Popular Post DarkStarSquall Posted February 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) Hey guys and girls EDIT 27.02.23 Seems like they brought out a patch just now. If it works it´s a win. There are probably some spoilers here. Be Careful! i just got the platin of this game and i got some mixed feelings about this. First thing is, i am not an og gamer of this game. I grew up with FF7 to 9 and never heard about this before but a friend of mine recommended it to me because it is a classic JRPG and he kinda knew my preferences. Just telling this because it doesn´t matter if you are a newcomer or not to this game. You will get the plat. State of the game right now is that it is freezing a soon as you use certain magic or my favourite, if the enemy is using magic, namely Spoiler Zieg There are only 3 missable trophies and these are: Extinguish the Spirit of Feyrbrand Extinguish the Spirit of Regole Extinguish the Spirit of the Divine Dragon -these are some optional Bosses you have to do before entering the divine tree Have a Blast at the Carnival - Play some carnival games - I am not sure about this one. You can do this after you met Haschel and did the tournament. Is it missable? Wish upon a Star -collect 30 Stardust - This one might look like a missable trophy but it is not The rest of the trophies will be obtained by just playing through the game. Including Rags to Riches STARDUST There are 50 stardusts in total in the game and you don´t have to collect all for any trophy. Still the rewards are very nice especially the one you get first for 10 Stardust. (You´ll get a reward every 10 stardusts) The physical Ring will boost your HP and make one of your characters very tanky at the start. The GAMEFAQs guide is still holding up pretty well and will guide you to platin if you want it step by step. I used the guide very late because there´s not much to miss, so i used the Fandom Wiki most of the time. OPTIONAL BOSSES This game has more than these 3 dragons as extra bosses but the game doesn´t want you to slay them all for trophies, so yay? To be honest i cannot give you a guide to kill the dragons but i can tell you that leveling a bit before these will help to kill them and make the end of the game a cakewalk. I didn´t know these guys were missable so i finished the game first, reloaded a save and started to do a couple levels. So where are they? Well, you cannot miss these cute little dragons but you can skip them. Hence the name optional, i guess. They are in the Death City Mayfil and this is also almost the point of no return at the end of CD4. Be warned at the end of Mayfil there is a boss named Zackwell and as soon as you kill him, the dragons will vanish. I don´t know why they did this because after Zackwell you can still backtrack to almost everwhere but, whatever. I say this: Feyrbrand and Regole are not a threat, if you have problem with these, don´t try Divine Dragon Divine Dragon does a lot of damage 2k+ AoE Fill your inventory with healing breeze use your damage items if they are stronger than your attack (Try and rewind if needed) Transform max. 2 Dragoons because you´ll need one guy to spam heal items I chipped Divine Dragon in about 90 minutes of trial and error with bad preparation at lvl 33. You can do better if you prepare, trust me. MISCELLANEOUS So this is the order of Ch4/CD4 with some notes Death Frontier Spring Breath Town Ulara Outland Village Rouge Magical City Aglis - IMPORTANT SEE BELOW! Law City Zenebatos Death City Mayfil - the optional dragons for the trophies Divine Tree - as soon as you enter, there is no way back ??? Why is the Magical City Aglis important you might ask. There is a challange you have to do to continue the story and if you give the right answers you´ll get an awesome item. Every Dragoon has to give an answer and the right answers are: Spoiler • Kongol -> "Take Doel's sword." • Miranda -> [Answer doesn't matter] & "I cannot die now." • Albert -> "I...cannot do that." • Meru -> "I still cannot die!" • Haschel -> "I couldn't stop her." • Rose -> She doesn't have a choice to make." • Dart -> "I will save Shana no matter what!" thx to gamefaqs again If you did everything right, you will get Psyche Bomb X a couple screens later. If it is only Psyche Bomb rewind and try again. This item does AoE(no element) damage and will make leveling characters a breeze AND it is reusable (once per battle) Sidenote: Item damage is calculated by the Magic Attack stat of a character so use your items wisely. Magic Freeze Bug (26.02.2023 PS4/PS5) Let´s talk about this little party pooper. Most, but not all magic(in Dragoon state) will soft lock your game You can try to figure out which one is working and which is not but i skipped the magic the entire game (more grind and items did the trick for me) BIG PROBLEM: The Endboss(Zieg) is using Dragoon Magic too and this will also freeze your game Here is how i did it: Rewind is your best friend here give the game time to breath or it will crash like mine Zieg is programmed to use his first Magic as soon as Dart attacks (Easy fix: Dart is healing or defending) The AI will always do the same, if you are doing the same Example Albert - Perfect Gust of Wind Dance Zieg - Magic -> game freeze REWIND Albert - Perfect Gust of Wind Dance Zieg - Magic -> game freeze AGAIN REWIND Albert - Imperfect Gust of Wind Dance (one missed input) Zieg - Single target move on Haschel Continue until Zieg uses magic again and rewind with another attack, heal, defend I hope you get the point. By the way this works for every encounter in the game. The AI changes depended on your actions. Try to use this to bait out attacks. I did it with the Divine Dragon as well. Another Sidenote: If your character misses the target, there is no need for rewind. It won´t work. They will always miss. Sometimes enemies are in a evasion state where they just can´t get hit. Indicator for this is a certain camera position and the fact that they can´t get hit.(...I´ll revisit this in the future, maybe) Use this to heal or defend. This Thread is probably for people who are desperate as me to finish this game and don´t want to wait for a patch. (if there will ever be one) One last thing: If an item states repeatable, it means you can use this once per battle without losing the item. Keep an eye out for these. Wish someone told me that earlier... No, there is no Cross-Save... I really liked the game, characters (except Miranda) and story. Some of the mechanics didn´t age well but i can understand why people call it their favourite. Even if the JRPG scene still feels a bit niche. Guess i´ll replay for the double platin as soon we get a patch or when i am bored enough to start the grind again. Have Fun Edited February 27, 2023 by DarkStarSquall 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And98s Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Why don't you guys just wait for a fix instead of having a miserable experience with the game? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStarSquall Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, And98s said: Why don't you guys just wait for a fix instead of having a miserable experience with the game? Who said i had a miserable experience? Unlike many trophy hunter, it was the first time for me playing the game. I didn´t know about the bug until i was at the point of getting magic. It is like stop reading a book midway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, And98s said: Why don't you guys just wait for a fix instead of having a miserable experience with the game? Not everyone is having a "miserable experience" I had a finicky disc and even on emulation this game never worked properly so I never cared much for the spells and the additions always seemed more fun, plus there's no guarantee the game will ever be patched, just wait yourself and let others have fun when they want, people love the arm twisting and tell others how to have fun, getting tired of this. 13 hours ago, DarkStarSquall said: @DarkStarSquall Thank you very much for the hints, I'm at the last boss and even defeated Faust and the Legendary Dragoons, funny enough their magic never froze anything for me, this game was always finicky even on emulation so it's no surprise really, but never this bad ofc, I'm one of the few who is having a good time with it despite the whole thing with spells....but I never really cared for them tbh, hope to see a patch when I play the PS5 version in the future...if there's one. Edited February 27, 2023 by Sunnyburrito 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayato_VJ Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I just got platinum a few hours ago. I have the original physical PS1 game from 2001 and still remembered quite a few things. Without using magic and using massive rewind it is possible to get platinum, but it is not the best way. For all of you who have never played it before, you'd better wait for Sony to come up with a solution or ask for a refund. It is not the correct way to treat a classic of your legacy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I still remember my "No Materia" run on FF7 back in the day (which actually in the end seemed far easier and quicker too) I also wondered if a no Dragoon magic run was possible on this game, I guess for most of us, the perfect opportunity for us to try. lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryuzakix5 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, enaysoft said: I still remember my "No Materia" run on FF7 back in the day (which actually in the end seemed far easier and quicker too) I also wondered if a no Dragoon magic run was possible on this game, I guess for most of us, the perfect opportunity for us to try. lol I've always finished TLoD without using any magic because my original copy had this same issue, you just need to use Power Boost + Power Down + Speed Up + Speed Down + Psyche Bomb X and any other attack item with Miranda while beating the boss with Albert/Haschel and you'll deal 6k-9k to every boss after Aglis except for the final boss. Before the fourth disc you can use Magic items with Shana/Miranda against bosses. Items are OP if you can manage to get 240-250% every time. Dragoon Magic freeze gave birth to two stars, Shana and Miranda. Edited February 27, 2023 by ryuzakix5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merendero23 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 20 hours ago, DarkStarSquall said: Who said i had a miserable experience? Unlike many trophy hunter, it was the first time for me playing the game. I didn´t know about the bug until i was at the point of getting magic. It is like stop reading a book midway. It's like having a Ferrari but you can use it up to fourth gear if you use fifth or sixth it breaks lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStarSquall Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 4 hours ago, ryuzakix5 said: I've always finished TLoD without using any magic because my original copy had this same issue, you just need to use Power Boost + Power Down + Speed Up + Speed Down + Psyche Bomb X and any other attack item with Miranda while beating the boss with Albert/Haschel and you'll deal 6k-9k to every boss after Aglis except for the final boss. Before the fourth disc you can use Magic items with Shana/Miranda against bosses. Items are OP if you can manage to get 240-250% every time. Dragoon Magic freeze gave birth to two stars, Shana and Miranda. I wish i had your insight of this game when i played it for the first time. Never used Shana or Miranda. Good to know for future runs. ? 4 hours ago, merendero23 said: It's like having a Ferrari but you can use it up to fourth gear if you use fifth or sixth it breaks lol We talk about a 10 bucks game, not a car. Calm down. I had my fair share of fun while playing it so this thread is not about complaining or criticizing like some people might think. Just a point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenzeldale Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 On 26.2.2023 at 5:33 PM, DarkStarSquall said: Have a Blast at the Carnival - Play some carnival games - I am not sure about this one. You can do this after you met Haschel and did the tournament. Is it missable? It is just important that you play at least 3 (different?) games. I tested it: I played one game, left the area, got the Haschel trophy, wenn out of the town to make sure. Then wenn back into the City and played 2 other games. Then I got the trophy. So I think you could still obtain this way later in the game. On 26.2.2023 at 5:33 PM, DarkStarSquall said: Wish upon a Star -collect 30 Stardust - This one might look like a missable trophy but it is not Any stardust is always abailable until you enter the divine tree, so it is just important to keep a save before that event 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alayaes Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 On 2/26/2023 at 11:55 AM, And98s said: Why don't you guys just wait for a fix instead of having a miserable experience with the game? I don't get the backlash you got for this genuine question. It's obvious that the game is in limp mode while broken, yet people have trouble summoning the patience to wait just a week or so for it to get fixed. I'm not sure how a game can be fun when you can't use a major portion of the game while constantly having to rewind the final boss in hopes of him using a regular attack but to each their own. People that say they had plenty of fun with it also are the ones to complain about the issues that supposedly didn't impede on their fun, so there's that. I'm glad I waited for a fix. This is one of my favorite games from when I was a child in the 90s and I didn't want to compromise a fun, nostalgic rerun due to impatience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStarSquall Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alayaes said: I don't get the backlash you got for this genuine question. It's obvious that the game is in limp mode while broken, yet people have trouble summoning the patience to wait just a week or so for it to get fixed. I'm not sure how a game can be fun when you can't use a major portion of the game while constantly having to rewind the final boss in hopes of him using a regular attack but to each their own. People that say they had plenty of fun with it also are the ones to complain about the issues that supposedly didn't impede on their fun, so there's that. I'm glad I waited for a fix. This is one of my favorite games from when I was a child in the 90s and I didn't want to compromise a fun, nostalgic rerun due to impatience. You are all talking about the gameplay perspective. I don´t know why you guys are so adamant about criticizing other preferences or playstyles. Time is valuable for most of us and i enjoyed the game AND the story, even with this bug. I can stress it again: it was my first time playing this classic and i really liked it. Now i am happy to go back and play it again how its meant to be played. Stay frosty :3 Edited March 1, 2023 by DarkStarSquall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alayaes Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 15 hours ago, DarkStarSquall said: You are all talking about the gameplay perspective. I don´t know why you guys are so adamant about criticizing other preferences or playstyles. Time is valuable for most of us and i enjoyed the game AND the story, even with this bug. I can stress it again: it was my first time playing this classic and i really liked it. Now i am happy to go back and play it again how its meant to be played. Stay frosty :3 I would wager that addressing the gameplay perspective of a video game is a pretty valid angle. The gameplay perspective was heavily, heavily impacted by the glitches. Not just a few graphical glitches, but flat-out missing out on the main feature of the game. Legend of Dragoon or Legend of Rewind/AdditionsOnlyChallengeRun? If you just wanted the story, you could watch someone else play it on YouTube I suppose. Then when you look at the thread about the glitch, it's obvious that it's very aggravating to some people while they slog and grind through the game because they can't manage to wait for a fix. It's just a shame in my opinion that you'd tarnish the playthrough in lieu of impatience. The "criticism" given to this is incredibly mild and quite genuine. Don't over-dramatize it by pretending people are somehow compromising other people's personal enjoyment. Some of us just open dialogue in regard to trying to understand certain actions, especially when said people have clearly vented in a way that indicates they were not having fun at all. Critically examining behavior is perfectly fine and part of life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masamune_Riku Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Does spending Stardust (first 25) take away the total gotten, so gotta find 30 after that? Or am I able to spend them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boni_Neto Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, Masamune_Riku said: Does spending Stardust (first 25) take away the total gotten, so gotta find 30 after that? Or am I able to spend them? No, you can spend 25 and then get 5 more and the trophy will pop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStarSquall Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 The game is patched now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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