Sikutai Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) I don't like rainy days and the guy next door is stupid too. I want a filter so I don't have to see the rain and the guy anymore. Blocking out the things you don't like in life would make things easier, but that's just not life. Being an adult means being able to deal with such things. Edited August 5, 2022 by Sikutai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSuperT Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 13 hours ago, woggly4 said: First part: Totally agree. I often see thumbnails, trophy or header images of new games that catch my curiosity just to find out it's just another ez-pez game. And I would really like to hide them from the "new games" list to don't miss out on actual good (indie) games. Second part: Why? What would be the point of that? I, personally, don't hide any game because I picture my trophy log as a real log of all my trophies. I want to see it unfiltered and I would like to keep it that way for the public. Just because someone doesn't like a certain game (doesn't matter if it's easy, a stack or AAA) they shouldn't be able to change my profile, even if it's only for them. You can always think to yourself "what is wrong with you, how can you play such game" but you do you, if you like playing it or just want to mindlessly increase a virtual counter, do it, and show it to the public. I can judge or admire you, doesn't matter. But if the player decides to show a trophy or game in their list it should be seen by everyone. If you don't like it, leave their profile. There's a pretty good reason IMO as I've been in this situation quite a few time. A player join my session about a trophy that will be quite hard, where you need skill and communication. I'm checking his profile real quick : 200+ platinum "Okay, he seems like a great player" Then, in game, I discover he's not. Just, absolutely not. Then, I discover later that those 200+ platinum were, in fact, 99% of those shitty games. Hence, that's why I think that hiding those plats and reflect it on the profile total plats/PSN number is a really, really great idea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woggly4 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, DarkSuperT said: A player join my session about a trophy that will be quite hard, where you need skill and communication. I'm checking his profile real quick : 200+ platinum "Okay, he seems like a great player" Then, in game, I discover he's not. Just, absolutely not. Then, I discover later that those 200+ platinum were, in fact, 99% of those shitty games. Hence, that's why I think that hiding those plats and reflect it on the profile total plats/PSN number is a really, really great idea. Okay but when you're looking at their profile to check the platinum count you could also check their games. If the player only plays racing games and you're looking for boosting a shooter it might be the same situation, even if that player only plays AAA games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HusKy Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 I hear you people, but I'm not sure this can be done. For example, from the current front page, there are 5 shovelware "games" that don't have developer/publisher info available right now: 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot Posted August 5, 2022 Author Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, HusKy said: I hear you people, but I'm not sure this can be done. For example, from the current front page, there are 5 shovelware "games" that don't have developer/publisher info available right now: Cheers for weighing in, and once again I love your work, it's fantastic! I'm hoping that over time the games get metadata added, but it'll just take some time - I think it's a community team that sorts out metadata, so I guess they need a little time to do it. Certainly this race between getting metadata added and getting bumped off the new trophy lists page makes this aspect of it a little impractical, but I think the rest of the feature request doesn't rely on metadata being added quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, HusKy said: I hear you people, but I'm not sure this can be done. For example, from the current front page, there are 5 shovelware "games" that don't have developer/publisher info available right now: Probably because they were just added to PSNP. I wonder how long it takes for it to be updated, and whether it’s manually done or automatic. Not sure where PSNP sources its entries, but it’s weird that it can’t grab metadata alongside the initial game entry. At the very least, a filter can grab some shovelware entries, but not all during the point that it matters, when it’s in the New Trophy List panel. Probably by the time those entries are properly updated and filtered, they’ve already been pushed out by newer games, thus not posing as an issue anymore anyways. What an ordeal lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusKy Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Elliot said: Cheers for weighing in, and once again I love your work, it's fantastic! I'm hoping that over time the games get metadata added, but it'll just take some time - I think it's a community team that sorts out metadata, so I guess they need a little time to do it. Certainly this race between getting metadata added and getting bumped off the new trophy lists page makes this aspect of it a little impractical, but I think the rest of the feature request doesn't rely on metadata being added quickly. This data is loaded automatically from IGDB, but for example "The Giraffe G" is currently not even associated with Webnetic: https://www.igdb.com/games/the-giraffe-g @SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki Exactly, so I'm not sure this can be solved very easily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, HusKy said: @SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki Exactly, so I'm not sure this can be solved very easily. I believe in you king, our bounties still stand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSuperT Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, HusKy said: This data is loaded automatically from IGDB, but for example "The Giraffe G" is currently not even associated with Webnetic: https://www.igdb.com/games/the-giraffe-g @SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki Exactly, so I'm not sure this can be solved very easily. Maybe games without metadata can be trigger as a shovelware ? I don't know, is it common for real games to be on the site without metadata ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, DarkSuperT said: Maybe games without metadata can be trigger as a shovelware ? Now I think this sets up a dangerous precedent because who really decides what’s shovelware and what’s not? I think it should be toggle-able for the user clientside. Maybe we can also have a “hide this game” tickbox context menu alongside a filter? @HusKy If you were to hide a game from the “New Trophy Lists” panel, does the last previous game that was just ejected end up back in the panel? Or does hiding a game just mean the panel now has one less total game on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ahmedelebiary Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 Going from Ratalaikas to Breakthrough arcade, The Animal X, and The Jumping Food /Turbo shows you how pathetic trophy hunting is nowadays.. really miss the PS3 days when a gold trophy was a platinum in itself. Now it's just getting ridiculous seeing people with more gold than bronze/ silver (or combined lol). 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post willmill97 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 10 hours ago, steel6burgh said: companies making this spam shovel ware crap are exploiting a hobby that people found fun and turning it into garbage. There is no excuse for or defending it. Couldn't explain it better myself. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kcrack_Km Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Sikutai said: Blocking out the things you don't like in life would make things easier, but that's just not life. Being an adult means being able to deal with such things. So do you read the hundreds of spam emails that get filtered to your junk box, or are you happy for those to get filtered out? 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana_Sausage47 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I would love an option to hide publishers/developers to avoid having to see this trash every time I visit the site. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulqarmessi Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 GOD help me, The Jumping Noodles just landed ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post You Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, zulqarmessi said: GOD help me, The Jumping Noodles just landed ? Yep and as per this thread, we've come full circle... again... Where the top 10 latest "games" are just spam games, and now we have no idea what actual new games just got released, without having to pull up the complete new games list and scroll down. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letenko Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I'll hold my tongue regarding the controvery and bickering, as much as I'd love to reply, absolutely nothing would be gained from it. Regarding the suggestion, I am very biased against these "games" so I'm all for it. I don't think I'd use it myself, as I'd love to see profiles full of these "games" for my own reason, but just having the ability to filter then would be a great thing, mainly for the front page as that thing gets flooded by garbage after garbage that is just ripe for "trophy hunting" by some folks. I'm afraid that we'll be at another impass here and the best we can hope is for this to become a PSNP+ feature. As to what @HusKy said, I am not entirely sure if the game information is fully carried from IGDB by the site or if it requires a manual entry from some of the Game Informaiton Team members. I have spoken to a few of them and if recall they have to at least check each entry to make sure what is being shown is accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrBloodmoney Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, enaysoft said: Yep and as per this thread, we've come full circle... again... Where the top 10 latest "games" are just spam games, and now we have no idea what actual new games just got released, without having to pull up the complete new games list and scroll down. I agree that the current frequency and saturation of these "games" has totally broken the "New Games" section of this site... ...but I have to ask: are people really using that part of this site as their way of finding out about new games? This problem is really only an issue on this site - where every region is served up all in one place, so these multi-region games completely outnumber regular releases. In terms of the new releases page on the actual PSN store, the issue is less prominent, as at least there only one or two versions of each of these games is served up - and obviously in the various "spotlight" sections they do, or their sales and deals section etc, those games never feature. I'm not having a go, or being obtuse here, but I think this never really bugged me, because there are like 15 different avenues for finding out what games are coming out and what is worth playing that I would go to (podcasts / news / youtube / PSN Store... hell, word of mouth and the forums here...) before it would even occur to me to try to use PSNPs "New Games" section as an avenue for discovery... ...even if all this stuff was filtered out Edited August 5, 2022 by DrBloodmoney 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amurnin100 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) I don’t agree with hiding small game shovelling trophies (this can affect new smaller developers publishing their first game etx) but a profile “score” based on rarity would solve 2 arguments, content on the profile so you can skip profiles filled with quick plats and a rarity leaderboard and/or score on the profile. Expect “Sly’s website” response though from an unnamed mod though regarding this… Edited August 5, 2022 by amurnin100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said: are people really using that part of this site as their way of finding out about new games? It’s more that, it allows people to know when a specific game they’re waiting for has hit Sony’s servers. For example, I’m waiting for Cult of the Lamb’s trophies to show up. That part of the site would normally let me know when that info is finally up, if it wasn’t flooded with garbage shovelware. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HusKy Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said: are people really using that part of this site as their way of finding out about new games? No, I think most people use it to discover new trophy lists being published. At least they used to. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki said: It’s more that, it allows people to know when a specific game they’re waiting for has hit Sony’s servers. For example, I’m waiting for Cult of the Lamb’s trophies to show up. That part of the site would normally let me know when that info is finally up, if it wasn’t flooded with garbage shovelware. Just now, HusKy said: No, I think most people use it to discover new trophy lists being published. At least they used to. Ah - fair play - I had forgotten that sometimes lists don't go up at the same time as the games themselves. Fair points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post willmill97 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 The abolition and filtering of games such as The Jumping Fuckshit, and Zippy the Wankshit would be a monumental day in the preservation of actual gaming. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth4424 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 From time to time i read ''Sony doesn't care about trophies, trophy hunters are a tiny % of playstation community etc'' I wonder why Sony allows these jumping trash on psn. They cost 1.49-2.99 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charxsetsuna Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 How would we define spam games? Those puzzle games look like decent puzzle games just with easy trophies. And not all Ratalaka games are spam games, stuff like long live the queen. Easy trophies but ive played that game on PC, its a genuinely fun game. If I got that plat easy or not I wouldn't want to filter it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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