da-Noob123 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Pretty much what I expected though the minimal collectibles trophies is a nice surprise. I'm sure in a month or so there will be a NG+ and Ultra Hard trophies added as has become the norm of late. Which to be frank, I find annoying and would much rather they be a part of the base game. Hopefully there won't be a dozen new difficulties with challenges like Days Gone did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SpaceIsDandy Posted February 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2022 All the complainers still buying this (and every other AAA game with an easy list + every stack of every breakthrough game) why only complain on here why not vote with your wallet? ? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrey23 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Any Missable Trophies, like in the first Game ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegoselles Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Platinum seems easy, the only thing that leaves me in doubt is the level, that already in the first one, reaching a certain level was difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stardroid Posted February 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Like always the thread will get hijacked by strawmen strawmanning with their strawman arguments. Nobody in here is claiming easy lists are the end of the world. What is being said is that by far the most dominating type of list in the AAA sphere and also indie are increasingly easy. Why are some of you shaming people who just want harder trophies from time to time. The fact that some of you are oblivious to the fact that you mock a certain type of trophy hunter while simultaneously preaching inclusiveness for all gamers ... How does this hypocrisy escape you people. I'm so tired of almost always having to justify myself why I think I want a challenging trophy list from time to time! It's almost like I experience a hobby differently from you! You have your easy lists, you guys have plenty of them! I don't! I have to look into the obscure corners of the gaming world for a challenging list or I have to add my own challenges! Like speedrunning Bound and Shadow of the Colossus. Some of you guys really need to unplug the head from your butts and stop being hypocrites. You are in no position to tell anyone how to experience trophy hunting, and you shouldn't strawman what is being said in order to pretend there is some elitist plot going on here by some hardcore gamers who just don't want the average joe to get tuh trophiez! I swear some of you think you're smarter than you really are. It's whatever to me now though, this discussion has been done to death and it's always the same anyway. I don't think I've ever met anyone in the UR hunting community either who is like "these damn casuals, brooo, hate them". Nobody cares. All some of us want are challenging and more creative lists. Enjoy your argument though, I ain't having any of it anymore. Edited February 14, 2022 by Stardroid 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceIsDandy Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Stardroid said: Hating people for how/what they want to trophy hunt is dumb but I think people complaining about it just to turn around and buy it regardless is just as dumb. "Man I really hate how this movie is directed and shot but I'm still going to see in in theaters". Edited February 14, 2022 by SpaceIsDandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mUnday-- Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Looks good to me. Horizon is my relaxing game this month. Elden Ring will give enough stress. ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscoito18 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Another boring platinum title. Jesus, literally anything other than this or Platinum Trophy would be better. Lazy trophy titles overall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-1138 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Whelp, the names may be uncreative as shit as ever, but at least they've learned to typeset their trophy titles to a tee this time. Baaaaaaaaaaaaby steps. Maybe by the time we get Horizon: The Secret of Saurus Rock on PS7 in 2034, they might have even started making some those wacky out of the box trophies that seem to be a dying trend anyway. Edited February 14, 2022 by AK-1138 I rolled a one on Alliteration resistance and must adjust accordingly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POEman553 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Yes, it looks like an easy Platinum but I'd prefer something like this compared to Breakthrough Gaming Platinums that steal money from players. We have to remember we're not normal players and we're a subset of a subset (basically, not every hardcore gamer out there is a trophy hunter). What's easy for people on this site may not be easy for other people. Getting the Suns in Horizon Zero Dawn wasn't that hard if you maxed out your gear and had gotten the special armor (which I'm surprised there isn't a similar trophy in Horizon: FW). After that the times were easily beatable. Maybe they'll add the max stripes as a DLC trophy with the inevitable New Game+ and New Game+ on Ultra Hard trophies. I'll be getting the collector's edition with both PS4/PS5 versions in it and the only thing I'm mad about is it's digital only. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saiyanbloodstyle Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I didn't enjoy the cauldrons in the first game, maybe it's better this time? Guess i'll have to see but i'm sure i'll enjoy the game overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da-Noob123 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 hours ago, carrey23 said: Any Missable Trophies, like in the first Game ? I don't think so, none of the descriptions sound missable, at least from the cursory glance I gave the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianSwordsman Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Everyone saying it’s easy clearly didn’t see the requirements for Hidden Story Trophy 6. Might need to back up a save for that one! No but I’m suuuper excited to play this Edited February 14, 2022 by ArabianSwordsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerdip Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Easy lists don't bother me I just want the list to require you to experience everything the game has to offer. I like 100% completion trophies so you can get the most out of the game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraezr Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 When was the last time a PS Studios game had a genuinely tough trophy list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JD-D2 Posted February 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Given the first game, I truly don't know why anyone would expect this to have a challenging trophy list. It's fine. Horizon is not a game about challenge unless you want it to be. It's there to sell PlayStations to more people. Gran Turismo comes out next month—that's probably going to be hard. Returnal isn't easy. Destruction AllStars is under a 2% plat rate right now. Demon's Souls won't be easy to the first-time player. There are plenty of difficult plats among PS exclusives; this just isn't and never was going to be one of them. Edited February 14, 2022 by JD-D2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiCBZ Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I'm not a big fan of so easy AAA games Trophy list, but this one is pretty much as I was expecting. I hope things will change in the future. That said, I doubt I will play it, I didn't like Zero Dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deluziion90 Posted February 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2022 So probably a great game with good story and great graphics and some easy trophies for an easy platinum. Just what I needed so I can blast through this in 7 days and prepare myself for Elden Ring where the platinum will probably be the opposite of this easy one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darling Baphomet Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said: "What's the point in having the best gaming experience I can have, if I can't use that experience to show that I'm better than someone else?! If no one is going to look at my trophies and feel inferior, then I might as well just play on the easiest setting and spoil the whole thing for myself!" Chill the fuck out, my dude. Some of us just actually like our trophy lists to meaningfully represent our time with a game. If that's not the case for you, then fine - but if you earn trophies for some reason besides wanting to mark the fullness of your gaming experiences, that would suggest you being the vain one. Personally, I like my platinums to be markers of games I've enjoyed to completion - but this doesn't seem to be the case for you. And if you've bothered with platinuming five hundred games simply because you like the feeling of having participation trophies on your page, then, well, I have bad news for you. 6 hours ago, SpaceIsDandy said: Hating people for how/what they want to trophy hunt is dumb but I think people complaining about it just to turn around and buy it regardless is just as dumb. "Man I really hate how this movie is directed and shot but I'm still going to see in in theaters". I imagine you must not buy many games if you believe that it's "dumb" to buy any game you have even a single complaint about. 5 hours ago, JD-D2 said: Gran Turismo comes out next month—that's probably going to be hard. Returnal isn't easy. Destruction AllStars is under a 2% plat rate right now. Demon's Souls won't be easy to the first-time player. There are plenty of difficult plats among PS exclusives; this just isn't and never was going to be one of them. I would point out that Returnal is fairly easy for a roguelike - you don't even need to beat any boss more than once - and much of the platinum struggle is just trying to find randomly spawning symbols to scan. DaS, on the other hand, is both a PS+ game and a multiplayer game that lost its playerbase quickly, which results in a very inflated rarity. With that said, I don't think anyone wants HFW to be the next Dark Souls, just for it to have a trophy list which is more comprehensive of the breadth of a game. From the looks of it you don't need to get anywhere near 100% completion of the actual game itself for the platinum. Of course, we haven't played the actual game yet. But Sony's been demonstrating a worrying tendency to treat platinums as participation trophies that require no effort to obtain, and thus have very little satisfaction for serious trophy hunters. I know I would have enjoyed if Rift Apart actually wanted you to beat the game on hard, or finish a second playthrough, for instance. Edited February 14, 2022 by Darling Baphomet 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Darling Baphomet said: Chill the fuck out, my dude. Some of us just actually like our trophy lists to meaningfully represent our time with a game. If that's not the case for you, then fine - but if you earn trophies for some reason besides wanting to mark the fullness of your gaming experiences, that would suggest you being the vain one. Personally, I like my platinums to be markers of games I've enjoyed to completion - but this doesn't seem to be the case for you. And if you've bothered with platinuming five hundred games simply because you like the feeling of having participation trophies on your page, then, well, I have bad news for you. O...kay... ...you've told me to "Chill Out"... but then listed a bunch of stuff I basically agree with... so I don't really know where to go here I guess I just don't feel like an easy list is a detriment to a game. I chose what difficulty to play based on what I'm capable of, and what is challenging to me, not what the trophy list requires... as everyone is free and able to do. I'm not saying shooting for a challenge is a bad thing - quite the opposite, it's what makes games fun - but I don't (and can't) expect every platinum to reflect my own ability level - if they all did, that would be phenomenal - it would be a phenomena! ? I've not got Wolfenstein 2 platted, for example, as Mein Lieben is so wildly beyond my capability that I haven't even attempted it, but I still liked the experience I had with the game - and I don't think that just because the platinum requirements are out of my league, that I have the right to complain about the trophy list... it just isn't pitched at my level. It's the same with Forbidden West. I won't just play on Easy, because that's all that's required for the platinum - I'll play on whatever difficulty provides a fun time - and if that nets the platinum, great! In the end, both the Wolfenstein 2 incomplete list, and the (presumed) Forbidden West complete one will still mark my gaming experience. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darling Baphomet Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said: I'm not saying shooting for a challenge is a bad thing - quite the opposite, it's what makes games fun - but I don't (and can't) expect every platinum to reflect my own ability level - if they all did, that would be phenomenal - it would be a phenomena! Well, a page ago you were calling people who wanted a harder trophy list, and I quote, "folks who wrap so much of their self-worth in the blanket of their PSN Profiles, that they are rendered unable to parse the idea that they still have the option to play a game on a higher difficulty, regardless of the baseline requirements of the platinum." Perhaps it was just self-degradation on your part, then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Darling Baphomet said: Well, a page ago you were calling people who wanted a harder trophy list, and I quote, "folks who wrap so much of their self-worth in the blanket of their PSN Profiles, that they are rendered unable to parse the idea that they still have the option to play a game on a higher difficulty, regardless of the baseline requirements of the platinum." Perhaps it was just self-degradation on your part, then. Those aren’t contradictory posts though I play games at an appropriate challenge level for my ability. If the platinum requires that level? Great! If the platinum requires less than that? That’s fine - I’ll get it as I go. If the platinum requires more than that? Oh well, can’t win ‘em all. In all cases, the platinum list doesn’t set the difficulty level - I do… and in the case of most games, so can anyone else. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sendai-Horatio Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) You know, they may add a bunch of trophies post release like they did with the original. When I did 100% on the trophy list, the added trophies were much harder than the originals. Edited February 14, 2022 by Sendai-Horatio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pot1414 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said: Those aren’t contradictory posts though I play games at an appropriate challenge level for my ability. If the platinum requires that level? Great! If the platinum requires less than that? That’s fine - I’ll get it as I go. If the platinum requires more than that? Oh well, can’t win ‘em all. In all cases, the platinum list doesn’t set the difficulty level - I do… and in the case of most games, so can anyone else. I believe that the subject requires more nuance. You start with sarcasm and then make the assumption that "folks who wrap so much of their self-worth in the blanket of their PSN Profiles, that they are rendered unable to parse the idea that they still have the option to play a game on a higher difficulty, regardless of the baseline requirements of the platinum". You are forgetting the actual trophy hunting. What me and many other people enjoy beyond gaming is going after trophies so setting arbitrary goals isn't as fun. Also some people enjoy playing with the statistics. I have met a lot of people who collect ultra rare trophies including many who are at the top with over 2k of them and all of them do so just because they enjoy it and don't feel superior about it contrary to the elitist stereotype that exists. Yes at the end of the day you decide if you are going to apply handicaps while going for trophies but that doesn't mean people can't speak their minds and offer negative criticism while asking for more imaginative and/or challenging lists. There's nothing wrong with expressing a small complaint about your niche hobby and it gets quite tiring when the "who cares geez" brigade comes and calls you out for "crying" like they are above it all, looking down on the peasants complaining from their ivory towers even though you just expressed a small complaint while being in the calmest state possible... We all want to have fun but we have to remember that we are on a forum specifically about trophies so that's going to play an important role in the discussions and it's just silly to just respond with the classic "just have fun, trophies are worthless lolz". By the way this last one isn't referring to you. I'm just mentioning it because it is very common in the threads where any kind of complaint about trophies is expressed. Also it is very sad that the most upvoted post is a ridiculous strawman about wolfenstein ignoring the logical middle ground. Finally yes I'm going to play both Horizon games regardless of trophies but that's going to take a while since I'm racing to finish my ps3 backlog lol. Pray for me? Edited February 15, 2022 by pot1414 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluziion90 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Sendai-Horatio said: You know, they may add a bunch of trophies post release like they did with the original. When I did 100% on the trophy list, the added trophies were much harder than the originals. Even though the added ng+ and hard mode were a challenge you could still speedrun the game in ~5/6hrs and ignore most of it. It felt more like an annoying forced extra run for 100% but you can't please everyone how they think about it. Can't tell much about the story dlc they added as it's been too long ago and I can't remember much of it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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