What are everyone's thoughts on the Playstation PC Ports

[Sendai-Horatio]

There seems to be a few thinking that this is a sign of surrender and sony is moving everything to Steam because they're looking to let go of the Playstation 5 since many view it or wish to see it as a failure because sony to them has grown arrogant. The system supposedly has no place to exist anymore and is redundant.

 

But personally I think they're just expanding on what they already have since it's looking like they're making their own launcher and even if the games get ported to Steam you will need to sign into PSN in order to play and buy things since they're also bringing many of these games to mobile as well.

 

Honestly none of this is set down in a single path. If the PC ports were eating into console sales they would probably cancel them because they make more on PSN than they do on Valve's storefront. And I don't see anyone wanting to wind down PSN.

Edited October 5, 2022 by Sendai-Horatio

[G-Achievements]

Yes Sony will abandon their biggest money maker....

[JPtheNeurotic]

I think its good more people can play video games.

[MidnightDragon]

Sony just wants to expand their reach and they ultimately want to make money and the console division still makes them the most money, so…also not a bad thing more can play? 

[hailurez]

As I've gotten older, I dreaded exclusives. Mostly because everyone should have a chance to play a game on their preferred platform. I understand Sony is also doing it for more reach for sales, but I'm happy that people are now able to experience games like Spider-Man, Horizon, and God of War (2018). As for a launcher, eh, that I'm not too keen on. Uplay and Origin are both... Yeah. PC players shouldn't have to jump through a hoop to play a PS game if they've already bought it on Steam.

[Xillynoc]

I support more people being able to experience incredible games like God of War...would be great if this were ever extended to older titles like Sly and inFAMOUS.

[FallenKingdom]

Sony has been reluctant and apprehensive about cross-play, starting with the PS4 generation. I just see this as an inevitable step forward as Sony has become more and more welcoming to cross-play and now the PC. 

[Ninjise]

I don't particulalrly care, however more people can enjoy these great games and there's also a bigger chance of sequels if they sell well on both platforms.

 

Also it might help reduce the fanboys war with more cross games, it's 2022 and it seems to be worst than ever before.

[AJ_-_808]

On 10/4/2022 at 8:30 PM, Sendai-Horatio said:

There seems to be a few thinking that this is a sign of surrender and sony is moving everything to Steam because they're looking to let go of the Playstation 5 since many view it or wish to see it as a failure because sony to them has grown arrogant. The system supposedly has no place to exist anymore and is redundant.

 

That's literally the first time I've heard of that anywhere.  PS5 isn't going anywhere. They're just picking up some more sales on games that are years old in a new market.

 

 

[CelestialRequiem]

It isn't a bad thing for consumers, but it shows how badly costs have ballooned for gamedev. 

[You]

Nude mods, isn't that the only reason to play on PC?

[Eraezr]

No Linux/Ubuntu support - ? ? ?

[Sunny]

I would love to see games released on all consoles, people would get to experience more games on their favourite system, heck I'd love to platinum Zelda and Mario.

[TheBlaskar]

They legitimately can't make them fast enough. redundancy is so far out of the question. PC Ports are just good for business. Let them have spiderman god of war horizon etc like 3-4 years after launch. they're great games. kinda makes people want to have played them sooner

[Helyx]

On 10/5/2022 at 2:40 AM, JPtheNeurotic said:

I think its good more people can play video games.

 

Can confirm. People with PCs enjoy games.

[EDGES]

big mistake, the console gamer built up PlayStation, and the console gamers needs are being impacted by the company's efforts to support another platform that didn't and doesn't support them, fortunately for Sony, the PS5 is the default casual gamer 3rd party games platform, but how long will that last with more and more 3rd party devs being bought? what happens when all Sony games can be bought on PC and all ex 3rd party devs bought by MS and others will cut PS support? whatever will happen, it will not be a good thing for the console gamer that built up the PS brand for 25 years

[AJ_-_808]

1 hour ago, The Investigator said:

big mistake, the console gamer built up PlayStation, and the console gamers needs are being impacted by the company's efforts to support another platform that didn't and doesn't support them,

 

They're porting games that are years old. Pretty much after they sell through the majority of a few game's console purchases, theyre opening it up to a new market for more sales.  No one's needs are being impacted.

 

You couldn't have blown this more out of proportion if you'd have strapped it to the back of a rocket.

[CooL_BoY_777]

interesting news from Sony, when will this happen ? 

 

 

 

                                                 

[JediKnight_327]

4 hours ago, CelestialRequiem said:

It isn't a bad thing for consumers, but it shows how badly costs have ballooned for gamedev. 

 

Like for like, inflation adjusted costs havent balooned, they've actually gone down due to advances in technology, and the standardisation and condensed range of technologies e.g. game engines, programming languages, motion capture. A single dev can do a lot more today in the same time than a single dev could do 10 or more years ago, and inflation-adjusted wages are also in favour of corporations. The biggest technological improvements like higher polygon counts, higher resolutions/frame-rates, or ray-tracing dont really have a cost of any significance attached to them.

 

The reason games may be more expensive to make is that they're doing optional stuff more often now that they didnt do before like bringing in professional actors, writers, music composers etc. and along with all of these costs, they end up paying more for licensing, legal expenses, marketing etc. The fact is that you can still make a successful game without most of those costs and it will cost you less than a technically equivalent game did 10 or more years ago, and this is why inflation-adjusted prices of video games are going down in the long-run, and why people have an issue with the £70 price tag.

[EDGES]

2 hours ago, AJ_-_808 said:

 

They're porting games that are years old. Pretty much after they sell through the majority of a few game's console purchases, theyre opening it up to a new market for more sales.  No one's needs are being impacted.

 

You couldn't have blown this more out of proportion if you'd have strapped it to the back of a rocket.

 

you're talking about what they've done so far, you're not talking about what they said they're going to do forward, which is not "years old games that have sold through", but 1 year only delay releases for singleplayer games and day one releases for online games, and you can bet that day one for singleplayer games is right behind, make no mistake, day one multiplatform release for all their games is Sony's goal, and there's absolutely nothing positive about that for the console only gamer

 

I don't care for off console gamers, I'm not a socialist/communist activist, I'm a capitalist, and a home console mainly gamer, and in capitalism we have something called "Product Differentiation" for competition, and Sony is looking to have none of that for their home console, only momentum from past success

Edited October 9, 2022 by The Investigator

[AJ_-_808]

7 hours ago, The Investigator said:

 

you're talking about what they've done so far, you're not talking about what they said they're going to do forward, which is not "years old games that have sold through", but 1 year only delay releases for singleplayer games and day one releases for online games, and you can bet that day one for singleplayer games is right behind, make no mistake, day one multiplatform release for all their games is Sony's goal, and there's absolutely nothing positive about that for the console only gamer

 

I don't care for off console gamers, I'm not a socialist/communist activist, I'm a capitalist, and a home console mainly gamer, and in capitalism we have something called "Product Differentiation" for competition, and Sony is looking to have none of that for their home console, only momentum from past success

 

Then, as a capitalist, you should be applauding them for finally opening up to a new market for the benefit of the company. New market = new revenue = company stays alive.

 

Day 1 ps/pc online games only expands the user base for people playing on solely console. If you play pc and console already, then nothing changes for you.

 

If day 1 single player pc/ps releases happens some day in the future, so what?  This still doesn't affect you as a console only player. People playing pc/console already have their preferences. This only expands their choices.

 

You're reading too much into the "Sony will phase out consoles and start developing for pc only 100 years from now" 

 

 

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For the record, I left pc gaming like 20 years so and have been ps console ever since.

Edited October 9, 2022 by AJ_-_808

[matkingdomhearts]

If they ever decide to go day-1 on PC too, then they will have to place the same price on both the versions (and no day1 keys at 30%-off for PC only).

If not (and they favor PC with lower prices due to being afraid piracy, or to follow the general PC market or whatever) then, as a console gamer, I would feel really fooled yet again by Sony.

And, before anyone says "how can you be so sure that they pull something like that?", I don't have a crystal ball so I can't be sure, but they already had the audacity of making Sackboy Big Adventure cheaper on Steam (while it was still fully priced on PSStore) when it was launched on PC, soooo that is not such an impossible turn of events.

Edited October 9, 2022 by matkingdomhearts

[EDGES]

8 hours ago, AJ_-_808 said:

Then, as a capitalist, you should be applauding them for finally opening up to a new market for the benefit of the company. New market = new revenue = company stays alive.

 

yeah, that's why Apple fights for their life to keep their ecosystem closed, opening up to a new market is a sign of defeat, not victory, they already had business in the PC market, they shut it down years ago, why? because they didn't need it, their main business is console, nothing changed now, it was a waste then, it is a waste now

 

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Day 1 ps/pc online games only expands the user base for people playing on solely console. If you play pc and console already, then nothing changes for you.

 

wrong, PC gamers mostly play online games, and now Sony is talking about 50% of their games being online to aim for that market, before, they would 100% aim for my market, but now I get less because they split their resources to target other markets that never did anything positive for them 

 

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If day 1 single player pc/ps releases happens some day in the future, so what?  This still doesn't affect you as a console only player. People playing pc/console already have their preferences. This only expands their choices.

 

wrong, it affects me, because I play on the console, if the userbase shifts from console to PC, then they won't make new consoles, what am I going to do with my investment in the console space then? I won't get new platform refreshes, I will have to start from 0 on another platform, it is a complete loss for me

 

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You're reading too much into the "Sony will phase out consoles and start developing for pc only 100 years from now" 

 

yeah, like people were reading too much into MS doing it, and look at them now, xbox is dead, MS is all about the multiplatform fodder gaming service gamepass now, xbox had zero games at launch and had zero games this whole year, absolute unacceptable, and that is the future of PlayStation console gaming

Edited October 10, 2022 by The Investigator

[AJ_-_808]

1 hour ago, The Investigator said:

 

yeah, that's why Apple fights for their life to keep their ecosystem closed, opening up to a new market is a sign of defeat, not victory, they already had business in the PC market, they shut it down years ago, why? because they didn't need it, their main business is console, nothing changed now, it was a waste then, it is a waste now

 

 

wrong, PC gamers mostly play online games, and now Sony is talking about 50% of their games being online to aim for that market, before, they would 100% aim for my market, but now I get less because they split their resources to target other markets that never did anything positive for them 

 

 

wrong, it affects me, because I play on the console, if the userbase shifts from console to PC, then they won't make new consoles, what am I going to do with my investment in the console space then? I won't get new platform refreshes, I will have to start from 0 on another platform, it is a complete loss for me

 

 

yeah, like people were reading too much into MS doing it, and look at them now, xbox is dead, MS is all about the multiplatform fodder gaming service gamepass now, xbox had zero games at launch and had zero games this whole year, absolute unacceptable, and that is the future of PlayStation console gaming

 

Sony putting some of their games on a new market isn't a sign of defeat... it's just opening up to new business. Plain and simple.  If it doesn't pan out, oh well.

 

I don't think they ever %100 aimed for the singleplayer market, as evidenced by a large number of single player games having crappy tacked on multiplayer.  Games as a service is the new trend, that's all.  Some will succeed, some will fail. 

 

Your endgame scenario in which Sony goes the Sega route is, while possible (anything is possible), extremely unlikely.  No one wants to see that happen and I simply think you're overreacting a bit here, but we're not likely to convince each other otherwise.

 

Xbox has been junk for a while. It's not dead because it shifted focus to pc, it's dead because it failed to make itself worthwhile (lack of exclusives), among other issues.  And I think xbox being "dead" is probably debatable.

 

 

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Before you point out Sony losing g its exclusives to pc is the same as xbox not having much exclusives, hence Sony killing itself -

 

Obviously, if Sony put everything on pc, it would be shooting itself in the foot.  They aren't doing that, and, hopefully, they know better than to offload everything they have.  You are, at this moment, building a scenario that hasn't happened. It's a big what-ifism

 

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by AJ_-_808

[ChiefMichigan]

There are very few, if any, downsides. The more people that have access to buy Sony's software, the better.