Tomoko Kuroki Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 So I've been trying survival for a few days, and everytime I hit around 50-70 the enemies just Hold absolutely every move. DoA is all about mind play but the AI if he feels like he wants to hold, he'll land the perfect one, or so it seems. I'm able to beat arcade legend with the Lisa combo without dying, and with Gen fu without dying most of the time. But when I play in survival I just can't seem to get past 50-60. Around that they just seem to Hold everything. I havn't tried Alpha as I did not unlock her yet, need about 50 titles which I'll get through power blow soon. Are there any extra tips from anyone who's completed these, or does it really come down to luck and hoping they don't hold all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nenugalimas Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Playing pre-patch, reduces the AIs tendency to counter. Aside from that try getting the right timing, theyre far less likely to block if you catch them mid-attack. Also if you're going to play prepatch back up your save, from what I hear it may corrupt your save (going from patched to unpatched) though it didn't happen to me. Edited March 5, 2015 by nenugalimas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyreth Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Lisa's combo is much safer (and less repetitive) than using Alpha, if you mastered it you don't need to use Alpha. The only advice I can give is to keep trying and don't give up, after a while you'll start memorizing the AI's attack patterns. I mainly use Ryu Hayabusa because I know most of his moves. I got to 85 on Survival Legend with him and haven't played it much since that, losing after reaching that far and realizing I wasted an entire hour kinda destroys my motivation to play. Playing pre-patch, reduces the AIs tendency to counter. Aside from that try getting the right timing, theyre far less likely to block if you catch them mid-attack. Also if you're going to play prepatch back up your save, from what I hear it may corrupt your save (going from patched to unpatched) though it didn't happen to me. Is this true? I might give the platinum another shot Edited March 5, 2015 by Lumibelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nenugalimas Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Is this true? I might give the platinum another shot As far as I can tell, yes. There was a noticable decrease in difficulty when I deleted the patch. There are numerous forums that support this claim as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoko Kuroki Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 How does it work to put games pre-patch, what do I delete, I never done this, I would certainly try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyreth Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 As far as I can tell, yes. There was a noticable decrease in difficulty when I deleted the patch. There are numerous forums that support this claim as well. Ok thanks for the info, I'll try doing that the next time I play How does it work to put games pre-patch, what do I delete, I never done this, I would certainly try. Just go into Game Data Utility and delete the install data for DOA5, if you have the digital version you'll have to delete the game and re-download it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viscera1900 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Personally I did this on pre-patch using Alpha. All I did was spam two moves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanzarro Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Learn to hold. Master is the hardest difficulty. AI on Legend is really stupid (easily readed). You can reset the counter frequency of the AI (hold spam) by using throws. Best characters for survival are Kokoro, Kasumi, Lisa, Alpha, Jann Lee and Akira. Deleting the updates is something useless in my opinion, deal with the AI, patience is the key and listen to good music which works to keep you calm in higher rounds. Message me if you want fully detailed tips for everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoko Kuroki Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Will this work even though I have digital ? I'm willing to try, I just read that digital has patch 1.02 as default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoko Kuroki Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 I give up on this game, it's making me fall in depression, can't even beat champ, got to 96 and then ayane just shoved it deep in me, no lube. Props to everyone who's done this trophy, your all gods to me I bow down to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimydawg___ Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Sometimes you just have to wait and counter... I did the survival with Hayate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nenugalimas Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I give up on this game, it's making me fall in depression, can't even beat champ, got to 96 and then ayane just shoved it deep in me, no lube. Props to everyone who's done this trophy, your all gods to me I bow down to you. Don't give in now. You're close, very close. Wave 96 this attempt 100 the next. Keep at it and you'll have it done in no time. Patience is key here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x410xDragon Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I have the game in my backlog, but this is good to know if it is easier pre-patched. Personally I will probably have difficulty doing this, but that is if I actually can get around to it. I plan on making this game my 50th platinum and I am not too worried about getting it done too quickly, since playing 1000 online matches and dealing with the survival matches time and time again will take awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoko Kuroki Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) Deleted patch, still cant get passed 60, get 1 shot and holded every move, I dunno why im still trying. Edited March 8, 2015 by Tomoko Kuroki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtwhite01 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) and Akira. LOL Edited May 5, 2015 by sgtwhite01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanzarro Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 LOL ? He is in fact, Akira is a "punish everything" character if you know how to use him. AI is also dumb trying to predict my moves when i use Akira...i guess that's why he is called the Father of DOA lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtwhite01 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) ? He is in fact, Akira is a "punish everything" character if you know how to use him. Why waste your time? This is the most boring character in the game. Alpha or Lisa - enough. ? i use Akira...i guess that's why he is called the Father of DOA lol I never heard. Who said that? Edited May 5, 2015 by sgtwhite01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanzarro Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Why waste your time? This is the most boring character in the game. Alpha or Lisa - enough. I never heard. Who said that? Learn more about DOA then comeback, you sure don't know anything yet lol Go back to vanilla and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Han_the_Dragon Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Can someone share some tips? (I'm not even sure what Lisa combo it is that people talk about.. long ago I saw one and tried it, but even after I get consistent with it I don't think that I got to far.. higher was around 70 in Champion or whatever is the lowest difficulty that goes to 100 fights.. and I don't even remember with who I got that far..) That's the main reason why I didn't plat this game.. 2 trophies away from plat, both just require me to finish survival (Lisa swimsuit is what I need for the other, and it would be pointless to grind it online, since I will need to finish the survival for plat anyway).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtwhite01 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Learn more about DOA then comeback, you sure don't know anything yet lol Go back to vanilla and learn. That does not answer my question. Where you read of this theory ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanzarro Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 That does not answer my question. Where you read of this theory ? Go back to vanilla, learn about Akira and you will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remilia Scarlet Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Survival is all about timing. Counter, counter and counter again. Wait for an opening and move in for a strike. If you can land a hit, try to keep your combo going as long as you can before you stop. Block. dodge, counter. If you have to, use cheap tactics. I recommend using Kasumi as she has easy combos and a heck of a powerful kick. And as another user said, removing the patch reduces the AI's tendency to counter. Edited May 5, 2015 by AnimeDreama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtwhite01 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 72 wins on legendary, then - blood and tears )) Dark Qi mode engage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Han_the_Dragon Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) I just got the Survival Master! After 52 hours of survival over the last 8 days (I stopped playing everything else just to focus on this). Big thanks to Zanzarro for the extra info and support! If it wasn't for him to kind of convince me to give this a serious try, I probably would never get it! Now I need to unlock all costumes again, since I used a new save file to do survival (avoiding this 4 VF characters).. hope that I don't need to get Alpha again.. otherwise it will be a big grind.. well not as big as survival end up being with me losing several times at 90+ on True Fighter, Master and Legend.. Edited May 13, 2015 by Han_the_Dragon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becmart Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 i made it with lisa and hitomi, when you reach the 90 fight you have to be careful with kasumi, just try to grab all upper punches, attack and wait she make the hold attack and grab her, she is very dangerous and lisa too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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