mike_87 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 One reason why this version of Sonic 3 and Knuckles will suck is the music licencing issues, theyve replaced some of the best level tunes with crap sounding stuff instead. Otherwise im down for some sonic retro fun ive grew up with him since i was 5 so yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocasy Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Looks like a solid list. It’ll be fun to add this to my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EcoShifter Posted June 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) ... It's nice for there to finally be a classic Sonic game with a platinum trophy, but this list could have been much better. Starting with the trophy portraits, they all repetitively use the same exact image, just with different coloring to match with the trophy tier. Just like Dead Nation, God Eater Resurrection, and Indivisible, to name some. This is the only Sonic game to ever do this. The platinum title is also underwhelming. (I do like the platinum one, but it loses some appeal for being the base for the others to copy with just different coloring) (DN- , GER- , Id- ) - The difficulty required outside the Mission Mode trophies—which lets you choose your own missions and doesn't demand completion of them all (unlike every other Sonic game)—is a joke: "Fly as Tails", "Glide as Knuckles", "play mirror mode", "try boss rush", "watch opening cutscenes", several dedicated to "unlocking museum content with the [easily obtainable] coins", etc. It's disappointing literally none of the difficult achievements from PS3 and mobile devices are here. Would have been nice to have at least some of them/these implemented: StH (PS3)- Fast Green, Fast Marble, Fast Win, Perfect Win StH2 (PS3)- Fast Emerald, Fast Chemical, Extended Super, Conquering Time SCD (PS3)- Paradise Found, Take the High Road, Statue Saviour, Heavy Metal, Treasure Hunter, Just in Time! Even if Mission Mode provides a good challenge on its own, concentrating all the challenge strictly within that mode limits the creative difficulty range that could be applied outside it. And those participation trophies for simply pressing a single button are pitiful. Boss Rush mode should at least require completion (which is still the bare minimum); Mirror Mode I can settle with beating an act/zone/level in it, rather than only 'playing it'; and if avoiding multiple playthroughs with other characters is the idea, then flying as Tails and gliding as Knuckles trophies should at least be hangtime based. (All of those are fair even for casuals.) The additional fact that there is no standalone speed-run trophy at all, especially for clearing Green Hill Zone within a certain time, is so bizarre. Alongside trophies from prior individual releases and changes to Sonic Origin trophy requirements I've already mentioned, some new additions I'd have like to see are completing all "'zones' of a level in a different time period" (CD), "completing a zone/level without any rings" (homage to the original game design too), "defeating all bosses in the game without dying" (specifically in one-run; these are Sonic games, so there's no need to make the already simple boss fights's trophy exploitable with level select), and "S rank every mission" (inline with literally every single Sonic game besides Unleashed, which compensated with completion of the notoriously demanding hotdog stand missions). I've seen a lot of people question the lack of a "collect all chaos emeralds" trophy, but the Super Sonic trophy requires collecting them all, so it lives on through that trophy. The Time Stones on the other hand has no trophy associated with it, making them a completely skippable feature during any CD playthrough. So in comparison, it's collecting all the Time Stones that should have a trophy. It didn't use to always be this way, but I like my Sonic list to be challenging or hard or at least consistent with the standard set with prior titles. A literal few missions requiring some effort to S rank is insufficient and won't give me my fix. Edited June 22, 2022 by EcoShifter added portraits 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, mike_87 said: One reason why this version of Sonic 3 and Knuckles will suck is the music licencing issues, theyve replaced some of the best level tunes with crap sounding stuff instead. Otherwise im down for some sonic retro fun ive grew up with him since i was 5 so yeah Damn. I hope they didn’t take out all the original tunes. Edited June 23, 2022 by AJ_Radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgm4789 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, AJ_Radio said: Damn. I hope they didn’t take out all the original tunes. From what i understand they are replacing carnival night, ice cap, and launch base with remixes of the tracks from a recently leaked prototype(which were the tracks used in the sonic and knuckes collection pc port). The rest of the soundtrack should remain intact as only sonic 3s second half had Michael Jackson involvement(everything after marble garden) so the first 3 sonic 3 zones and the knuckes half should remain intact. It isn't quite as severe as sonic cds us vs jp replacement(except that didn't have as many copyright red tape) but i wont lie losing ice caps music kind of sucks(i do like carnival nights prototype over final though). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 38 minutes ago, AJ_Radio said: Damn. I hope they didn’t take out all the original tunes. Almost all of it is still in there. Just not Launch Base, Ice Cap, and Carnival Night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, jgm4789 said: From what i understand they are replacing carnival night, ice cap, and launch base with remixes of the tracks from a recently leaked prototype(which were the tracks used in the sonic and knuckes collection pc port). The rest of the soundtrack should remain intact as only sonic 3s second half had Michael Jackson involvement(everything after marble garden) so the first 3 sonic 3 zones and the knuckes half should remain intact. It isn't quite as severe as sonic cds us vs jp replacement(except that didn't have as many copyright red tape) but i wont lie losing ice caps music kind of sucks(i do like carnival nights prototype over final though). 1 minute ago, MidnightDragon said: Almost all of it is still in there. Just not Launch Base, Ice Cap, and Carnival Night. Those are some of my favorite tunes. *sad face* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, AJ_Radio said: Those are some of my favorite tunes. *sad face* I'm gonna listen to them on YouTube when I'm in those levels. It's not perfect, but it'll work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Kite Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 This list just screams "we don't care" It almost insulting. "try boss rush" "glide with knuckles" It's like the list was made for a 5 year old playing their first game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, AIDA_Tri-Edge said: This list just screams "we don't care" It almost insulting. "try boss rush" "glide with knuckles" It's like the list was made for a 5 year old playing their first game. Pretty much. At least we can finally play Sonic 3 & Knuckles with trophy support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Appleby Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 One weird thing I've noticed so far is that some trophies seem to pop at the end of a level instead of when they would unlock normally. Mostly happening with the enemy related trophies as well as the Ring collecting ones. So don't be alarmed when you kill 10 Moto Bugs and the trophy doesn't pop! Also the game froze on me when I went to check the leaderboards. I've been mostly just listening to the songs in the Museum for the last hour, I'm glad that they included both the NA and the (far superior) JP versions for Sonic CD. I have the PC port of Sonic 3, so I've heard the new songs for Carnival Night, Ice Cap, and Launch Base zone before. But I prefer the originals more. Wish they didn't have the licensing issues so that they could have all the songs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OushiRX Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) Most of the trophy can be unlock by using debug mode, even the star coins can be farm to max amount. For anyone who is first time play this game strongly recommend do not use it. It gonna ruin your gaming experience. Edited June 23, 2022 by OushiRX add information 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance_87 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 9 hours ago, AIDA_Tri-Edge said: This list just screams "we don't care" It almost insulting. "try boss rush" "glide with knuckles" It's like the list was made for a 5 year old playing their first game. Well my very first trophy was for simply doing a roll in After Burner Climax on PS3 lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcoShifter Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 On the topic of music, it's not just the three stages with changed music. Competition menu, Super Sonic, and S3&K Credits music has also been changed. Worth pointing out also that some music in the museum is mislabeled. Additionally, Blue Sphere mode's music doesn't feature the sped-up feature for some reason. 7 minutes ago, OushiRX said: Most of the trophy can be unlock by using debug mode. For anyone who is first time play this game strongly recommend do not use it. It gonna ruin your gaming experience. I was really hoping this wouldn't be the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charxsetsuna Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) Anyone else having the issue where the trophy for 50 enemies defeated just won't pop. It stopped tracking at 49/50 and won't go further? ps5 version. Update- it popped after doing the 1 mission completed trophy. Edited June 23, 2022 by charxsetsuna Update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlighthed211 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 8 hours ago, OushiRX said: Most of the trophy can be unlock by using debug mode, even the star coins can be farm to max amount. For anyone who is first time play this game strongly recommend do not use it. It gonna ruin your gaming experience. You---really don't need to go to debug mode and unlock these trophies. You can get most of them by just playing the game. Although I admit, debug mode would have helped me unlock the Motobugs and Rhinos trophies way faster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake2410 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) My wife for one is glad it's an easy list. Sonic games are one of her all time favorites but she wouldn't put in the time and practice for hard trophy lists like the Crash Bandicoot games. From the video I just watched it looks like S ranks are quite easy too. Edited June 23, 2022 by Snake2410 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlighthed211 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, charxsetsuna said: Anyone else having the issue where the trophy for 50 enemies defeated just won't pop. It stopped tracking at 49/50 and won't go further? ps5 version. You must complete the act for the counter to save. So for example, you defeat 5 enemies THEN finish the act for your counter to save. Don't QUIT or restart. Edited June 23, 2022 by Starlighthed211 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charxsetsuna Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Starlighthed211 said: You must complete the act for the counter to save. So for example, you defeat 5 enemies THEN finish the act for your counter to save. Don't QUIT or restart. So thats why it only counted after I completed a mission, makes sense thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlighthed211 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, charxsetsuna said: So thats why it only counted after I completed a mission, makes sense thanks. Yeah I learnt the hard way with the Stingers trophy. I was thinking "WTF? I have defeated 10 by now, is this bugged??" after restarting over and over. Then I just decided to finish an act and boom it popped. :/ 19 minutes ago, Snake2410 said: My wife for one is glad it's an easy list. Sonic games are one of her all time favorites but she wouldn't put in the time and practice for hard trophy lists like the Crash Bandicoot games. From the video I just watched it looks like S ranks are quite easy too. I personally, glad this is an easy list too. I'm a huge Sonic fan, but I grew up loving Sonic Adventure and its year 2000 games. I did play the classic Sonic games many times before though, because I wanted experience the history of the franchise prior to Adventure. However it's just not my cup of tea these classics. I did enjoy Sonic CD though. Also most of the S ranks stuff is easy yes. But some will do your nutting. Edited June 23, 2022 by Starlighthed211 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEMON Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Can confirm that this is a very easy list. Anniversary mode has unlimited lives/retries, you can even have the option to retry a special stage for 1 coin (I have about 555 coins after clearing 40 missions at S rank + buying the stuff from the collection for those trophies) so getting the Super Sonic trophy is even going to be easy. And I didn't find much difficulty in S rank missions at all, some I just got it automatically by completion, I would probably say the hardest one was getting 70 rings with Super Sonic, but even then that only really took like several minutes of trying. There are some challenging ones provided by the DLC but even those seem like they will be easy given some practice to get S rank in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottercito_ Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) Do you know what would have been good? To combine all trophy lists from Sonic 1/2 CD from the PS3 versions into this game with some new trophies related to Sonic 3 and bum the platinum. That would have been nice since the games kn PS3 required you to do speedruns and without dying. Dissapointing to have this list. Combining all three trophy lists + platinum and some extra trophies related to the new features would have been cool. Edited June 24, 2022 by Pottercito_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFlame Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, Pottercito_ said: Do you know what would have been good? To combine all trophy lists from Sonic 1/2 CD from the PS3 versions into this game with some new trophies related to Sonic 3 and bum the platinum. That would have been nice since the games kn PS3 required you to do speedruns and without dying. Dissapointing to have this list. Combining all three trophy lists + platinum and some extra trophies related to the new features would have been cool. I had thought this too. Take the achievements from the live releases of 3 and knuckles and bam a more engaging trophy list I suppose? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groudon199 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 The Mission Master trophies don't require S-ranking 10 different missions. You can S the same mission 10 times and it'll count. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostDragoon28 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Does anyone know if the trophies for beating the games on classic or anniversary’s mode also pop if you beat the game on story mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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