CaptainJeff87 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 It was announced in November that shovelware would no longer be published to the store Great news right? Someone had mentioned that Sony approves games weeks in advance so most figured by the end of December it'd be the end but it's almost February and we still get the crappy jumping/quiz/stroke the animal/etc games on a weekly and sometimes daily basis What happened? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sweeping-lamp3 Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 I thought Sony was already slowly enforcing it. I read somewhere that smobile's Oktoberfest games (fun, run, break, break head to head) was recently delisted from the North America and Europe stores. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeHuntress Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Perhaps the source that announced the news isn't as reliable... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zizimonster Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 Some shovelware abominations have just been removed from PlayStation Store. ? 20 hours ago, AdrenalStone21 said: Oktoberfest Run Oktoberfest Fun Oktoberfest Break Oktoberfest Break to Break These all seem to delisted on the NA store Good first move, I'd say. ? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChibsSoA Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 IMO all games sub $5 (not on sale) should be banned from the PSN store. And any games that have less than $500 in sales within 12 months of release should also be removed. The fact that there is no quality control, that they are just letting anything and everything on for the sake of "fairness" is so disgusting. Devs who can't dev should stick to steam to release their garbage/first games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJeff87 Posted February 1, 2023 Author Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, zizimonster said: Some shovelware abominations have just been removed from PlayStation Store. Good first move, I'd say. Awesome news Fingers crossed that happens with the countless jumping games, random quiz games, etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaivRules Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, CaptainJeff87 said: What happened? When exactly did Sony say they would implement this policy? I’m not sure that people’s speculations counts as actual sources for the facts of the matter. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1andonly654 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Does it matter at this point? The aspects of trophy hunting that could be ruined by the shovelware plague were ruined by it. Good first move but too little, way too late. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlindMango Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) While the initial source of that news isn't all that reliable, it makes sense that they would get that news since I assume they presumably talked to the shovelware devs, plus it was confirmed by reliable sources afterwards. The only problem is games that were approved before-hand are still able to be published, which those pre-approved games could still be releasing today... I have noticed some of these "developers" have started to try skirting around Sony's rules the past week or two where they aren't necessarily making "similar experience" asset flips, however are making cheap garbage that they can still create in a matter of hours/days. I think Sony left too many loopholes back in November with the new rules, they were trying to be too nice or not intrude on real indie devs or something I guess. They just basically need to say "We will be quality reviewing each title and if it's doesn't pass, it doesn't publish". I hope Sony just gets fed up and bans all of them off the store who are trying to skirt around it Edited February 1, 2023 by BlindMango 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Infected Elite Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, BlindMango said: While the initial source of the news isn't all that reliable, it makes sense that they would get that news since I assume they presumably talked to the shovelware devs, plus it was confirmed by reliable sources afterwards. The only problem is games that were approved before-hand are still able to be published, which those pre-approved games could still be releasing today... I have seen "developers" start to try skirting around Sony's rules the past week or two where they aren't making "similar experience" asset flips necessarily, however are making cheap garbage that they can still create in a matter of hours/days. I hope Sony just gets fed up and bans all of them off the store who are trying to skirt around it and then if PSNP bans all users with any of the shovelware games. It'd be a beautiful sight/site ? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlindMango Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Infected Elite said: and then if PSNP bans all users with any of the shovelware games. It'd be a beautiful sight/site No need, it's enough of a punishment simply being stuck with those games on your profile for the rest of time lol 56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZitMeatloaf Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChibsSoA said: IMO all games sub $5 (not on sale) should be banned from the PSN store. And any games that have less than $500 in sales within 12 months of release should also be removed. Arbitrary thresholds won't solve the problem. By your suggestions, a theoretical release of Vampire Survivors would be banned from the PSN store if they tried to release it at the same $4.99 price that it currently goes for on Steam and Xbox. But they'd be allowed to sell it for $5.01? As for removing games with low sales for that reason alone, what would be the point of that? People have already decided not to play those games. Seems to me that would just serve to punish newly formed studios and developers trying to break into the business more than anything else. Edited February 1, 2023 by ZitMeatloaf Typo 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Anything that was approved before the word got out will still be released. Could still be a lot. Of course, assuming it's true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xillynoc Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, ChibsSoA said: And any games that have less than $500 in sales within 12 months of release should also be removed. I wouldn't go that far. Some games just fly completely under the radar, regardless of quality, often because they're overshadowed by other releases or just not commonly displayed in searches. Not fair to those devs for factors outside their control. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darling Baphomet Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 Honestly, even if they stop publishing new games at this point any sort of trophy hunting leaderboard will be worthless until shovelware starts getting devalued or delisted (from the leaderboard) entirely. 1 hour ago, ChibsSoA said: IMO all games sub $5 (not on sale) should be banned from the PSN store. And any games that have less than $500 in sales within 12 months of release should also be removed. The fact that there is no quality control, that they are just letting anything and everything on for the sake of "fairness" is so disgusting. Devs who can't dev should stick to steam to release their garbage/first games Yeah, no, this is a terrible take. The PS store has been notoriously bad for indie devs and there's already many indie devs who refuse to port to the platform because it's just not worth it for them. The problem isn't cheap / bad games, the problem is shovelware. Games specifically designed for no purpose but to award trophies. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) Was thinking the same thing, but a good number of shovelware was delisted, what still bothers me is when I'm looking through the sales and 40% of the games under a certain price are all shovelware, or "games" you could make in a hour with a different cover, so you still have to dig through shit to find the decent ones not to mention the good indie games that get drowned along with the trash, l've been using Platprices for a while now and it helps a LOT but there's still trash a galore littering the store, looking through the sales on Sony's own store is a nightmare, really hope they nuke all this garbage as soon as possible. Edited February 1, 2023 by Sunnyburrito 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixgaming1 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 But Sony never confirmed that? it was only ever rumored because of words from anonymous devs. If I'm wrong I'd love a source that actually is from Sony themselves confirming this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman_Spinksy1 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sunnyburrito said: Was thinking the same thing, but a good number of shovelware was delisted, what still bothers me is when I'm looking through the sales and 40% of the games under a certain price are all shovelware, or "games" you could make in a hour with a different cover, so you still have to dig through shit to find the decent ones not to mention the good indie games that get drowned along with the trash, l've been using Platprices for a while now and it helps a LOT but there's still trash a golore littering the store, looking through the sales on Sony's own store is a nightmare, really hope they nuke all this garbage as soon as possible. I agree with this completely. In the end I started using a minium price of $5 and up to filter out all the shovelware. I know I end up missing a lot of indies and some games that end up on a mega sale but I end up missing them anyway trying to find anything amongst the shovelware. Or I get too tired of looking and give up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dry Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) SIE supposedly brings in new PS Store policy but they’ve barely, if ever committed to their promise(s). Why’s this you ask? Simple really. These games make them money. 3 hours ago, BlindMango said: I have noticed some of these "developers" have started to try skirting around Sony's rules the past week or two where they aren't necessarily making "similar experience" asset flips, however are making cheap garbage that they can still create in a matter of hours/days. Shovelware, uh… Finds a way. Edited February 1, 2023 by Dry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExHaseo Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 They never said they'd be delisting all shovelware. That's just what headlines pushed. Sony only said they'd be delisting duplicate games and giving certain ones less priority so they appear lower in things like searches and on new release pages. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeath91 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Yes https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/20815-buy-the-game-i-have-a-gun-sheesh-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Infected Elite Posted February 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, BlindMango said: No need, it's enough of a punishment simply being stuck with those games on your profile for the rest of time lol True. I just get a laugh out of their logic behind playing such "games". Classics such as: "it gives me games to play between big releases", to "these are games. I like easy ones.", and "i must rank up so i play these games to destroy the competition". All these games and more on your profile starting at $1.99, order now ? Personally anyone with the shovelware games starting when the first animal whatever came out, should be banned permanently from leaderboards. Edited February 1, 2023 by Infected Elite Double posted 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweeping-lamp3 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) If I am remembering correctly, I think the first one was The Pig D from November 2021. I wonder how players viewed the game before all of 2022 happened. Did their view change after 2022? Edited February 1, 2023 by sweeping-lamp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostache7 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 4 hours ago, ChibsSoA said: IMO all games sub $5 (not on sale) should be banned from the PSN store. And any games that have less than $500 in sales within 12 months of release should also be removed. Dozens upon dozens upon dozens of Arcade Archives games would disappear. They're certainly not as good as emulating, and they're definitely overpriced given that anyone can easily get ahold of a more authentic ROM of any of them at this point, but it'd be devastating to set that kind of threshold. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordguwa Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Just now, Moostache7 said: Dozens upon dozens upon dozens of Arcade Archives games would disappear. actually they would be safe. arcade archives/ACA NEO GEO games are 8$ apiece (4$ when they rarely go on sale). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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