The FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 Discussion Thread

[Roronora_Zoro666 1,392]

2 hours ago, Pirelli913 said:

 

Do what I do lol

 

https://twitter.com/Pirelli913/status/1594196364703199232?s=20&t=ZY8JdymQWF_f6c_Og4VUfg

 

 

In your defense, assuming you live in the USA, FS1 had them marked an hour earlier because they want people to turn into the hour long pregame. 

I was watching it on Peacock and they misled me it seems. I just googled World Cup matches and I went off from that to update.

 

Imma avoid most of the games tomorrow. No offense to any UK fans, but I just don’t care 😂 

 

Im only interested in the Netherlands match. If I’m up though, who knows I may humor the idea.

[Vergil 4,114]

7 minutes ago, Slipknot_rooney said:

Fuck Qatar. Nothing but a money racket, which people died for. I wont say anymore on the matter, ban me if need be.

 

Watching Dallas and Minnesota now, not massive on NFL but an interesting sport nonetheless.

Yet every country in the world would like to have that money also. But yeah. 

 

I mean what ive read they made a 10 billion dollar deal with UK also. 

 

Of course. It is sad that so many lost their lifes for this world cup. 

[Slipknot_rooney 261]

1 minute ago, Vergil said:

Yet every country in the world would like to have that money also

 

That's all it comes down to.

 

The passion for football is lost. 

[Vergil 4,114]

2 minutes ago, Slipknot_rooney said:

 

That's all it comes down to.

 

The passion for football is lost. 

That we agree on. It has skyrocked. 

[Spike_Hostile17 163]

8 hours ago, Jeanoltt said:

Qatar has no culture of football and they absolutely don't deserve the world cup. This isn't at attack or something, I would be more than glad if they give the cup to another african country like South Africa, but not like this. Fans were dissapearing after the second goal, only half an hour into the match. And when I mean fans I mean rich class watching the show.

 

Football was always about the lower classes, stories like those move the sport forward, and not these kind of intros where Qatar plays the victim while there were thousands of deaths in the preparation of the WC, slavery, homophobia, shady human rights, etc.

USA got the WC in 1994 and they had zero culture about "soccer" and I am sure some people could have found some dirt to say about america (slavery, gulf war, war in iraq, only country to nuke civilians, genocide of native americans, you know the usual stuff). Talking about "shady human rights", why did people watch the WC 2018 in Russia then ? Besides, I think the Qatar teams right now would totally wreck the MLS teams of '94. Spain Legend Xavi played for quite some time in Al Sadd.

 

I think Qatar deserves its World Cup. I don't like the hypocrisy from the West. People have to understand there will always be homophobia in muslim countries because it is tied to their culture and religion. So in that case, you have to stop doing business with the Middle-East countries but because they own most of the oil, that won't happen. Same goes for all the luxury brands and starred restaurants they own ..... I have been to Africa a lot, being gay/trans is seen as deviant and filthy by the vast majority of people, then should we boycott africa ? or in this precise case, that would be racism ? The double standard is pathetic.

Why do people watch NBA when the league promotes on every court and every jersey a corrupted black supremacists association that preaches hate and used the donations for personal purpose ? Only Qatar is blameworthy ?

Then why people keep watching Messi,Mbappe and Neymar in PSG even though the team is owned by Qatar ? Why nobody boycott Air Jordan for being the sponsor of a Qatar-owned sports team ?

You see, I don't give a f about Qatar personally, but I just found ridiculous to condemn Qatar for being the host of THIS event because of their laws while being perfectly OK with other countries doing same or worse, and being OK with Qatar for other events (no problem with Federer, Nadal or Murray winning the Doha ATP tournament...). Seeing the lgbtq mafia forcing dumbass hypocritical players (hello england) to wear a rainbow armband on the field while barking from their overprotected and oversupportive gay-friendly Western countries just confirm how biased the critics are.

Even tho there is no Italy competing, I will still be watching interesting teams like Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Uruguay, Serbia or Japan.

[Jeanoltt 2,515]

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Edited November 21, 2022 by Jeanoltt
Dumb argument with a dumb person.

[Glorious Fury 492]

I'm looking forward to the World Cup bigtime. Kinda sucks Italy didn't make it, as they are a heavyweight in international football and should be there.

 

England did well in the Euros, but we had a fairly easy route to the final, which I don't see being the case again here. Our team has some excellent players and at the very least we should be getting to the Quarter Finals. England need Kyle Walker back though, as he is vital to system Southgate plays. Playing Stones/Maguire in a back 3 without Walker could leave us very exposed or we have to go to a back 4. 

 

Really tricky to pick a favourite for this World Cup. Brazil look the best team on paper, they have incredible depth compared to the other nations. I'd put Portugal in there (even with Ronaldo's recent interview which likely hasn't gone down well in the camp, particularly with Dalot/Bruno) as they have a really nice starting squad. Rafael Leao is one of my favourite players currently so hoping he can show his best in this WC. Argentina also with Messi being in sparkling form coming into the competition. Germany, Belgium, France, Netherlands and Spain are all weaker than previous years, but still are good sides and should get to the knockout stages. 

[Spike_Hostile17 163]

So you think this is the ONLY country that bought an international event lol ? Get real, this kind of thing happens all the time. There are billions involved for any WC, OG and other big events. Living in Korea and knowing how corrupted politicians have always been for decades (Officials admitted bribing the judges for Roy Jones final fight in the OG 1988), you really think they got the WC 2002 fair and square ? not even mentioning the referees they bribed for the 1/8 and 1/4 finals who got banned for life from FIFA afterwards.

The Gulf war was 1990-91, right when the US were preparing for '94 WC, you ditched history class ? So it doesn't matter if a host country invades an other country for oil but it matters if one among dozens and dozens of other muslims countries is hostile towards the glorified lgbtq "community". That's both dumb and a double standard. My policy is either you condemn everything everywhere or you just shut up. Saying we must condemn a country for its laws when it hosts a "major" event, but when it comes to "minor" yet international renowned event, it is totally fine, that's a great logic lol .....

Like I said, I am not a fan of qatar but if you wanna boycott them, then almost everything else has to be boycotted.

For the rest, it's another topic but yes, i consider qatar's laws as dangerous and dishonest as the lgbtq mob which cancels individuals as soon as they disagree with them and also pushes surgery and castration while promoting gender transitioning to 10-15yo naive and easily influenced kids/teens. Both are horrible but somehow one is harshly criticized by the West while the other receives subventions from most of governments and is glorified by the medias. I could also tell you don't trashtalk qatar if you support blm, KKK or lgbtq.

 

[Matto_lsi 578]

7 hours ago, Amato1fifty said:

Anyone else expecting the USMNT to be extremely disappointing tomorrow?

 

Of course, but I'm still always hopeful.  I've been watching WC for nearly 30 years, and it's always funny how it's promoted here, like 'Yey, we're the US, we're so good at sports, we're totally going to win and shit', and then the reality sets in when we get one win if we're lucky, maybe limp into the round of 16 despite having a negative goal differential, and if so, get run off the field in humiliating fashion.  The problem is the fluke that was the 2002 WC set unrealistic expectations (as did winning our group in 2010 - by hilarious triple tie-breaker), so our fair weather fans now think we have a legit chance and every 4 years they cheer extra loud.... at least until the group stage ends and we go home.  I don't even remember seeing any live coverage for the WC in 2018 simply cause the US didn't even qualify (how embarrassing was that?! lol).  I think Fox had the broadcast rights but only posted recap videos on their website, but I could be wrong.  So, can we get out of the group stage this year?  Sure.  Will we?  Probably not.  But it's definitely a possibility, stranger things have happened, and I'll still be hopeful.  I mean, we got Pulisic, right?  Just ask any 'fan' on the street and they'll tell you, he'll take us all the way!  (Honestly, I think he's the only player anyone in this country knows by name since Landon Donovan retired).

[Spike_Hostile17 163]

17 minutes ago, Glorious Fury said:

I'm looking forward to the World Cup bigtime. Kinda sucks Italy didn't make it, as they are a heavyweight in international football and should be there.

 

England did well in the Euros, but we had a fairly easy route to the final, which I don't see being the case again here. Our team has some excellent players and at the very least we should be getting to the Quarter Finals. England need Kyle Walker back though, as he is vital to system Southgate plays. Playing Stones/Maguire in a back 3 without Walker could leave us very exposed or we have to go to a back 4. 

 

Really tricky to pick a favourite for this World Cup. Brazil look the best team on paper, they have incredible depth compared to the other nations. I'd put Portugal in there (even with Ronaldo's recent interview which likely hasn't gone down well in the camp, particularly with Dalot/Bruno) as they have a really nice starting squad. Rafael Leao is one of my favourite players currently so hoping he can show his best in this WC. Argentina also with Messi being in sparkling form coming into the competition. Germany, Belgium, France, Netherlands and Spain are all weaker than previous years, but still are good sides and should get to the knockout stages. 

Atfer replying to Karen, I was about to leave but when i see a gentleman with Totti's picture, I feel I gotta talk. 

Italy was too naive during the PO game against Macedonia, just like the PO game against Sweden in 2018, they couldn't score a damn goal even when shooting 30 times, that has to serve as a lesson for the next decade. Hopefully, Chiesa, Zaniolo, Barella, Bastoni and Donna can be at their peak in 2026.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised to see France go far. They proved in 2018 they could win while being dominated in stats like Ball possession, Shots, Shots on target, Passes made .... So if you combine their cheap tactics of just countering and waiting for Mbappe to outrun the defense with a very lucky draw (Peru, Australia, '18 denmark, Uruguay after Cavani got injured against Spain, Croatia after they went two times in OT and PK SO), they can sadly win it again.

Everybody thinks Brazil will make it but honestly, Serbia and 2022 Switzerland are no pushover. Brazilians have a history of choking recently either with the national team or with PSG (infamous remontada against barca even tho the ref was a joke, chokes against Madrid and ManU after dominating the first game...)

Just enjoy the games and let the haters hate as usual.

[Jeanoltt 2,515]

33 minutes ago, Spike_Hostile17 said:

For the rest, it's another topic but yes, i consider qatar's laws as dangerous and dishonest as the lgbtq mob which cancels individuals as soon as they disagree with them and also pushes surgery and castration while promoting gender transitioning to 10-15yo naive and easily influenced kids/teens. Both are horrible but somehow one is harshly criticized by the West while the other receives subventions from most of governments and is glorified by the medias. I could also tell you don't trashtalk qatar if you support blm, KKK or lgbtq.

 

Leave some bigotry for the rest men.

Edited November 21, 2022 by Jeanoltt

[Riiszk 468]

Came here for football, got something else. Nothing has been said here that hasn't been said in the last 10+ years. 

Only thing I want to hear about Qatar now is how shit they were last night, but that won't happen so I guess this thread is kind of useless now

[GoldenShaka 2,167]

6 minutes ago, Riiszk said:

Came here for football, got something else. Nothing has been said here that hasn't been said in the last 10+ years. 

Only thing I want to hear about Qatar now is how shit they were last night, but that won't happen so I guess this thread is kind of useless now

They reminded me Ecuador when they debuted against Italy many years ago. Qatar waa nervous, Ecuador exploited that but sadly they didn't try to score more goals. I guess it's just country's idiosyncrasy, Ecuador has never been hungry for winning. 

[Riiszk 468]

6 minutes ago, GoldenShaka said:

They reminded me Ecuador when they debuted against Italy many years ago. Qatar waa nervous, Ecuador exploited that but sadly they didn't try to score more goals. I guess it's just country's idiosyncrasy, Ecuador has never been hungry for winning. 

Never having played in a world cup and the very first game being when you host it in front of your own people.. Yeah nerves really got to them. Interesting to see how they'll do in another game or 2. 

Yeah, Ecuador seemed good, but may just be because of how Qatar played 

[HansPatat050 477]

The Netherlands is playing today. We have Louis van Gaal as coach (ex Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Man United) and he already made some unexpected but very interesting choices. He's the type of coach who will sub the goalie just before a penalty shootout. It's recognized that the Dutch need team spirit and strong tactical plays in order to make it far in the tournament. Top tier players mixed with talentfull juveniles. Tactics by Louis. I don't see any problems coming in first in the group, with Senegal, Ecuador and Qatar.

 

Football is number 1 sport in The Netherlands so it's all over the news. No support for the entourage, focus on the matches.

 

Edited November 21, 2022 by HansPatat050

[Hitman_Spinksy1 828]

It’s already coming home for England until we embarrass ourselves and realise the only thing coming home is the team, probably met by racism and death threats once again 

[Roronora_Zoro666 1,392]

Can someone @ me later about the score and highlights if there are any for the England vs. Iran game?

[Glorious Fury 492]

3 hours ago, Spike_Hostile17 said:

I was about to leave but when i see a gentleman with Totti's picture, I feel I gotta talk. 

Italy was too naive during the PO game against Macedonia, just like the PO game against Sweden in 2018, they couldn't score a damn goal even when shooting 30 times, that has to serve as a lesson for the next decade. Hopefully, Chiesa, Zaniolo, Barella, Bastoni and Donna can be at their peak in 2026.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised to see France go far. They proved in 2018 they could win while being dominated in stats like Ball possession, Shots, Shots on target, Passes made .... So if you combine their cheap tactics of just countering and waiting for Mbappe to outrun the defense with a very lucky draw (Peru, Australia, '18 denmark, Uruguay after Cavani got injured against Spain, Croatia after they went two times in OT and PK SO), they can sadly win it again.

Everybody thinks Brazil will make it but honestly, Serbia and 2022 Switzerland are no pushover. Brazilians have a history of choking recently either with the national team or with PSG (infamous remontada against barca even tho the ref was a joke, chokes against Madrid and ManU after dominating the first game...)

Just enjoy the games and let the haters hate as usual.

 

Yeah, hopefully that crop of players can be at the next World Cup. Being a fan of Totti I have a spot spot for Zaniolo and whilst a good player currently, he can be so much more. 

 

Tricky with France to know as several high profile players are injured and some key players have declined in recent years, but yeah I'd expect them to at least make the last 8. Deschamps is super conservative with his tactics as you mentioned, so with a team with talent playing negatively with one one of the most explosive, talented forwards in Football can cause damage to those who are more expansive. No Benzema, Pogba, Kante, (although he has declined bigtime in the last year) Nkunku, will be troublesome but they have good depth to overcome this. However, the run for them to the final 4 isn't too bad on paper if they finish top of the group, we (England) are potentially the hardest game for them to get to that stage of the competition. 

 

Serbia are a bit of underdog for me as well. Got a strong Serie A crop Vlahovic, Milinkovic Savic, Kostic and others. Mitrovic is a handful for defenders and has had a good season here in the EPL. Can't see Brazil going out though in groups though, but then again it's the World Cup, anything can happen! 

 

1 hour ago, HansPatat050 said:

The Netherlands is playing today. We have Louis van Gaal as coach (ex Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Man United) and he already made some unexpected but very interesting choices. He's the type of coach who will sub the goalie just before a penalty shootout. It's recognized that the Dutch need team spirit and strong tactical plays in order to make it far in the tournament. Top tier players mixed with talentfull juveniles. Tactics by Louis. I don't see any problems coming in first in the group, with Senegal, Ecuador and Qatar.

 

I'm a fan of Van Gaal, he is a proper character who takes no shit. He had some hilarious press conferences when he was at Man United. I'd be surprised if Netherlands played anything other than 3 at the back as he's so damn obsessed with it. Hopefully Netherlands have a good showing as it would be a fitting end to his career. 

 

Edited November 21, 2022 by Glorious Fury

[neospoon 1,379]

@Roronora_Zoro666

I’ll try and keep you updated if I dont forget, I get to go home early today from work so I can watch The Netherlands against Senegal. Any predictions yet score wise?

[Vergil 4,114]

England - Iran 1-1

Netherlands - Senegal 2-1

Usa - Wales - 1-2

[Hitman_Spinksy1 828]

England - Iran 2-0

Netherlands - Senegal 3-1

USA - Wales 1-1 

[tampines11 88]

England - Iran 1-0

Netherlands - Senegal 4-0

USA - Wales 2-1 

[zulqarmessi 1,741]

England - Iran  2-0

Netherlands - Senegal 3-1

USA - Wales 1-1

 

[neospoon 1,379]

@Roronora_Zoro666

 

England 3 - 0 Iran ‘35 - ‘42 - ‘44

Edited November 21, 2022 by neospoon

[zulqarmessi 1,741]

Raheem, Saka, Bellingham.

The three lions scored.

Very entertaining first half 😍

Edited November 21, 2022 by zulqarmessi