Suggestion: Allow hiding of spam games

[CoolDust]

44 minutes ago, ScintillaWolf said:

 

I've been searching through this topic trying to find it anyone advocated this as being the cut off. I totally agree. 

 

These games shouldn't even be categorised as EZPZ for me, they're exploitable cash grabs in the same way slot / fruit machines pull in a gambler. The fact that they're all 98/99% suggests the only people playing these are people with such addictions. They need to be abolished.

 

But seen as I know getting rid of them indefinitely will be nigh on impossible, a filter would be perfect. Especially the idea of compressing the stacks to just show one, unless you go out of your way to click on it.

Amen, Sony need to curate what's suitable to be released on PSN. 

 

You have indie devs pouring their hearts/resources into the games they are creating that are being burried by these parasites.

 

They serve no purpose other than to feed on people's addictions, hiding them would be a nice feature in the meantime however I think the real solution is Sony putting a stop to it! 

 

This isn't from any kind of leaderboard angle because I couldn't careless about that side of trophy hunting but I just think these games are bad for the ecosystem and passionate/talented game devs.

[RedDevil757]

Won’t happen as the casuals will get upset that you can’t see their amazing plat amounts. Unfortunately they outnumber us true hunters.

 

personally I’d hide all the pay for platinum games, autopops and any that have used debug cheats.

[damage_6-9]

15 hours ago, SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki said:

I don't want to see someone's full experience. I want to see their interesting games.

 

 

Think this one could be an easy fix, maybe just need to add RARITY to the viewing options ie: LAST PLAYED, LAST TROPHY, PERCENTAGE, etc

[ChiefMichigan]

Seems like a good idea, but where do you draw the line? You said you don't mind most Rat or EastAsiaSoft games, but some people do still consider almost all of them EZPZ or trash. 

The mods of the site would have to come to a consensus of what to filter out as an option. Maybe 90% or higher average completion rates? Or at least 95% or higher?

[DoctorDrPepper]

I like it when the numbers go up, I play shit games on my lunch breaks. I also like playing legit games at night when I get home and on the weekends. There's room for both.

How about everything just stays the same?

[DeepEyes7]

28 minutes ago, ChiefMichigan said:

Seems like a good idea, but where do you draw the line? You said you don't mind most Rat or EastAsiaSoft games, but some people do still consider almost all of them EZPZ or trash. 

The mods of the site would have to come to a consensus of what to filter out as an option. Maybe 90% or higher average completion rates? Or at least 95% or higher?

 

Drawing the line is maybe one of the things that Sly doesn't want to mess with, 2 years ago everyone said that Ratalaika games were the perfect definition of ezpz games, but now people are even defending those games because we now have worse... And could the future be even worse and jumping games will be considered allowed?

 

Personally I think that PSNP already draw a lot of invisible limits because of cheating, things like allowing the Vita Trick and not whitelisting trophies of notorious games that could be unlocked by hackers in public matches like BO2 or GTAV, I know that this is needed if you want a kind of "legit" leaderboard and still the CFW users can cheat a lot circunventing the rules... They just don't want to mess with more things, that could be annoying for some users, but at least is not illegal...

[dieselmanchild]

23 hours ago, JimIsTheName said:

I honestly think a filter that filters out all platinums with a completion rate of +75% isn't that difficult. 
To be fair I would even consider paying $15 for premium instead of $12 just for this option.

While this would probably be a fairly simple fix as you said, the problem is that such a solution would raise other issues. I’m not entirely in favour of just blanket filtering every game beyond a certain completion percentage as this is not necessarily an accurate measurement of the quality of the game. It would certainly get rid of most of these shovelware turds that plague the site, but like DrBloodMoney and others pointed out above, it would undoubtedly filter out many legitimate, worthwhile games as well that just happen to be really easy games.

 

There is probably a threshold for which this blanket strategy would work, say above 85-90%, as it’s hard to imagine there are too many quality games with completion percentages beyond that range. Anything lower than that and you would need some sort of system for policing and appealing improperly filtered games so the good ones that fall through the cracks could be added back into the trophy pool.

 

It’s a complicated issue. But for the love of god, at the very least can we filter these games out of the newest releases? I’m tired of opening the site every day just to see numerous stacks of the latest Jumping Taco or animal alphabet game clogging up the home page. It’s an eye sore, and depressing to look at.

[SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki]

20 hours ago, PalaceOfLove706 said:

Filtering out publishers entirely seems excessive though. At the end of the day these people went through the approval process to release games and at the end of the day these are games whether or not you deem them spam. Trophy hunters are the only ones buying these games and the publishers have found a niche to make money. If trophy hunters didn’t want easy trophies we wouldn’t have easy trophies

It’s actually very easy to release games for the PS4/PS5, relative to what people think. How else do you think these publishers release 10+ new “games” a day? 
 

Besides, calling them “games” is very charitable. “Games” are usually scientifically defined as experiences with win/loss conditions. With these shovelware games, there is usually no functioning loss condition to speak of. Do you know what that makes it? It makes it a “toy”. These aren’t games, these are toys. 

 

And just because they are considered “games”, doesn’t give them any right to assault our eyes with their omnipresence. Ad companies spend tons of money getting their spots in website, you want me to disable my adblock because of that? No way!

Some of us even coughed up money for a better site experience.

 

PSNP+ has allowed us to customize the site beyond what was designed, are we not allowed to use that because of some arbitrary sentiments? 
 

8 hours ago, amurnin100 said:

This should be a topic in itself TBH….

Bashing the site owner is a quick way of getting this thread locked. Please avoid doing this, otherwise we lose all traction on this topic. 

[amurnin100]

14 minutes ago, SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki said:

It’s actually very easy to release games for the PS4/PS5, relative to what people think. How else do you think these publishers release 10+ new “games” a day? 
 

Besides, calling them “games” is very charitable. “Games” are usually scientifically defined as experiences with win/loss conditions. With these shovelware games, there is usually no functioning loss condition to speak of. Do you know what that makes it? It makes it a “toy”. These aren’t games, these are toys. 

 

And just because they are considered “games”, doesn’t give them any right to assault our eyes with their omnipresence. Ad companies spend tons of money getting their spots in website, you want me to disable my adblock because of that? No way!

Some of us even coughed up money for a better site experience.

 

PSNP+ has allowed us to customize the site beyond what was designed, are we not allowed to use that because of some arbitrary sentiments? 
 

Bashing the site owner is a quick way of getting this thread locked. Please avoid doing this, otherwise we lose all traction on this topic. 

Not bashing, all I’m saying is that it’s worthy of a discussion 

[BlindMango]

14 hours ago, HusKy said:

It's a start...

 

Woah! I've been wanting to see consolidated stacks like you've done it for a long, long time.

 

Here's the proposal image I sent Sly for filtering things out but I'll send it to you too so it can become a thing sooner rather than probably much later, have fun with it!  

 

The one on the left would be the default filtered new game list, and pushing the green "show all games" button shows the page on the right (unfiltered)

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by BlindMango

[SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki]

42 minutes ago, BlindMango said:

 

Woah! I've been wanting to see consolidated stacks like you've done it for a long, long time.

 

Here's the proposal image I sent Sly for filtering things out but I'll send it to you too so it can become a thing sooner rather than probably much later, have fun with it!  

 

The one on the left would be the default filtered new game list, and pushing the green "show all games" button shows the page on the right (unfiltered)

 

Would this only apply to the games list?

[dzstrpc]

I wish games where collapsable in games lists and profiles.

 

+Game Name

  -AS Stack

  -EU Stack

  -JP Stack

  -NA Stack

 

I also wish my Profile page had a second tab where I could move games I'll never play again to.

Like the Library on PS4 and PS5 where you can filter games between two tabs.

That would be a nice feature for us with a 1000+ games profile.

Plus. If you view your account and see only the stuff you're proud of, chances are you rather start that next game in a series you like rather than stacking EZPZs.

[BlindMango]

31 minutes ago, SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki said:

Would this only apply to the games list?

 

It would apply to the new games list and the homepage, I guess there could be a setting to hide them everywhere too if that were also built

[SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki]

1 minute ago, BlindMango said:

 

It would apply to the new games list and the homepage, I guess there could be a setting to hide them everywhere too if that were also built

Everywhere would be ideal, just to avoid discrepancies. Let me see if I can make some mock-ups in Photoshop. 

[SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki]

@HusKy @BlindMango Made some mock-ups. I think this is what a lot of us are asking for. Any way to include this into PSNP or PSNP+? I'll pay up the bounty if it's somewhat like this.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2022 by SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki
Found out how to post images

[SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki]

Expanding how it could work backend, the "View Block List" button could download a .txt file or .ini file where you can add or delete the items you have blocked. Or just repurpose a Game List just for blocking items?

[HusKy]

Hey everyone, hiding of stacks is now available in PSNP+. I'd say this small change already makes a pretty huge difference for those who like to follow new trophy lists being published.

 

 

3 hours ago, SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki said:

Or just repurpose a Game List just for blocking items?

 

Yes, I'm thinking about being able to set one game list as "blacklist" in the settings and any game in this special list would be hidden from different PSNP pages.

Edited August 7, 2022 by HusKy

[amurnin100]

34 minutes ago, HusKy said:

Hey everyone, hiding of stacks is now available in PSNP+. I'd say this small change already makes a pretty huge difference for those who like to follow new trophy lists being published.

 

 

 

Yes, I'm thinking about being able to set one game list as "blacklist" in the settings and any game in this special list would be hidden from different PSNP pages.

????

[SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki]

1 hour ago, HusKy said:

Yes, I'm thinking about being able to set one game list as "blacklist" in the settings and any game in this special list would be hidden from different PSNP pages.

Thank you for even thinking about this!

 

Tallying up bounties users in this thread have considered offering (if you still want to, I’m not gunna hassle you or force you at all):

@Elliot: €50

@SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki: $50

@mackenzie129: €10

 

If anyone else wants to be a little charitable to Husky for his hard work, let me know and I’ll add your name too.

 

His BMAC page he linked in his PSNP+ thread: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/HusKyCode

 

Edited August 7, 2022 by SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki

[Deadly_Ha_Ha]

At least we have HusKy to help make the site better

[LegendExeter]

What a joke the entire list of new games is all shovelware, and 10 spots are occupied by 2 games.  Horrible

[You]

Been busy most of today and for fun I thought "Hmm I wonder what new "games" have been released by the Christian developer this Sunday".

So I came to check and ALREADY 8 stacks of SNAP CRAP already scrolling everything off the top. lol.

 

This pace of games coming out is escalating so quickly.

 

[WakeUpHP]

Credit to Husky, the code for collapsing the stacks works as intended; but now instead of 3 shovelware games taking up the whole page we simply have 10 different cut-and-paste games... This probably provides a slightly better chance for good games to appear there but it seems like a sticking plaster for a gangrenous wound.  I do understand though that collapsing the stacks was pretty easy to code, while hiding devs or games with 98% rarity is more difficult.

Edited August 7, 2022 by WakeUpHP

[ScintillaWolf]

3 hours ago, HusKy said:

Hey everyone, hiding of stacks is now available in PSNP+. I'd say this small change already makes a pretty huge difference for those who like to follow new trophy lists being published.

 

 

 

Yes, I'm thinking about being able to set one game list as "blacklist" in the settings and any game in this special list would be hidden from different PSNP pages.

 

I hope you know that you're a god damn hero to a lot of people here. Thank you!

[JediKnight_327]

I guess the fastest workaround would be to repurpose the script of an adblocker to block unwanted games appearing ?

But with any solution someone would need to be in charge of a 'default list' and if other users dont like it, they would have to create their own.