Popular Post Infected Elite Posted May 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2022 wasnt sure what group to put this under but Read Below https://www.ign.com/articles/embracer-group-enters-agreement-to-acquire-eidos-crystal-dynamics-square-enix-montreal-and-more-tomb-raider-deus-ex 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephrese Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Embracer owns Gearbox (the company behind Borderlands) and Nordic Games/THQ Nordic, so this is just another example of them throwing money at things. They appear to have a surprisingly massive truckload of money for that exact purpose if all of the things that Nordic has acquired recently is an indication of anything. lmao 300 million dollars for all of that is probably worth it to Square given how their - often unreasonably high - expectations for those studios and their games weren't met. So to you and I it sounds like very little considering what's included in this deal, but to Square it's likely a worthwhile deal to them. Saw someone had commented this, which seems like a possible reason behind Sony not jumping on this deal themselves/Square selling all of this for seemingly so little: Personally I highly doubt that this is the case or has anything to do with this, although I can understand what they're getting at to an extent. Besides, I didn't think Microsoft was going to get another huge publisher so quickly after acquiring Bethesda, or that Sony would spend almost $4 billion on just Bungie alone. Who even knows what's going on with all of these massive acquisitions anymore. ? Edited May 2, 2022 by Zephrese 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 Yeah i can see expectations from Eidos and CD werent met at all. But i am hoping TR series stays multiplatform. Having it compete with another like game such as Uncharted is dumb. DMC competed with God of War for years until GoW went this new direction. But Sony didn't stop DMC. But i can see Square being happy, considering CD released the flop known as Avengers. No way they made profit on that. I haven't looked though. We will see what happens but like you said it probably won't mean much to us. We will still get TR on ps5. Plus i expect Sony now to purchase Square Enix, as this is just the montreal division that got bought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryogenicide_X Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Shame, I'd love Sony to buy them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar Clown Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Looks like Legacy of Kain might finally get an HD upgrade, since it was the only Crystal Dynamics series SE never wanted to give one to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Conor Posted May 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2022 Hopefully Embracer Group gives these developers more free reign to make the stuff they actually want to. Square-Enix today are not the Square we fell in love with in the 90s. The fewer IPs languishing unloved in their vaults, the better. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRedMaverick Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Cautiously optimistic about this. Deus Ex deserves a proper ending after the cliffhanger in Mankind Divided. Sleeping Dogs 2 would be nice as well 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majob Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Apparently the low price tag is because Embracer is taking on the remaining debt for those studios as well. Don't know how to feel about this but I figured it would happen since just about every game those studios have released in the SE era were financial flops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raveniteh Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, TheRedMaverick said: Cautiously optimistic about this. Deus Ex deserves a proper ending after the cliffhanger in Mankind Divided. Sleeping Dogs 2 would be nice as well All of this. I desperately want new Deus Ex game, that series deservers way more love than Square Enix gave it recently. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 30 minutes ago, majob said: Apparently the low price tag is because Embracer is taking on the remaining debt for those studios as well. Don't know how to feel about this but I figured it would happen since just about every game those studios have released in the SE era were financial flops even the tomb raider reboots were flops? i didnt pay attention to sales but i know Avengers and Deus Ex didnt reach sales goals, i also don't think Guardians of the Galaxy sold well at launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Infected Elite said: even the tomb raider reboots were flops? i didnt pay attention to sales but i know Avengers and Deus Ex didnt reach sales goals, i also don't think Guardians of the Galaxy sold well at launch. Yeah, they poured stupid amounts of money into promotion to try and make the Tomb Raider games appeal to the Call of Duty/ Gears of War crowds which made the break-even point obnoxiously high. The games themselves recouped the actual development costs which is why they made three of them, even Shadow of the Tomb Raider sold 9 million copies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachen Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Hopefully this brings Legacy of Kain out of the pits. A new game or remakes would be fantastic, was never going to happen under SE watch but the future just got a bit more hopeful for this series IMO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Squeenix was never good with Eidos or Crystal Dynamics. Glad to see them out from under their thumb. Of course, it might be a case of "meet the new boss, same as the old boss", but we'll have to wait and see. It's sad, though, that I like Square more when they divest themselves of properties, rather than acquire (or create) them. Edited May 2, 2022 by starcrunch061 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 55 minutes ago, Stan Lee said: Yeah, they poured stupid amounts of money into promotion to try and make the Tomb Raider games appeal to the Call of Duty/ Gears of War crowds which made the break-even point obnoxiously high. The games themselves recouped the actual development costs which is why they made three of them, even Shadow of the Tomb Raider sold 9 million copies. Well we know another TR is coming. without Square it could turn out to be a very good thing. Still, I've played the gears series, beat them all and honestly...its a generic cover shooter. I didnt hate it but definitely didn't see the massive hype it has gained. Why would Square think they should appeal to that crowd, aside from sales numbers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MidnightDragon Posted May 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 2, 2022 At least it isn’t Microsoft. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, MidnightDragon said: At least it isn’t Microsoft. thankfully. They wouldn't know what to do with the IPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Just now, Infected Elite said: thankfully. They wouldn't know what to do with the IPs. Or not let them release on anything but XBox and PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, MidnightDragon said: Or not let them release on anything but XBox and PC even though i own an xbox, gross. I wouldn't like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, Infected Elite said: even though i own an xbox, gross. I wouldn't like that. I don’t yet. Maybe if something from all those purchases I can’t live without. For now, Game Pass isn’t enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brrrrrradislava Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 For me the biggest question is : did they get the Sleeping dogs ip? This game deserves a sequel but it will never happen under Square Enix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Brrrrrradislava said: For me the biggest question is : did they get the Sleeping dogs ip? This game deserves a sequel but it will never happen under Square Enix. Doubt it. Published by Square Enix, developed by Square Enix Europe, and United Front Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkBlade9 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 That's great news! SE always mishandled their western studios and they deserved way better than this. I really hope we will get a new Deus Ex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDGES Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) huge loss for Sony, the Tomb Raider IP alone is worth more than $300 million and the potential business Sony could've generated from owning that IP goes beyond games, Movies, TV Shows, etc. some people may look at the last TR game and say, hey, it didn't make money, so that's why they sold everything for so cheap, but that's a narrow perspective, the Spiderman games weren't making money, ex Amazing Spidermman 2 ps4, before Spiderman 2018 on PS4, God Of War Ascension didn't make money, what happened when GOW 2018 came out? made more money than the entire franchise did in the past combined to that point the amount of potential value Embrace bought for $300 is over 1 billion, and all of that, is, Sony's loss, because Sony don't have dozens of billions to buy publishers/devs/IPs like Microsoft has, so they need good stuff for cheap, and it doesn't get more good for cheap than Tomb Raider IP, 3 AAA studios and other 50+ IPs for $300 million Edited May 2, 2022 by The Investigator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephrese Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) Honestly - as strange as it is that they didn't - I'm glad that Sony didn't pounce on this deal, regardless of how worthwhile it might've been for them, the IPs themselves, etc. Leave some scraps for the rest of the playground to fight and play tug of war over. lol Absolutely sick and tired of both them and Microsoft buying out these huge publishers, and then forcing - sometimes decades old - IPs into exclusivity/holding them for ransom. Exclusivity in of itself I have little problem with, but this recent arms race of massive acquisitions and people rabidly supporting it is mind-numbing and depressing. Edited May 2, 2022 by Zephrese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, The Investigator said: huge loss for Sony, the Tomb Raider IP alone is worth more than $300 million and the potential business Sony could've generated from owning that IP goes beyond games, Movies, TV Shows, etc. some people may look at the last TR game and say, hey, it didn't make money. Most TR lifetime sales came from reboot Trilogy https://www.ign.com/articles/tomb-raider-sales-1996 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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