sephirothdude Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 So is this worth getting or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boooda Posted February 2, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2015 So is this worth getting or what? From what I've seen this seems to be your run of the mill dungeon crawling JRPG. Pretty tame combat system but its main selling point seems to be these "Punishment" scenes you can perform on the girls. Kinda like the rubbing mini game in Monster Monpiece. However NIS America has gone and censored the game for western release isolating most of the niche demographic that were actually planning to get the game in the first place. Trophy wise it doesn't seem to bad but I can't really comment on the story/characters since I haven't played it myself. Part of me wants to get it because I enjoy these niche jrpgs but part of me wants NIS to fuck off with their censoring of games, so I'll probably hold out for a sale or price drop. Theres a decent amount of youtube videos, albeit few in english, if you want to check out gameplay and opinions. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPieti Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Part of me wants to get it because I enjoy these niche jrpgs but part of me wants NIS to fuck off with their censoring of games, so I'll probably hold out for a sale or price drop. Keep in mind it's not primarily NISA's fault. They were pretty much 'forced' (albeit I'm using that loosely) to censor it. The extent to which it's their fault is the extent to which they chose not to fight it; I doubt they wanted to go out of their way to tone down certain scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavergray Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) It has always seemed kind of weird to me how some people act when games like this are censored during localization. Even thought the things that had to censor were very small (they added some more fog and removed the sounds the girls make during the Motivation minigame.) people always act like the game is ruined. If they hadn't done those small things the game would have gotten an AO rating which is near unsaleable in the US. Sure it sucks the game had to be censored, but when people act like this it stops the few game companies who would even try to release games like this outside of japan from doing so. As for if the game is good or not, from what I've seen of the gameplay it looks like a really generic dungeon crawling JRPG, but I hear the story's pretty good. So if a dungeon crawling JRPG with a good story is what you're looking for maybe you should get this. Edited February 2, 2015 by soultaker655 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Solely depends on your stance to the mentioned mini-game =) That's is the main selling point or the main point why to avoid purchase =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarciaFever Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Didn't NIS America also tone down some of the previous games that they localized, such as Mugen Souls, as well as (I think they are the ones who localized this game, not 100% sure) Record of Agarest War from a few years back? Edited February 3, 2015 by GarciaFever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooneJusticius Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Didn't NIS America also tone down some of the previous games that they localized, such as Mugen Souls, as well as (I think they are the ones who localized this game, not 100% sure) Record of Agarest War from a few years back? Yeah, I know they toned down Mugen Souls from what I've read. I think Aksys is the company that's done the localizations for the Record of Agarest War games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boooda Posted February 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) It has always seemed kind of weird to me how some people act when games like this are censored during localization. Even thought the things that had to censor were very small (they added some more fog and removed the sounds the girls make during the Motivation minigame.) people always act like the game is ruined. If they hadn't done those small things the game would have gotten an AO rating which is near unsaleable in the US. Sure it sucks the game had to be censored, but when people act like this it stops the few game companies who would even try to release games like this outside of japan from doing so. I understand where you're coming from, and i'm definitely not as bothered by the censorship as others, but what does bother me is that of all mediums in the entertainment industry, its video games that need to be censored. Even more so, japanese games. You will see a hell of a lot worse in GTA than you will in Criminal Girls or Monster Monpiece, etc, but these western games get a free pass. It almost seems unnecessary to censor it at all, as you pointed out its strictly a tiny bit more "fog" and they removed the sounds the girls made. Idk, it grinds my gears that video games, an art, have to be censored in any way shape or form. The people who make these games know who their market is, and NIS do aswell...so why censor? NIS aren't all bad though, they've definitely played a huge part in the localization of a lot of my favorite jrpgs...they just make some questionable decisions. /rant Didn't NIS America also tone down some of the previous games that they localized, such as Mugen Souls, as well as (I think they are the ones who localized this game, not 100% sure) Record of Agarest War from a few years back? Yeah I believe they did Mugen Souls, they also censored some stuff in Monster Monpiece, but I can't think of many other games off the top of my head. Edited February 3, 2015 by Boooda 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryumoau Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 gamefly shipped this game to me today, so i should hopefully be receiving it in the mail by wednesday. This isn't the kind of game i would buy but i;m curious enough to play it as a rental. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D-Tron Posted February 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2015 It has always seemed kind of weird to me how some people act when games like this are censored during localization. Even thought the things that had to censor were very small (they added some more fog and removed the sounds the girls make during the Motivation minigame.) people always act like the game is ruined. If they hadn't done those small things the game would have gotten an AO rating which is near unsaleable in the US. Sure it sucks the game had to be censored, but when people act like this it stops the few game companies who would even try to release games like this outside of japan from doing so. That's not necessarily true. Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus might have more sexual content in it and Xseed brought that over uncensored and got away with an M rating. I think the better thing NIS should've done was to submit it uncensored to the ESRB. If it got an AO rating, They could've pulled it back, censor it and then re submit it to get away with the M rating. I understand where you're coming from, and i'm definitely not as bothered by the censorship as others, but what does bother me is that of all mediums in the entertainment industry, its video games that need to be censored. Even more so, japanese games. You will see a hell of a lot worse in GTA than you will in Criminal Girls or Monster Monpiece, etc, but these western games get a free pass. It almost seems unnecessary to censor it at all, as you pointed out its strictly a tiny bit more "fog" and they removed the sounds the girls made. Idk, it grinds my gears that video games, an art, have to be censored in any way shape or form. The people who make these games know who their market is, and NIS do aswell...so why censor? NIS aren't all bad though, they've definitely played a huge part in the localization of a lot of my favorite jrpgs...they just make some questionable decisions. Definitely agree with this. We can't go take a dump on Fifty Shades of Rape Grey because it's fanbase is 100 million+. They say "F*** you!" If you're one of the 10k people who buy this game and happen to like it though. Ugh... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalez1658 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Didn't NIS America also tone down some of the previous games that they localized, such as Mugen Souls, as well as (I think they are the ones who localized this game, not 100% sure) Record of Agarest War from a few years back? NISA has been doing this sort of thing for a while but it was mostly limited to nitpicky stuff like editing box art, changing the ages of characters, etc. It wasn't until relatively recently with the whole Mugen Souls thing that people started getting up in arms about it since it was an actual gameplay element (albeit a minor and arguably unnecessary one) being removed. I've heard in passing that some of the localization team take issue with some of the material they work on, which would explain a bit, but it still doesn't change the fact it was unnecessarily censored. The RoAW games were done by Aksys, and as far as I know were not censored in the US, although RoAW 2 did have at least one CG removed in Euro and possibly AU regions. It's funny you should mention Agarest because RoAW 2 contains a mini-game that is literally exactly the same as the one that was removed in Mugen Souls and not only did the world not end in cataclysmic fashion, the game only got a T rating. This, along with games like Senran Kagura being localized virtually untouched, are why I don't buy the argument that they're doing this to avoid an AO rating or legal issues. I think the better thing NIS should've done was to submit it uncensored to the ESRB. If it got an AO rating, They could've pulled it back, censor it and then re submit it to get away with the M rating. Submitting a game to ESRB for review is actually pretty expensive and most smaller studios, especially ones that specialize in niche stuff, simply cannot afford to submit a game twice. In a situation like that I can understand wanting to err on the side of caution at least from a financial standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarciaFever Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Thank you for the clarification on Record of Agarest War Dalez1658. I will never the importance of censoring games due to nudity and sexual content, but as a gamer, I cannot wait to play Criminal Girls Invite Only on the Vita tomorrow. Edited February 3, 2015 by GarciaFever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyfan Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) On 2/2/2015 at 8:37 PM, Boooda said: Yeah I believe they did Mugen Souls, they also censored some stuff in Monster Monpiece, but I can't think of many other games off the top of my head. Slight correction, they didn't localize Monster Monpiece. That was Idea Factory International. Edited March 9, 2019 by lazyfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarciaFever Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Just picked up the game today, and so far it looks decent. Will update more as I progress through the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 That's not necessarily true. Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus might have more sexual content in it and Xseed brought that over uncensored and got away with an M rating. I think the better thing NIS should've done was to submit it uncensored to the ESRB. If it got an AO rating, They could've pulled it back, censor it and then re submit it to get away with the M rating. XSeed is based. They are the only ones that have balls to do it. We cannot compare XSeed and NISA. Yeah I believe they did Mugen Souls, they also censored some stuff in Monster Monpiece, but I can't think of many other games off the top of my head. NISA pretty much censored everything they did, it doesn't limit to Mugen Souls. That one is just most known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephirothdude Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 I was hoping one of the 26 owners would post about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanth Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 It's not too bad. Not stellar so far. Story seems to have potential, but the gameplay is pretty generic and the Motivation minigame is... I really dunno. If you're really into lolis I suppose it'd be a key element? Otherwise it just seems kind of ridiculous. And yeah, the fog clears up the more you run it, but you have to to unlock abilities, soooooo. I'm pretty sure the censorship in this case has mostly to do with the age of the girls. Japan and the US have far different laws about that stuff, so I get it. I really don't care for censorship at all, but I kinda understand where they were coming from on this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarciaFever Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 @zanth not all of the girls are lolis. Anyways. The story is pretty good, and I enjoy the battle system because it requires more skill since, unlike most rpgs, you learn skills via the "motivate" system (also known as disciplining the girls). You do not learn the skills automatically when you level up, but instead requires CM (which I forgot what it stands for). During battles, you can swap your characters with another person that isn't in the party (one character per turn) as well as use up only one item per turn (for example, you can choose to use 1 healing item) all while still being able to make an attack. Which brings me to the most important part of the battle system. Like in most rpgs there is always a list of commands that you can choose, such as magic attack, physical attack, etc. However, the way that this system is set up will require a bit more planning. Reason being is because when your turn appears, there are 4 choices to choose from, but the actions that you can choose from are always randomized. Here is a brief example: Girl A has learned a magic spell called Fire.Girl B has learned a healing spell called Cure. Girl C can attack normally Girl D can attack normally. If you want a character to perform a certain skill in a battle, you cannot have that girl perform said skill, but instead you have to wait until the skill shows up on the list so that you can actually pick the skill. The same goes for healing, debuffing, buffing, and casting magic. Note that you can only perform 1 action per turn. Now you might be wondering "Well isn't there a way for the girls to combine attacks, or at least have multiple girls attack in one turn?" The answer is yes. As I mentioned above, in order to learn more skills, you must "motivate them" (the game will give you explanations on how you would go about this). In order to get the choice to motivate them, you will need to acquire CM from defeating monsters.Some of these skills will allow you to have 2-4 girls attack in one turn, or combine their attacks together to make an even more powerful attack. I think have covered most of the battle system. If anyone would like to add to this, feel free to do so . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Satoshi Ookami Posted February 5, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2015 @zanth not all of the girls are lolis. WHAT?! Okay, not buying. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyfan Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 It's not too bad. Not stellar so far. Story seems to have potential, but the gameplay is pretty generic and the Motivation minigame is... I really dunno. If you're really into lolis I suppose it'd be a key element? Otherwise it just seems kind of ridiculous. And yeah, the fog clears up the more you run it, but you have to to unlock abilities, soooooo. I'm pretty sure the censorship in this case has mostly to do with the age of the girls. Japan and the US have far different laws about that stuff, so I get it. I really don't care for censorship at all, but I kinda understand where they were coming from on this. It should also be noted that the idea of removing ages doesn't work here. It worked in Senran Kagura because they look like adults. Here, they look like children no matter what you do. Also, ignore anyone who says NISA censors everything. They don't, and that person is trolling. This, along with games like Senran Kagura being localized virtually untouched, are why I don't buy the argument that they're doing this to avoid an AO rating or legal issues. But your comparisons don't fully work. Xseed did censor sk, they removed their ages. That doesn't work here, and has the opposite problem. The girls are thousands of years in old, but look like little girls. For a lot of people, it looks weird to have a minigame where you taze little girls. No fan of censorship, but just things to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kishnabe Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Will wait for a price drop or when I plat Rebirth 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 . It worked in Senran Kagura because they look like adults. Hibari and Mirai say hi. Xseed did censor sk, they removed their ages. I don't know how you mean this... Does Japanese version have explicitly stated ages for all shinobi? Still... I don't know how is this censorship. They are high schoolers. Even though their ages are never mentioned and story mentions that shinobi schools do not care about the age, everyone knows they are high schoolers. =D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kishnabe Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I agree they look like Children...but they are teenagers in the end. Unless that high school accepts Pre-School, Middle School aged children.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScutumMagister Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I don't have it yet but do plan on getting it regardless of the changes to the game, which were minor changes to the minigame only from what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephirothdude Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 I have it on the way from amazon thanks for all the replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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