Impossible mode?

[dougrayman]

What's impossible mode? Same as before, just highest difficulty? Did they add anything? Is it available from the start or you have to beat the game? Can it be done in ng+?

[wardragon989]

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What's impossible mode? Same as before, just highest difficulty?

 

Impossible mode is the higest diffculty in the original Dead Space game. More Info about the mode: https://deadspace.fandom.com/wiki/Impossible_mode

 

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Did they add anything?

 

Unknown. The remake is not out yet. Neither is details for this mode.

 

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Is it available from the start or you have to beat the game?

 

On the original Dead Space you needed to complete the game on any difficulty. On the remake the unlock conditions are unknown.

 

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Can it be done in ng+?

 

Unknown. The remake is not out yet but on the original Dead Space NG+ wasn't NG+ (in the normal sense). Whatever difficulty you completed the game on and then started NG+ was what teh difficulty of NG+. Clear a game on Normal then start NG+, you'll be on Normal NG+.

[SadisticSymphony]

Impossible is the hardest difficulty, and permadeath

[Tyxoune]

8 minutes ago, SecondGenesis said:

Impossible is the hardest difficulty, and permadeath

Has the permadeath thing been confirmed ?

 

The original Dead Space from 2008 didn't have permadeath - Impossible Difficulty was just a "very hard" mode but with unlimited saves and checkpoints.

 

It was actually quite easy to finish with good knowledge of the game and some preparation for harder encounters.

[SH06UN5126]

13 minutes ago, Tyxoune said:

Has the permadeath thing been confirmed ?

 

The original Dead Space from 2008 didn't have permadeath - Impossible Difficulty was just a "very hard" mode but with unlimited saves and checkpoints.

 

It was actually quite easy to finish with good knowledge of the game and some preparation for harder encounters.

Found this saying that it's been confirmed: https://gagadget.com/en/games/177362-remake-not-remaster-new-game-modes-and-extra-missions-the-senior-producer-of-the-dead-space-remake-shared-new-detai/
 

They shared their source in the article (https://www.ppe.pl/publicystyka/306842/dlaczego-remake-a-nie-remaster-rozmawiamy-z-producentem-dead-space-remake-o-pelnym-odswiezeniu-gry-ea.html) but I can't speak to its legitimacy (it's in another language).

 

Although, while I was trying to find another source, I found someone on resetera also referencing it (https://www.resetera.com/threads/dead-space-original-vs-remake-ign.661990/post-99122425).

 

 

Edited January 24, 2023 by SH06UN5126
Second URL was wrong

[DETfaninATL]

6 hours ago, Tyxoune said:

Has the permadeath thing been confirmed ?

I found this the other day and the source is in the link below it. **HOPEFULY** we will be able to use game saves to mitigate this, otherwise it may be very near 'impossible' especially with that stupid turret sequence and another spot or two I can think of. That and the fact that they've randomized some enemy encounters while backtracking, in order to keep players on their toes.This may just be the toughest Dead Space plat yet!

 

"The remake will feature New Game+ mode, which will make the game even harder and more diverse with repeated playthroughs providing more challenging monsters. Fans of the maximum difficulty will be able to use the Impossible Mode, in which after the death of the hero the game will start over."

 

https://gagadget.com/en/games/177362-remake-not-remaster-new-game-modes-and-extra-missions-the-senior-producer-of-the-dead-space-remake-shared-new-detai-amp/

 

EDIT: Just noticed this is the same link the poster above me cited as well.

Edited January 24, 2023 by DETfaninATL

[Stormwarrior90]

I think it's fake or poorly translated, that site is the only who talk about a Permadeath 

[Creasy007]

Yes, it's the only one I've found that confirms the Permadeath, so I really hope it's not the case. If it is, they better allow for a few saves along the way or something so it needn't be done in one sitting.

[PhantomFear94]

Lol never mind

 

Like others have said, I can't find anything else verifying it. I can find multiple articles confirming it only unlocks after beating the game once through "normally", and that item drops are scarse/necromorph hit hard, but nothing about permadeath. GInfinity and game8 mention nothing of permadeath, as well as a bunch of other sites I'm less familiar with. Some people are saying there is a creative director interview confirming it, though. We'll see soon enough...

 

 

Edited January 25, 2023 by PhantomFear94

[HardModeTrophies]

On 1/24/2023 at 11:29 AM, SH06UN5126 said:

They shared their source in the article (https://www.ppe.pl/publicystyka/306842/dlaczego-remake-a-nie-remaster-rozmawiamy-z-producentem-dead-space-remake-o-pelnym-odswiezeniu-gry-ea.html) but I can't speak to its legitimacy (it's in another language).

 

"[...] będziesz mógł także sprawdzić Impossible Mode, w którym jeśli zginiesz, to będziesz musiał rozpoczynać zabawę od początku”.

 

Loosely translated: If you die, you'll have to start over from the beginning.

 

Edited January 25, 2023 by HardModeTrophies

[Spike_Hostile17]

2 minutes ago, HardModeTrophies said:

 

"[...] będziesz mógł także sprawdzić Impossible Mode, w którym jeśli zginiesz, to będziesz musiał rozpoczynać zabawę od początku”.

 

Loosely translated: If you die, you'll have to start the game from the beginning.

 

If there is no save allowed, that would be really dumb. I had no problem with Dead space 2 on xbox 360 because they gave us 3 saves so we could do a 2-3 hours session before saving and moving on BUT if they expect people to play 8-12 hours in a row, that's retarded. I would rather see a trophy for doing a no hit run with limited saves than this. I am waiting for Powerpyx to confirm what it's all about.

[zeifink]

Just started the game. You can select impossible from the start. It says:

 

"A special challenge mode. Completing it will earn a unique suit and weapon.This mode has the same damage settings as Hard Difficulty , but autosaves are disabled; only one save slot is available. and one life. Dying prompts a full restart, or continuing on Hard Difficulty."

[ImAPirateSoSueMe]

1 minute ago, zeifink said:

Just started the game. You can select impossible from the start. It says:

 

"A special challenge mode. Completing it will earn a unique suit and weapon.This mode has the same damage settings as Hard Difficulty , but autosaves are disabled; only one save slot is available. and one life. Dying prompts a full restart, or continuing on Hard Difficulty."

Fucking yikes.

[JohnCenaSong-]

14 minutes ago, zeifink said:

Just started the game. You can select impossible from the start. It says:

 

"A special challenge mode. Completing it will earn a unique suit and weapon.This mode has the same damage settings as Hard Difficulty , but autosaves are disabled; only one save slot is available. and one life. Dying prompts a full restart, or continuing on Hard Difficulty."

Sounds like it can be save scummed, the "one save slot" to me implies you're still able to leave the game and come back to it by loading your one save file and that only death itself resets your save to the start.

 

Part of me understands where people come from when they say it a slight shame when permadeath modes can be save scummed but I also really appreciate permadeath games that don't have to be done in one sitting due to lack of a pause/resume functionality, we don't all have time to play entire games in one sitting after all. The unfortunate side-effect to pause/resume functionality is save scumming usually becomes possible.

 

I don't know how long Dead Space is, but the longer the game the more essential having the ability to save and quit becomes.

[Real_Colinio]

30 minutes ago, zeifink said:

Just started the game. You can select impossible from the start. It says:

 

"A special challenge mode. Completing it will earn a unique suit and weapon.This mode has the same damage settings as Hard Difficulty , but autosaves are disabled; only one save slot is available. and one life. Dying prompts a full restart, or continuing on Hard Difficulty."

Can you save multiple times on that one save slot though? Cause if that's the case then you can somewhat exploit this by uploading the save to the cloud storage every 15 minutes for example and if you die you download it back to the console.

[PhantomFear94]

6 minutes ago, JohnCenaSong- said:

Sounds like it can be save scummed, the "one save slot" to me implies you're still able to leave the game and come back to it by loading your one save file and that only death itself resets your save to the start.

 

Part of me understands where people come from when they say it a slight shame when permadeath modes can be save scummed but I also really appreciate permadeath games that don't have to be done in one sitting due to lack of a pause/resume functionality, we don't all have time to play entire games in one sitting after all. The unfortunate side-effect to pause/resume functionality is save scumming usually becomes possible.

 

I don't know how long Dead Space is, but the longer the game the more essential having the ability to save and quit becomes.

 

I agree. The way I see it, the scenarios where cloud saves and data backups are useful far outweigh the few instances where save scumming annoys elitist trophy/achievement hunters who criticise people for utilising save functionality. When people get criticised with things that can be cheesed, I always come back to these points

 

- It's a game, relax. Have fun your own way.

- You don't have to do the cheese. You can still impose the challenge on yourself, it just means more people will be able to do it.

- (In the case of accessibility options) Having accessibility makes gaming more inclusive, so we should support it, even if it makes certain platinum's less exclusive. 

- There is always someone better than you. The legit-only club probably isn't as exclusive as you'd think. 

[HardModeTrophies]

34 minutes ago, PhantomFear94 said:

- It's a game, relax. Have fun your own way.

- You don't have to do the cheese. You can still impose the challenge on yourself, it just means more people will be able to do it.

- (In the case of accessibility options) Having accessibility makes gaming more inclusive, so we should support it, even if it makes certain platinum's less exclusive. 

- There is always someone better than you. The legit-only club probably isn't as exclusive as you'd think. 

 

All of these points can be used to justify hacking and glitching trophies, by the way. I mean, it's just numbers on a screen, who cares, right?

I'm not saying I'm completely against cheesing, but I feel like the mentality being displayed here is... depressing? "The developer included an actually difficult trophy for once - I must find a way to cheat"

On top of that, this post is completely disingenuous given the context we're in (a website dedicated to trophy-hunting, with leaderboards and rarity statistics). Of course people care about the exclusivity of a plat, duh. It's like complaining about the fact that people on a bodybuilding forum care about their physique... 

[Alos88]

2 minutes ago, HardModeTrophies said:

Of course people care about the exclusivity of a plat, duh. It's like complaining about the fact that people on a bodybuilding forum care about their physique... 

What? Get outta here with that. How other people play their games is no one's business but their own- as long as they aren't literally using autopop cheating software there's nothing wrong with that stuff. 

[jonesey46]

7 minutes ago, HardModeTrophies said:

 "The developer included an actually difficult trophy for once - I must find a way to cheat"

Why do you care though?

[EightBitArtist]

a permadeath mode with no saves in a game where it is longer than 3 or 4 hours long is always a bad idea because of potential crashes ruining your run.

[EcoShifter]

2 hours ago, zeifink said:

Just started the game. You can select impossible from the start. It says:

 

"A special challenge mode. Completing it will earn a unique suit and weapon.This mode has the same damage settings as Hard Difficulty , but autosaves are disabled; only one save slot is available. and one life. Dying prompts a full restart, or continuing on Hard Difficulty."

 

Hold up. One life and one save; are you sure and can you test? I thought they'd imitate Dead Space 3's hardest difficulty feature: one life w/ infinite saves as long as you stay alive. Your description would make this more strict than anything in the original trilogy. I assume it at least shares the same logic of allowing you to quit the game and resume save like in DS3, given it's not actually a death.

Edited January 25, 2023 by EcoShifter

[Cloud_Squall78]

8 minutes ago, EcoShifter said:

Hold up. One life and one save; are you sure and can you test? I thought they'd imitate Dead Space 3's hardest difficulty features, which is one life w/ infinite saves as long as you stay alive. Your description would make this more strict than anything in the original trilogy. I assume it at least shares the same logic of allowing you to quit the game and resume save like in DS3 given it's not actually a death.

He said one life and one save slot, which sounds closer to DS3's hardest difficulty. The description implies you can save over that one slot as many times as you want as long as you don't die.

Edited January 25, 2023 by Cloud_Squall78
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[Creasy007]

Yes, sounds like the save slot lets you maintain your progress without having to complete it all in one sitting (hopefully, anyway). That's all I'm asking for.

[HoorayForTyler]

Hoping someone can confirm whether or not Impossible mode is available in NG+ after playing on any difficulty. That would be a huge help when going for trophies. 

[ArtMontef]

53 minutes ago, HardModeTrophies said:

 

All of these points can be used to justify hacking and glitching trophies, by the way. I mean, it's just numbers on a screen, who cares, right?

I'm not saying I'm completely against cheesing, but I feel like the mentality being displayed here is... depressing? "The developer included an actually difficult trophy for once - I must find a way to cheat"

On top of that, this post is completely disingenuous given the context we're in (a website dedicated to trophy-hunting, with leaderboards and rarity statistics). Of course people care about the exclusivity of a plat, duh. It's like complaining about the fact that people on a bodybuilding forum care about their physique... 

Pretty bad comparison. It's more like people on bodybuilding forum complaining someone uses suplements and enhancers to gain their physique. They can do it naturally with their diet and exercise and be proud of that. Others might do it with help. And others might go completely cheat route and use steroids, equivalent to blatant cheaters using hacked trophies and claiming they are legit. With save scumming all you are saving is time. You still have to beat the game yourself, with your own skills, you're only skipping the replaying the parts that you already did. If you are bad at the game save scumming won't help you anyway, if a boss or group of enemies will be a roadblock. 

 

This conversation with people complaining how others play the game comes up every time any even small workaround or glitch comes up. It's pointless, both complaining when game is too hard to platinum, too easy to platinum, has glitches, doesn't have glitches, etc. Just play the game and enjoy it. You are competitive and want challenge? Fine, do what makes you happy. You want a platinum as a way to "show" your love for a franchise without banging your head against the wall for tens of hours? Also fine.