aaroncharles Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) How is this game a 7/10 difficulty with over 43% of people obtaining the platinum? Is it really that difficult? Edited November 1, 2022 by aaroncharles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princefan2407 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Nooo, it's still demanding, the same problem touches each game from FromSoftware, because... Souls fans. Who are excruciatingly painful, when it comes to arguing with them or giving hints about other games, but are really pitting some time and skill in order to max out the potential of these games. + Most people on psnprofiles are trophy hunters, those games stand proud in sb's collection, add 2+2... In general, there are some serious curiosities, when it comes to comparison between trophy rarity here and on PSN. I am gradually giving up about looking info trophies' rarity anymore, because the high percentage of trophies got me away once or twice from giving a chance to a real jam or some VN. Not anymore and still, I've got some really important plats. Just don't think about it. Edited November 21, 2022 by princefan2407 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vega Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 It is if your not familiar with dark souls and you play by the rules and offline With player summoning and cheese weapons this game become easilly a 4/10 IMO Also you can ask for boosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAK-KRIEG Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) A lot of casuals get carried to the plat I would assume? It is rather challenging on your first playthrough if you don't get everything served on a silver platter. Edited November 1, 2022 by JAK-KRIEG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbaltipie Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I struggled with one boss in particular, i wont spoil it here but i think its pretty common knowledge who that is. I refused to summon anyone on my first run, but subsequent runs i summoned others and it was so much easier. I actually did the PS4 version after the PS5 version and was much quicker with a different build. (magic was very OP) I think with these souls games their difficulty has to be taken with a pinch of salt. A large % of those that play these types of games are the hardcore souls fans and i think that tips the rareity of the plat. Having said that becuase of the open world approach (knowing you can run away from almost any fight) and how well the game was received by critics, i think it attracted some outside of that souls fan base. If you havent played these games, i think this is a quite a good intro to the style of games and would recommend playing it. You can also save scum the endings to save a couple of play throughs - which i did on my second plat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SairenOne Posted November 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2022 46 minutes ago, Vega said: It is if your not familiar with dark souls and you play by the rules and offline With player summoning and cheese weapons this game become easilly a 4/10 IMO Also you can ask for boosting Which "rules"? ? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrBloodmoney Posted November 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) It's still a tough-ish game, but there are a good few significant reasons why the platinum rate is as high as it is. Firstly, while it is still no walk in the park, it is much less tough than most previous Souls games, as there is significant freedom to explore / over-level / avoid some sections, so it avoids the more common souls "block" of simply being stuck at one section, and forced to keep trying until you can beat one or two specific areas / bosses. Secondly, it's a wildly popular game (with good reason!) and so while a lot of mechanics are obtuse and difficult to parse solo, there is ample help available online, with every mechanic explained, and every boss dissected to establish optimum builds / strategies. Thirdly, while the game can be complicated, the actual trophy list isn't. Basically, anyone who enjoys the game enough to power through to complete it, is virtually guaranteed to have a very high completion rate, and will be within spitting distance of the platinum. There aren't many missable things, and loading to do multiple endings is easy enough - plus, even without it, once you know what to do and where to go, a NG+ run is in the 5-10 hour range for a regular player, not the hundreds they might put in in the first playthrough. Fourthly - the souls games are relatively known quantities to players on this site. While Elden Ring is certainly reaching out to new players and bringing in souls-neophytes generally, on this site, a HUGE percentage of people playing Elden Ring have played at least some Soulsborne games, and so the general level of applicable skill is pretty high. Folks know what to expect, and they sharpened their skills on other, less forgiving versions of the same formula. Fifthly - summoning. It's a fun game to play, and there are good rewards for helping a brother out with the tough bosses, so lots of people are always ready to give some help to those in need of a sell-sword! And last but not least... it's REALLY fucking good! ? It's not only massive, but varied, interesting, compulsive and continually drawing you into it - it's one of those games where just exploring anywhere is virtually guaranteed to yield new, interesting stuff... and so it's certainly one of those games that will keep people wanting to play more and more - and since the trophy list is relatively simple - a "just play, and don't worry about it" kinda deal - it's naturally going to drag the percentages up. Edited November 1, 2022 by DrBloodmoney 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAK-KRIEG Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 It would be interesting to know how many of the casuals that have Elden Ring plat also have the Sekiro plat where you are on your own with no one to hand you the plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SairenOne Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JAK-KRIEG said: It would be interesting to know how many of the casuals that have Elden Ring plat also have the Sekiro plat where you are on your own with no one to hand you the plat. You can`t compare those Games. Sekiro was the only FromSoft Game i stopped playing because of the combat mechanic. its complete different from the other games. Edited November 1, 2022 by SairenOne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAK-KRIEG Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, SairenOne said: You can`t compare those Games. Sekiro was the only FromSoft Game i stopped playing because of the combat mechanic. its complete different from the other games. Of course I can it's the same style and no coop which makes it arguably harder to plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SairenOne Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, JAK-KRIEG said: Of course I can it's the same style and no coop which makes it arguably harder to plat. its not "the same style". the combat is complete different. what are you talking? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAK-KRIEG Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, SairenOne said: its not "the same style". the combat is complete different. what are you talking? Hold up wait a second are you questioning my opinion? Lol I feel it is the same style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JAK-KRIEG said: Of course I can it's the same style and no coop which makes it arguably harder to plat. You can, but even without the co-op element, I'd argue it's not really a direct 1-to-1 comparison. I generally don't summon often in Souls games, but even without co-op aspects, I still found Sekiro a significantly harder game than any of the others, primarily because of the removal of the "speccing" element. In all other Souls games, part of the journey and the path to victory is in the tinkering with different weapons and builds, finding new items, crafting new things, experimenting with the builds, and finding a specific style of play that suits you, and the situation presented. In Sekiro though, that side doesn't really exist - it's morel like picking up someone else's build, and you have to adapt too it, or die trying! ? So the fights become much more about finesse and raw execution, than of preparedness and character / build dynamics. I liked Sekiro quite a bit, of course - no shade on Sekiro from me - but I'd say while it has some similarities to Souls games, it has as much that is in opposition to the standard Souls formula as it does in common with it. Edited November 1, 2022 by DrBloodmoney 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAK-KRIEG Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, DrBloodmoney said: You can, but even without the co-op element, I'd argue it's not really a direct 1-to-1 comparison. I generally don't summon often in Souls games, but even without co-op aspects, I still found Sekiro a significantly harder game than any of the others, primarily because of the removal of the "speccing" element. In all other Souls games, part of the journey and the path to victory is in the tinkering with different weapons and builds, finding new items, crafting new things, experimenting with the builds, and finding a specific style of play that suits you, and the situation presented. In Sekiro though, that side doesn't really exist - it's morel like picking up someone else's build, and you have to adapt too it, or die trying! So the fights become much more a bout finesse and raw execution, than of preparedness and character / build dynamics. I liked Sekiro quite a bit, of course - no shade on Sekiro from me - but I'd say while it has some similarities to Souls games, it has as much that is in opposition to the standard souls formula as it does in common with it. I'm not comparing them 1-1 though am I? I'm only comparing them because it's the same company and in my opinion similar style. And the fact it's aguably harder because there's no one to hold your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JAK-KRIEG said: I'm not comparing them 1-1 though am I? I'm only comparing them because it's the same company and in my opinion similar style. And the fact it's aguably harder because there's no one to hold your hand. True - I'm just saying I think it'd be significantly harder regardless of the co-op. Even playing solo, I'd argue Elden Ring is an easier game than Sekiro was. Edited November 1, 2022 by DrBloodmoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAK-KRIEG Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, DrBloodmoney said: True - I'm just saying I think it'd be significantly harder regardless of the co-op. Even playing solo, I'd argue Elden Ring is an easier game than Sekiro was. I agree with this though others might not hence why I said arguably. The learning curve is imo also steeper in sekiro, combat is more "advanced". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly_Ha_Ha Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 No, it's not, it's not a 7, 8, or 9 as it was initially listed in that guide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SairenOne Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, JAK-KRIEG said: Hold up wait a second are you questioning my opinion? Lol I feel it is the same style. in my opinion its the same style as Super Mario Bros... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAK-KRIEG Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, SairenOne said: in my opinion its the same style as Super Mario Bros... I would consider getting some fresh air if you think that lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boorish Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) I find the difficulty rating of souls games in the guides to be a little inconsistent with how the difficulty is assigned to others games on PSNP. Difficulty ratings in guides for other games usually assume that you are following the guide and are playing on the easiest difficulty possible. I personally found the platinum for this game to be a lot easier than some of the other games I have played and platinum'd. Edited November 1, 2022 by boorish_brute 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SairenOne Posted November 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, JAK-KRIEG said: I would consider getting some fresh air if you think that lmao. Hold up wait a second are you questioning my opinion? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAK-KRIEG Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, SairenOne said: Hold up wait a second are you questioning my opinion? No just some friendly advice lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Auto-Tomato Posted November 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2022 I think the 7/10 rating is just erring on the safe side for the uninitiated, for seasoned Souls players it's nowhere near a 7/10, probably the easiest of the franchise. The games have a steep learning curve and a grind commitment, but really aren't as hard as they like to market. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good_Sir_Matt_II Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 People who play Soulsborne games are generally committed to doing everything in the game. They live and breathe this genre so the platinums don't even up being that rare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasondm300 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I think another thing that makes this a very easily obtainable plat is that, with a bit of save uploading, you can plat the game in one playthrough, plus a couple more hours, unlike the other ones where it is mandatory to play multiple times for rings and such. And it is by far the easiest of From's games, but I loved it to bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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