I need an incentive to do the combat related dlc

[Clavietka]

Recently I've been on a hunt to finish my backlog of semi-finished games (the backlog of 0% games is humongous, though), and I'm currently sitting at 99+ completion%.

 

Dying Light's parkour focused DLC, for example, had long alluded me, but the struggle has paid off.

 

But there are two very scary things left for me: Crash Team Racing's time trials and the combat related DLC trophies for this. The former, although hard, will at least award me with a Platinum. 

 

The combat arena stuff is EASILY the most hated stuff in this game for me, and the prospect of having to do it again 3 more times with WORSE characters is scary. FOR SIX BRONZE TROPHIES.

 

I'm no pro at math, but I have a feeling that playing some easy 100% games would be much more time efficient for my completion% than devoting my time to bring this game from 93% to 100%

 

Any tips or words of encouragement?

[NorEaster717]

Any game that is at zero percent completion can be deleted and not on your profile.  Bring up your trophy list and hit the option button and delete.  You could get rid of a lot of games you don’t want to play.  As far as your idea, that’s entirely up to you.  Just look up on YouTube on getting rid of zero percent completion games if my response didn’t make sense.  Take care.

Edited February 19 by NorEaster717

[Clavietka]

10 minutes ago, NorEaster717 said:

Any game that is at zero percent completion can be deleted and not on your profile.  Bring up your trophy list and hit the option button and delete.  You could get rid of a lot of games you don’t want to play.  As far as your idea, that’s entirely up to you.  Just look up on YouTube on getting rid of zero percent completion games if my response didn’t make sense.  Take care.

 

Hi. I know how to get rid of 0% games. They don't impact your completion %

 

I was just referring to my backlog of digital and physical games I havent started

[NorEaster717]

I didn’t know that they didn’t impact your completion rate.  I just learned something new.  Thanks.

[DeepEyes7]

Because that 100% looks cooler, remember all our suffering getting U3 trophies after closure server and how you went and get the treasure trophy after all that grinding, you won't be defeated by some batman trials, YOU CAN DO IT!

 

P.S. The weight of those 6 bronze trophies (in the completion rate) will be heavier to cover as fewer unearned trophies you get, I did the math for you, IF in this moment you want to have the same completion rate that getting those 6 bronze batman trophies you would need 12090 points (not counting plats points, thats around 12 complete trophy lists of 1000 points without plat), but if you get all the trophies of Minecraft, Zombie Army, Killer is Dead, CTR and Shaddai (Pinball and U3 are unattainable iirc)... Then getting to the same completion rate that getting those 6 bronze trophies you would need 38960 points (~39 - 1000 pts trophy lists) that is a lot XD.

[DrBloodmoney]

There’s really the only one valid motivation anyone can offer for any trophy:

Do it because you find it fun.

 If you don’t find it fun, then don’t 

 

There’s no real glory in getting some trophies that will only serve to remind you of having spent a bunch of your hard-earned free time doing something you didn’t enjoy.

(Trust me - I speak from experience!?)

 

 

I will say this on Arkham City though - if all you have left is the combat ones, then you’re already well past the difficult part, IMO.

 

I think the Predator challenges are FAR more unforgiving and tough to do than the combat ones - and the differences between the character play styles are far less pronounced.

 

Really, if you’ve done the combat ones with Batman, if won’t take much to do the same with the other characters, as they don’t feel anywhere near as different in combat as they do in Predator.

The Rhythm Game mechanics are identical, and actually, since the other characters have fewer moves, they can often feel easier in combat than Batman did.

[DeepEyes7]

4 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said:

 

I will say this on Arkham City though - if all you have left is the combat ones, then you’re already well past the difficult part, IMO.

 

I think the Predator challenges are FAR more unforgiving and tough to do than the combat ones - and the differences between the character play styles are far less pronounced.

 

Really, if you’ve done the combat ones with Batman, if won’t take much to do the same with the other characters, as they don’t feel anywhere near as different in combat as they do in Predator.

The Rhythm Game mechanics are identical, and actually, since the other characters have fewer moves, they can often feel easier in combat than Batman did.

 

I think he is missing all the trials for all the dlc chars, so the predator, combat and campaigns...

[GabrielMS13]

The combat maps are by far the easiest and most enjoyable part of DLC if you like Arkham City's combat gameplay. The most difficult one is Joker's Carnival, but if you are just going for trophies then you can skip it. Predator maps are a lot harder. Campaigns can go to hell.

 

If you strive for completion, then this is how you'll want your stat screen to look like:

 

Picture taken November 19th 2021. This is the PS3 version btw.

Edited February 19 by GabrielMS13

[AK-1138]

If you can't enjoy one of the greatest battle systems in gaming, and the theoretically endless creative alternative it affords you in achieving your goal, I don't know what to tell ya.

[Clavietka]

8 hours ago, GabrielMS13 said:

The combat maps are by far the easiest and most enjoyable part of DLC if you like Arkham City's combat gameplay. The most difficult one is Joker's Carnival, but if you are just going for trophies then you can skip it. Predator maps are a lot harder. Campaigns can go to hell.

 

If you strive for completion, then this is how you'll want your stat screen to look like:

 

Picture taken November 19th 2021. This is the PS3 version btw.

 

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9 hours ago, DeepEyes7 said:

 

I think he is missing all the trials for all the dlc chars, so the predator, combat and campaigns...

 

Hey Deep! Thank u for doing the math for me.

 

A guy found a way to manipulate U3 to give rare treasures, in case u want to go after it.

[NamoPh]

The combat challenges in this game are a joke anyway, unlike Arkham Asylum. You can destroy every gold score requirement by only using normal attacks and Bat Swarm. Don't bother trying to time counters, just jump over an enemy after every strike to cancel all enemy attacks. Bat Swarm gives you a ton of points without doing any damage to the enemies, so you'll end up way over the target without having to vary your attacks.

[Steven-Spiegel]

I envy you for the U3 teophies, I'm planning to do it someday...

 

Regarding the Arkham City DLC I don't envy you at all, I had to pass through this nightmare, the only incentive is to get another 100%, but I agree with you that the challenges of the arkham series are the worst.

 

Edit: The CTR NF times are not that hard, with a bit of practice and undertanding the mechanics are quite easy, even if you see videos with the times of the developers that are insanely harder but not needed for the platinum

Edited February 19 by Steven-Spiegel

[Clavietka]

10 hours ago, AK-1138 said:

If you can't enjoy one of the greatest battle systems in gaming, and the theoretically endless creative alternative it affords you in achieving your goal, I don't know what to tell ya.

 

I'm not saying I don't like the combat system. What I don't like is having to play the same maps dozens of times under strict rules (4 characters x 2 difficulties x 2 modes)...

38 minutes ago, Steven-Spiegel said:

I envy you for the U3 teophies, I'm planning to do it someday...

 

Regarding the Arkham City DLC I don't envy you at all, I had to pass through this nightmare, the only incentive is to get another 100%, but I agree with you that the challenges of the arkham series are the worst.

 

Edit: The CTR NF times are not that hard, with a bit of practice and undertanding the mechanics are quite easy, even if you see videos with the times of the developers that are insanely harder but not needed for the platinum

 

Thanks. The treasure hunt in U3 pre/post shutdown is an intense grind.

 

I've managed to beat Oxide's ghost on Crash Cove. Tiny Temple & Dragon Mines are the scariest for me

[NamoPh]

5 hours ago, Clavietka said:

A guy found a way to manipulate U3 to give rare treasures, in case u want to go after it.

 

What kind of way? That sounds heavily flaggable if it's external tools.

[Mellenthin]

17 hours ago, Clavietka said:

Recently I've been on a hunt to finish my backlog of semi-finished games (the backlog of 0% games is humongous, though), and I'm currently sitting at 99+ completion%.

 

Dying Light's parkour focused DLC, for example, had long alluded me, but the struggle has paid off.

 

But there are two very scary things left for me: Crash Team Racing's time trials and the combat related DLC trophies for this. The former, although hard, will at least award me with a Platinum. 

 

The combat arena stuff is EASILY the most hated stuff in this game for me, and the prospect of having to do it again 3 more times with WORSE characters is scary. FOR SIX BRONZE TROPHIES.

 

I'm no pro at math, but I have a feeling that playing some easy 100% games would be much more time efficient for my completion% than devoting my time to bring this game from 93% to 100%

 

Any tips or words of encouragement?

 

How on Earth did you manage to get this far just to be scared now??

 

Jokes aside, from experience I can tell you that it's many times a psychological issue where you partly might not be truly interested, and partly imagine the worst.

 

The games you've mentioned aren't known to be very hard, perhaps time-consuming, sure, but if you simply commit, you'll eventually get it done.?

 

16 hours ago, Clavietka said:

 

Hi. I know how to get rid of 0% games. They don't impact your completion %

 

I was just referring to my backlog of digital and physical games I havent started

 

If you don't have all of your games at 100% then you're busted - the only cure at the moment is to unlock them all. Sorry for bringing you the bad news.?

 

15 hours ago, DrBloodmoney said:

There’s really the only one valid motivation anyone can offer for any trophy:

Do it because you find it fun.

 If you don’t find it fun, then don’t 

 

There’s no real glory in getting some trophies that will only serve to remind you of having spent a bunch of your hard-earned free time doing something you didn’t enjoy.

(Trust me - I speak from experience!)

 

A pretty common response. While I suspect you mean well, yet if you think about it, how well do you perform - generally speaking - in any new game you start up? 

 

As an anecdote, well before my PS days, I spent nearly a decade playing a MMO called WWII Online - Blitzkrieg. The first time I spawned in, I could literally not orient myself, hardly differentiate between friend and foe, and, not to mention, actually aiming and firing at an actual enemy was something I wished I had recorded for all to see.

 

Long story short, I stuck with it and became one of the better player. No other game since, neither fun- or skill wise has yet to come close (to be fair, there's only so much you can accomplish with a console's hardware).

 

The bottom line is that there will always be a learning curve; for you, for me, for everyone. If everybody just layed down to die at the first sign of struggle, I'm afraid we wouldn't have this conversation.

 

As I see it, the reward usually comes after the work being put in, not the other way around. After 700+ games played, I thought you would have realized that by now.?

Edited February 19 by Mellenthin

[DrBloodmoney]

1 hour ago, Mellenthin said:

A pretty common response. While I suspect you mean well, yet if you think about it, how well do you perform - generally speaking - in any new game you start up? 

 

Lol - dude, I'm terrible at every game when I start ?

 

 

Don't get me wrong, my point wasn't that working to beat something difficult isn't fun (I'm the guy who spent 320 hours trying to get a Tetris plat I thought was impossible for me... then got it... and carried on playing Tetris... because it was still fun!)...

 

...my point was that if the OP genuinely doesn't find that part of the game fun, then putting in that effort is not going to feel particularly rewarding, even if they do get the trophies.

 

 

The fun can absolutely be found in getting beaten down repeatedly by a game...

...but getting beat down repeatedly while not having fun is a pretty poor use of a gamers free time - that could be spent playing something they enjoy more, is my point

 

Edited February 19 by DrBloodmoney

[Clavietka]

1 hour ago, NamoPh said:

 

What kind of way? That sounds heavily flaggable if it's external tools.

 

Sheesh...

 

You avance the PS3 clock three weeks.

 

Go ahead. Flag me

[melodicmizery]

17 hours ago, Clavietka said:

Recently I've been on a hunt to finish my backlog of semi-finished games (the backlog of 0% games is humongous, though), and I'm currently sitting at 99+ completion%.

 

Dying Light's parkour focused DLC, for example, had long alluded me, but the struggle has paid off.

 

But there are two very scary things left for me: Crash Team Racing's time trials and the combat related DLC trophies for this. The former, although hard, will at least award me with a Platinum. 

 

The combat arena stuff is EASILY the most hated stuff in this game for me, and the prospect of having to do it again 3 more times with WORSE characters is scary. FOR SIX BRONZE TROPHIES.

 

I'm no pro at math, but I have a feeling that playing some easy 100% games would be much more time efficient for my completion% than devoting my time to bring this game from 93% to 100%

 

Any tips or words of encouragement?

i gave up and felt the EXACT same way. after i did the story i tried the challenges and not only did i hate them but button mashing kills my hands. i felt so miserable i decided to just give up and that 60% or whatever it was is better then the 1% i had before. for me i been looking at completion a different way, at first i didnt care at all about it but now that i do out of boredom i look at it as it doesnt need to be 100% it just needs to be what i personally can do and that im not going to be as good as everyone else or maybe as dedicated and thats ok. same with aliens vs predator i did all that work on everything putting many hours into trying to get the online to connect and when it came to nightmare mode i tapped out and said 90% is good enough

[Mellenthin]

21 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said:

 

Lol - dude, I'm terrible at every game when I start 

 

 

Don't get me wrong, my point wasn't that working to beat something difficult isn't fun (I'm the guy who spent 320 hours trying to get a Tetris plat I thought was impossible for me... then got it... and carried on playing Tetris... because it was still fun!)...

 

...my point was that if the OP genuinely doesn't find that part of the game fun, then putting in that effort is not going to feel particularly rewarding, even if they do get the trophies.

 

 

The fun can absolutely be found in getting beaten down repeatedly by a game...

...but getting beat down repeatedly while not having fun is a pretty poor use of a gamers free time - that could be spent playing something they enjoy more, is my point,

 

 

Oh, so you finished Tetris? Hats off for that.☺️

 

I've always admired people for these type of games. No backstory, no fancy graphics or dialogue to enhance the experience - simply suffering through defeat after defeat until finally succeeding. Personally, I crave all the previously mentioned if I'm to make it through something painful, but then again, I'm the sensitive type.?

 

In my opinion, if you're adamant to finish something, you must be willing to risk breaking - only then you'll know your limit. But, I have to acknowledge your last paragraph.?

Edited February 19 by Mellenthin

[Clavietka]

8 minutes ago, melodicmizery said:

i gave up and felt the EXACT same way. after i did the story i tried the challenges and not only did i hate them but button mashing kills my hands. i felt so miserable i decided to just give up and that 60% or whatever it was is better then the 1% i had before. for me i been looking at completion a different way, at first i didnt care at all about it but now that i do out of boredom i look at it as it doesnt need to be 100% it just needs to be what i personally can do and that im not going to be as good as everyone else or maybe as dedicated and thats ok. same with aliens vs predator i did all that work on everything putting many hours into trying to get the online to connect and when it came to nightmare mode i tapped out and said 90% is good enough

 

I totally understand you, but my OCD doesn't, lol. But I can already assure you that I find no fun at all on AC's challenges, and my hands also hurt - the game is superb otherwise. The "perfect freeflow volume 2" almost broke me.

 

But there is indeed a pleasure of getting things done. For years, the parkour dlc for Dying Light scared me. And I tried back then and couldnt finish a single one. I felt the sudden itch to complete it, reinstalled the game and was done in less than a week (6/10 challenges were done on a single afternoon)

[Xillynoc]

Here was my motivation when I went and got all the DLC trophies: spite, pure and simple. The Arkham games' combat formula does not hold up under duress (using the same moves over and over in the combat challenges), and that holds especially true for the DLC characters, so I got through Catwoman, Robin, and Nightwing fueled by dev hatred and nothing else. Thankfully, Nightwing is the "easiest" of the three combat-wise, but they're all ridiculous to some degree for the predator challenges and campaigns - my advice would be to make heavy use of the challenge walkthrough videos posted by Batman Arkham Videos, as they're the only way I got through all this bullshit, and mentally fortify yourself if you wanna tackle this.

[sk_lp_him]

39 minutes ago, melodicmizery said:

i gave up and felt the EXACT same way. after i did the story i tried the challenges and not only did i hate them but button mashing kills my hands. i felt so miserable i decided to just give up and that 60% or whatever it was is better then the 1% i had before. for me i been looking at completion a different way, at first i didnt care at all about it but now that i do out of boredom i look at it as it doesnt need to be 100% it just needs to be what i personally can do and that im not going to be as good as everyone else or maybe as dedicated and thats ok. same with aliens vs predator i did all that work on everything putting many hours into trying to get the online to connect and when it came to nightmare mode i tapped out and said 90% is good enough

 

Button mashing is your first and biggest mistake. You won't force your way to victory by button mashing. Once you learn the system it gets really rewarding.

 

1 minute ago, Xillynoc said:

Here was my motivation when I went and got all the DLC trophies: spite, pure and simple. The Arkham games' combat formula does not hold up under duress (using the same moves over and over in the combat challenges), and that holds especially true for the DLC characters, so I got through Catwoman, Robin, and Nightwing fueled by dev hatred and nothing else. Thankfully, Nightwing is the "easiest" of the three combat-wise, but they're all ridiculous to some degree for the predator challenges and campaigns - my advice would be to make heavy use of the challenge walkthrough videos posted by Batman Arkham Videos, as they're the only way I got through all this bullshit, and mentally fortify yourself if you wanna tackle this.

 

I wouldn't recommend BAV lol. His methods are godly tier. There are enough smaller but more doable video guides for normal players.

[Xillynoc]

7 minutes ago, sk_lp_him said:

I wouldn't recommend BAV lol. His methods are godly tier. There are enough smaller but more doable video guides for normal players.

I mean, I managed to follow his methods well enough (with some improvising where necessary) and I'm pretty normie as far as skill level goes, so...

[DeepEyes7]

11 hours ago, Clavietka said:

 

 

Hey Deep! Thank u for doing the math for me.

 

A guy found a way to manipulate U3 to give rare treasures, in case u want to go after it.

 

I could be interested, tell me more...

[veinte-justo]

20 hours ago, DeepEyes7 said:

Because that 100% looks cooler, remember all our suffering getting U3 trophies after closure server and how you went and get the treasure trophy after all that grinding, you won't be defeated by some batman trials, YOU CAN DO IT!

 

P.S. The weight of those 6 bronze trophies (in the completion rate) will be heavier to cover as fewer unearned trophies you get, I did the math for you, IF in this moment you want to have the same completion rate that getting those 6 bronze batman trophies you would need 12090 points (not counting plats points, thats around 12 complete trophy lists of 1000 points without plat), but if you get all the trophies of Minecraft, Zombie Army, Killer is Dead, CTR and Shaddai (Pinball and U3 are unattainable iirc)... Then getting to the same completion rate that getting those 6 bronze trophies you would need 38960 points (~39 - 1000 pts trophy lists) that is a lot XD.

 

Wait a sec. there was/is a way to get the remaining U3 DLC trophies even after servers were disconnected?