Popular Post Parker Posted December 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2014 It has taken a really damn long time, but Heists are finally coming. To say we've waited a long time for multiplayer Heists to get added into Grand Theft Auto Online would be the understatement of the year. The bad news is that we still don't have a concrete date for when it's finally happening. The good news, however, is that we do now have a killer trailer showing them off as well as an interview with GTA Online producer and lead mission designer Imran Sarwar, who was kind enough to answer our (many) questions about this high-concept feature. "Funny, he told me the same thing..." IGN: The big question, of course, is why has it taken so long for Heists to come together? IMRAN: To be honest, they just turned out to be a lot more difficult than we originally thought. Our initial idea was to build on the concept of Story Mode heists to make a new gameplay experience for GTA Online that was more focused on cooperation, where everyone could play to their individual strengths and feel like they had a stake in the outcome. Looks like we're breaking a buddy out of the slammer before he even gets there. So we started working on the concept: a series of multi-tiered missions featuring diverse prep work, a range of different types of gameplay and a big finale, where team coordination and playing your own distinct role could make the difference between success or failure. We also wanted each one to have a unique thread that brought you back in touch with some of the characters from the story. “ After many months of designing, testing, rewriting and re-testing, we settled on the four-player structure that you will experience in the game. It took a ton of work from our programmers and mission designers to make it work at the level we were happy with. As it turns out, creating missions of that complexity for multiple players at the same time was much more difficult than we anticipated and every time we thought we were close, something would send us back to square one. Having already let players know of our intentions with Heists, every setback only increased the pressure to make sure we got them right. One of the challenges is that unlike a heist in Story Mode, every player needs to feel central to the action at all times, and that’s much more challenging than it appears. "Doot doo doo, don't mind us. Just collecting the garbage..." A good example is the classic idea of your getaway driver, waiting outside of a bank for the big score. A movie might not spend too much time focusing on that person because while they are waiting, we are watching the action going down in the vault. In a similar situation in Story Mode, we could use a character switch to make sure the player was always in the center of the action and switch back to the driver later. But to make this work for multiple players, we needed to create situations where the driver has something interesting to do at exactly the same time the rest of their team are locking down the bank and making their way to the money. After many months of designing, testing, rewriting and re-testing, we settled on the four-player structure that you will experience in the game. It took a ton of work from our programmers and mission designers to make it work at the level we were happy with. Wait...aircraft carriers?? Even as we were working to solve this, the entire team was also throwing everything we could into creating the PS4, Xbox One, and PC versions of Grand Theft Auto V – adding First Person Mode, building the new replay editor for PC – as well as constantly working to improve the GTA Online experience. All of these projects are linked and require the attention of our core team at all times, so despite our best efforts, we simply wound up needing more time to make sure every one of these projects was as good as it could possibly be. “ Heists will be ready early in 2015. We never want to have to move a date but if something is delayed, it’s because it’s not at the level we expect of ourselves. And while we’re not there yet, we’re getting close and Heists will be ready early in 2015. "Tango down." IGN: How does a heist work exactly? IMRAN: Each heist requires 4 players all at rank 12 or above, with one player as the designated heist leader. Leading a heist requires owning a high-end apartment so that you have a room available to set up the planning board. From there you’ll be able to launch missions as the leader, starting with the prep work and building up to the score itself. Being a heist leader has advantages and disadvantages. On the upside, Lester contacts the leader directly when there’s news of a job and it’s up to the leader to invite players into the crew, assign positions, pick outfits and allocate each player’s cut. On the other hand, the heist leader will need to personally front the set-up costs in order to successfully pull off the heist. "Let's hurry up, Bill. The sweat is making my paper bag stick to my head." “ Switching between the roles of crew member and heist leader will give players a totally different experience... Unlike the leader, other crew members get a cash payout for each prep mission, while the leader won’t receive their cash until the finale is complete. Switching between the roles of crew member and heist leader will give players a totally different experience, and we had to make sure there were real incentives to playing each position so that players would see every aspect of how a heist comes together and not just want to stick to the same role each time. Some missions have all players working as one unit, some require players to take on specific tasks like hacking or crowd control, while others require players to split into smaller teams to complete separate high value objectives. For example, one team may be stealing a getaway car from some gangsters while another team is attempting to sneak into a police station, all within the same prep mission. We really want to push the co-op aspect and make players feel like they need to communicate effectively and work together to pull off each element. "Hey, are we locked in here?" Each finale is a big set-piece mission with players taking on multiple roles. All through this, players will be gaining access to new vehicles, new weapons, new items and new clothing, as well as visiting some surprising locations and interacting with some familiar characters from the story. IGN: Given the time between the original announcement of Heists and today, I'd suspect that they have changed a lot in that time. Is that the case? IMRAN: Definitely. And they had to. It took several passes from scratch before we settled on the design we have now. Prep and set-up missions in Story Mode could be relatively low-key affairs, but with four players and an emphasis on replayability we felt like we needed to make these as diverse and as fun as possible. This required a totally new way of testing as we formed into teams and played and replayed a huge range of scenarios in order to make sure the balance and timing of each section felt right. "Could we, uh, get away faster in our getaway car?" “ Some missions have all players working as one unit, some require players to take on specific tasks like hacking or crowd control, while others require players to split into smaller teams to complete separate high value objectives. Another thing that’s changed since the beginning was how we integrated each player into the mission objectives. The DNA for Heists goes as far back as some of our favourite Vice City missions, but there have been standout missions through San Andreas and of course Grand Theft Auto IV and V that inspired us. However, those were all single player missions, and our initial attempts at Heists turned out to be a lot of fun for one or two players while other players were getting left on the sidelines. The more we developed and really pushed the concept, the more we worked to make each of the four players feel integral to the mission. It meant rethinking absolutely everything – and rebuilding it from the ground up on several occasions – but it also massively improved each mission’s replayability as you have the chance to go back and switch roles to experience completely different sides of the same mission. We also added trip-skips to allow players to skip longer drives if they have already played the mission as well as carefully balancing checkpoints, with a range of difficulty levels to give players of all skill levels a real challenge. We have also tried to add player choice wherever possible, from the clothing to the tactics involved and so on. "Dude, did you wash these masks after last time?" IGN: How many Heists will you launch with? IMRAN: There are five unique strands involving over 20 total missions, which will add up to around 20 hours of gameplay. We hope players will then replay them multiple times to take on the other roles and to try different ways of tackling the missions. We’ve tried to add a lot of variety and there’s a mixture of open-ended gameplay, big set-pieces and a few surprises too. “ There are five unique strands involving over 20 total missions, which will add up to around 20 hours of gameplay. We have several rewards for players as well, such as for playing all five heists in order with the same set of players and another bonus for playing all of them in first-person [mode] on PS4, Xbox One, or PC, as well as Elite Bonus Challenges, which are essentially a big cash reward if you complete each part of a heist while meeting certain criteria, such as time to complete, damage taken, accuracy etc. They don't even have to change outfits in order to make meth when they get home! IGN: Can you give a blow-by-blow example of your favorite Heist that's in the game right now? IMRAN: I don’t want to spoil a whole heist, but a favourite would be the finale of an epic prison break where players come from different points on the map to join together at just the right time. It requires a pilot, a demolitions expert, and some undercover work to pull it off, and it takes real teamwork, the ability to think fast and a lot of communication to put all the pieces in place to extract the target flawlessly. It’s also a heist that isn’t just about stealing money, and it is definitely not about going in all guns blazing. IGN: So what’s next? IMRAN: Right now we just want to get Heists out there and get real world feedback before we look too far ahead. Reaching this point has obviously taken much longer than we ever thought it would and we know we have a lot to live up to, but we’re looking forward to finally being able to share them with other players soon. "Do you have any idea who you're stealing from?" We rob hard, we play hard. Slipping away from the authorities. Another look at that breaking-your-buddy-out-of-jail-before-he-gets-there. Speeding violations get taken REALLY seriously by the police these days. Sun's out gun's out. And you thought the Army of Two franchise was dead... Lester will help you get your Heists set up. Ah yes, the cool-person walk away from the camera after the heist is over. Hmm, what are they shooting at here? Source: IGN This is going to be awesome. I've held off on GTA Online for a while (mostly because I was waiting for the PS4 version) but I'll definitely be diving in now. Hopefully now that Rockstar has completed heists (for the most part) they'll be able to work on all the trophy issues plaguing the PS4 version of the game. Parker 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuTangJase- Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) If you told me on the release date that 'heists wouldn't come to gta online until about a year and a half from now' I would not have believed you. What the actual fuck lol. So random. Im actually looking forward to the dlc they have planned for the next 3-4 years. My interest decreased dramatically. Ended up getting rid of the game with the ps3. I might try to get it in a ps4 bundle. Edit: Just read a youtube comment by cosmo6871 and thought it made sense. I like how Rockstar acknowledges the fact that this is long overdue. "I know you've been complaining..." Edited December 16, 2014 by Marvel-J-375 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Exciting news, looking forward to it. Curious if they'll add trophies and what they'll be like. (Probably similar to RDR coop missions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotakibono Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well, this looks like it might be well worth the wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigma999 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Are the Heists coming for all platforms or only next-gen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrickenBiged Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Finally... I'm looking forward to these. Looks like I'll need to buy an apartment now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LianshiSaonji Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 A year after? Got the game day one and sold it long ago after reaching rank 112-ish.Heists are the main point of me buying this game, but eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damon8r351 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Next time, on "It Must've Happened": "Sir, Sony has announced a new next-gen console." "Alright, pull everyone off the Heists and single-player DLC teams and put them to work on a port to the new system." "Sir, won't that annoy our customer base?" "Pssh, they won't notice." *18 months later...* "Oh shit, turns out they were really pissed about that! Feed them a line of bullshit about Heists being more difficult than planned to throw them off the scent." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STFUxDxD Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well shit, I don't even have this game anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annare_ Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 if it's a free update I'll gladly try it, if not I'll only get it if it comes with trophies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Kiba Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 If this had come when I was still interested in GTA online then maybe I would be excited for it but I've lost alll interest in the online portion of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pPpPancakes Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Are the Heists coming for all platforms or only next-gen? Every platform. http://www.ibtimes.com/rockstar-gta-5-online-receive-heists-very-soon-xbox-one-ps4-ps3-xbox-360-1723963 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BhekifaZ Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well hopefully I can exploit something for money and RP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuTangJase- Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Well hopefully I can exploit something for money and RP. Lol thats what I was hoping. Not really willing to buy those shark cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAZINGA0802 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Next time, on "It Must've Happened": "Sir, Sony has announced a new next-gen console." "Alright, pull everyone off the Heists and single-player DLC teams and put them to work on a port to the new system." "Sir, won't that annoy our customer base?" "Pssh, they won't notice." *18 months later...* "Oh shit, turns out they were really pissed about that! Feed them a line of bullshit about Heists being more difficult than planned to throw them off the scent." do you seriously think they only find out about new consoles when they announce them to the public!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xxleonardo97xX Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) 1 year and 2 months later. Edited December 16, 2014 by Xxleonardo97xX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovejinder_LJ Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Next time, on "It Must've Happened": "Sir, Sony has announced a new next-gen console." "Alright, pull everyone off the Heists and single-player DLC teams and put them to work on a port to the new system." "Sir, won't that annoy our customer base?" "Pssh, they won't notice." *18 months later...* "Oh shit, turns out they were really pissed about that! Feed them a line of bullshit about Heists being more difficult than planned to throw them off the scent." It's very easy to get pissed off on R* for things like that. Seeing the amount of variety in the heists, I get why it took so much time & glad it's coming out soon. My theory; Looks like they didn't simply want to release 2-3 heists and add some later but make most of them at once and then release it to people so they have a lot of options and can really enjoy it. Go R* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulzyc Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 i hope it come with trophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkyJay86 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 This might literally be one of the few games where I wouldn't mind a DLC for. Make something out of the ordinary considering it's rockstar and obviously GTA to go along with the "heists". I hate to say free, but a free storyline style type content plus these heists would be right up my alley as a nice DLC to make up for whatever inconveniences these games had for anyone from launch til now. Oh and add some trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar83x Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Every platform. http://www.ibtimes.com/rockstar-gta-5-online-receive-heists-very-soon-xbox-one-ps4-ps3-xbox-360-1723963 Yeah. Hoping the old gen heists aren't watered down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WasResting Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Its about time. Like most I've stopped playing until the heists arrive. Can't wait to get that plat. All I need is lvl 100 and 30 platinums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damon8r351 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) do you seriously think they only find out about new consoles when they announce them to the public!? Nope, there you go "assuming". Obviously at some point, Sony puts out a mass email to all the software companies telling them to get their next-gen shit together. Or by phone call. Or fax. Or mimeograph. Or however Sony puts out that info. I'm voting on telegraph myself. Edited December 16, 2014 by damon8r351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_J_Machine Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hi all, i'm on the east coast of Australia & will be looking for some people to crew up with to get stuck into not just these heists, but the game in general, if anyone's interested feel free to add me on PSN - The_J_Machine. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idonteatfood Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Lol thats what I was hoping. Not really willing to buy those shark cards. Take-Two (the parent company who owns Rockstar Games Affiliate) said in a company board meeting that they will not go into the DLC model that other interactive game companies are taking through. They stated that making customers pay for DLC's will actually incur massive profit growth in the long run and stun the consumer base (or in another word, "charging people for DLC = Game Dead in the short & long run"). So All GTA V Online 'DLC' (upcoming as well) are free because they want more fans to know how much they care about their product and the company's image as well. They seemed to be doing very well; especially the profit gained from online money and game sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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