referred to collectively as "the Snake")

 

It is not until the end of Origins that the precursor to the Assassin Brotherhood, the Hidden Ones, is founded. The Templar in all of its forms, however, has existed for far longer.

So basically Origins is the origins of the Assassin Order, whilst Odyssey is the origins of the Templar. (Or at least one of their oldest - if not the oldest - precursors) 

Edited January 27, 2022 by Zephrese

[Argandalf]

Well, I few things on this:

• Let us not forget Assassins and Templars are relatively modern organizations, and they are both seeking different objectives but all of them related to the precursor race, the ISU.
• Origins is not about an assassin, is about a Medjay, Bayek of Siwa who is in seeking revenge with this wife from his son killers. Which happen to be an organization that ressembles the templars in their intentions. It is only at the end of the game, when Bayek and Aya make a decision and the Hidden Ones are born, so he cannot be considered an assassin during the main game.
• Odyssey is about the Heir of Memories and has a strong ISU connection, so it IS related to the AC universe and lore, though not directly with a brotherhood based on the role she is playing in the years to come. Plues, we see a prototype of the Templars in the Cult of Kosmos.
• Valhalla shows there are stablished Assassin's brotherhoods through Basim and Hytham. Still the main character is not an assassin, but he is a Sage. It tells us the story of how the ISU were destroyed, through the eyes of Eivor and his mysthical journeys. Again, he is a Sage and gets deeper into the ISU lore and provides a lot of insight on the collapse of their civilizations.

 

I think these reminders can clarify the role of each character in the games, and even though they are not what we originally knew as an Assassin (Altair, Ezio, Connor, etc...) they play very relevant roles in the world of Assassins Creed, so yes, they all have the right to be part of the franchise.

 

These are my 2 cents on the topic!

 

- May the Father of Understanding guide Us

Edited January 27, 2022 by Argandalf

[MarcusPunisher]

The only part that felt like an Assassins Creed game was the DLC of Legacy of the First Blade and partly The Fate of Atlantis for the ancient civilization plot that was introduced in the second game. While I really like Odyssey, it more or so proves that the developers have no idea how to progress the bigger narrative and are just throwing stuff on the wall, regardless if the series loses its identity.