God of War 3 & 4 talk. (Major GoW3 Spoilers)

[MarsipanRumpan]

I felt like I needed too talk about this, now when God of War 3 Remaster is announced to release and God of War 4 is on its way.
So this topic is Why God of War 3 Remaster is awesome and important. And also What God of War 4 will be about and why I think so.
So if you don't have a clue of who I am, I love God of War. I have all 8 Plats, I have 100% on the original PS2 versions also. In my opinion, God of War is Playstation's best exclusive game, and it is the best game series of all time. God of War 3 is, without a doubt, my favourite game of all time. And IMO, Ascension was one of the PS3 Crown Jewels, there I said it.

Silly Side Note: GoW 3 wich I stated was my favourite game of all time, got an Remaster announced on my birthday. Isn't that sick?

So first of all. Yes, I might be a bit biased, wich I hope you guys can look past. 

There will be MAJOR SPOILERS about God of War 3 and maybe even the other games in the series.

Lets start with the God of War 3 talk. 
So Why is God of War 3 Remaster Awesome and Important?
Well first of all, if you want and have the time, feel free too read my review of the game where I talk about how much I love GoW3 and why.
So the reason I want to talk about this remaster is that when it got announced I saw Playstation and Santa Monica getting tons and tons of shit and alot of people answer questions like 'Why aren't you making a God of War 4' so I want to talk about it.

Don't you guys get why this is getting remastered and not Ascension wich is the latest game released. It isn't because they want to make money on the game everyone loves. Its because God of War 4 is a direct sequel to 3. Wich everyone wants. And they want newcomers to get a hang of the story and continue from there. And also older playstation fans to either pick it up to freshen up the memory too when they play God of War 3.
Santa Monica even stated this themself in an interview.

 

 

-Remasters often help us open the door to new players who perhaps did not play God of War 3 5 years ago, but who we can bring it to on the PlayStation 4.' - Kaufman from Santa Monica

Now the strange thing here too me is why they don't release the whole series or atleast the three main games as I feel every game is required to get the full story. Atleast the main three is very important. GoW3 is so much better if you play it after 1 and 2. Just saying.
Why is God of War 3 remaster awesome for those who played it already (And those who haven't)
Well too relive the story of God of War 3 is ofcourse super awesome. God of War 3 is now in FULL HD. And it already looked stunning. Its actually the most beautiful game on the PS3 and almost nicer looking then most of the PS4 games. So we will get a beauty. (With photo mode) Also, looking for a good Playstation exclusive / any game in general. Well GoW is one of the best games there is, with an awesome story, amazing gameplay thats worth reliving. Playstation needs this Remaster for the newcomers mostly. But also too fill out the summer gap abit. Remember, no one is making you buy this game. This is my opinion and I for sure will pre order the shit out of this game and you should too.

Also noticed in the trailer, in the end where it said 10 years, and 4 logos popped up. Thats a a little GoW 4 tease for sure. And I will bet you that we will get a tease of GoW4 in the GoW3 remaster. This remaster is important for me, because now I have God of War 3 on PS4 too keep me occupied while Im waiting for the fourth installment of this series.
And please, don't say that no one wanted this remaster. I've seen a shit ton of people begging Santa Monica for a remaster.

VR Minigame support? (After the VR GoW Demo)

What will God of War 4 be about, and how will the story go? New Mythology? New main character? REBOOT???
I have all the answers for you guys (I think.)

So here is where the heavy God of War 3 spoilers start.
In the end of God of War 3 Kratos pushes the Sword of Olympus inside his breast. And basically kills himself. BUT after the Credits you see a blood trail thats leading of the stone he killed himself on, showing that Kratos might have survived.
So before I start my theory of how this game is going too be, I'll say that it isn't really fine polished and IF this is the route Santa Monica goes I doubt it will exactly like I say. Because what Im about too say sounds like the first Gow trilogy. Im sure Santa Monica will deliver an entirely new and fresh take on the story. Now too my theory.

God of War 4 will begin DIRECTLY after God of War 3 ends. No doubt. You will hear Gaia talk about Kratos for a bit and then Kratos laying down on a beach covered in blood and almost dead. You will wake up and walk a bit on the beach (With basically no health and no magic just like the other games does when they take your power away from you) and you will come to Athena who will talk with you.
And the conversation ends with 'You've betrayed this world for the last time brother. I can't let you stay in this world any longer, I'll now banish you from this world so I can restore it too what it once was.' then she sends you into a new world wich is a new mythology, with new gods and enemies.

Here is where the reboot part comes in. This game WON'T be a FULL Reboot. It will be a MINOR Reboot and also a Sequel to God of War confirmed by Cory Barlog, the man himself. (The Guy who made God of War 2 basically, and he's making God of War 4)
Quoted from Cory in interviews:

 

 

When asked for further details, he wouldn't say much, though he did assert that it was definitely not a prequel. It's possible this could be the "reboot" - Cory Barlog to IGN

And see, he hasn't confirmed a minor Reboot, but its possible that this could be a reboot. Well here's some proof its a minor reboot and also that Kratos will go to a new Mythology.
Quote from Cory Barlog at the PSX God of War conference:

 

''Is Kratos beatable... I mean, he beat himself in the first game... Multiple version of himself? Maybe not in this mythological pantheon.'' - Cory Barlog

Wich ofcourse is hinting at a new mythology wich soooo many people is begging for. 
I think this game will be about Kratos, and him wanting to kill Athena for one last time and have his final vengence. And this is what I talked about when I said that Santa Monica would come up with something. I think this will be the new trilogy for God of War. That GoW4 will start its own 3 games. And about the talk of a new main character. I know Kratos story is done, but I have such a hard time letting him go. I know its for the best of the franchise but I want Kratos. And also I think that Playstation have a hard time letting their mascot go and also Santa Monica letting their most iconic character go. I think that its possible that in the end of the game, you meet Athena, and you kill eachother. And Kratos is dead, for real this time. You get a cutscene of him and his family together in some place (Heaven / Hell type of thing) and you see Kratos happy. Because after the ending of 3 I have a hard time thinking that a sequel could begin with a new character. Im sorry for those of you that want Kratos story to end.
I think that 4 will have some sort of story about his family also.

But a full Sequel, A minor Reboot, A new Mythology. ABSOLUTELY.
However, new main character, I doubt it..

I promise everyone of you that God of war 4 will be AWESOME. And as I've stated before in other threads, I will pre order GoW 4 both Digital and Physical copies, just too support my favourite game. I hope I gave you some information and that I gave you hope for this amazing franchise. Its my favourite franchise and it will always be.
Playstation Experience God of War 4 CGI trailer.

 

''And while I'm sure the Playstation Experience will be back for Round 2 sometime late next year, we expect that Santa Monica Studio will play a significant role in it yet again'' - Santa Monica

And I actually think there is an possibility we will get the game in 2016. But its fully possible we will have to wait until 2017.


Thank you guys for reading. Now go Play the entire God of War saga and Pre Order 3 Remaster and 4. Happy gaming PSNP, bye!

Edited July 19, 2015 by MarsipanRumpan

[Boooda]

Good read, I also think that God of War 3 was nothing short of a masterpiece and years ahead of its time in terms of graphics, set pieces, and overall scale. And I didn't even play the series in order, I platinumed them in order but GoW 3 was my first ever god of war and I can only imagine what my opinion of it would have been had I played them in order.

I really do hope that the series takes place In a new mythology because spoilers Kratos has literally killed everyone . Im not sure how I feel about it continuing Kratos' story but at the same time I can't imagine god of war without him. I hope they make the transition from mythologies smooth. 

Regarding Athena banishing Kratos to another mythology, I think it would actually make more sense if they introduced Chronos: The god of Space and Time as I feel it'd make more sense if he had that sort of power. And seeing as he hasn't been in any God of War games yet, I think its highly possible. 

Looking forward to replaying and re-platting God of War 3, and I eagerly await the technical marvel that will be God of War 4

[Dragon-Archon]

Maybe you should put "Major Spoilers" in the thread title for people who haven't played GoW3 yet.

[MarcusTheShadow]

I have to say I agree with you.I love God of War and the third one was the main reason I bought a PS3.I always thought a GOW3 remaster was pretty obvious actually.It's like all those collections of PS2 games on PS3 that lets you enjoy gems you didn't play on PS2 (and since GOW3 is one of the best,if not the best PS3 exclusive ever...).I think they won't remaster GOW 1&2 for the simple fact that those are PS2 games and would take more effort to re-remaster them for the PS4,alongside the fact that most people won't be interested in playing a PS2 game on PS4.

Regarding GOW4,SPOILER we all knew the ending didn't actually kill Kratos with that trail of blood and the new mithology thing would be sweet and weird at the same time

 

Good read, I also think that God of War 3 was nothing short of a masterpiece and years ahead of its time in terms of graphics, set pieces, and overall scale. And I didn't even play the series in order, I platinumed them in order but GoW 3 was my first ever god of war and I can only imagine what my opinion of it would have been had I played them in order.

I really do hope that the series takes place In a new mythology because spoilers Kratos has literally killed everyone . Im not sure how I feel about it continuing Kratos' story but at the same time I can't imagine god of war without him. I hope they make the transition from mythologies smooth. 

Regarding Athena banishing Kratos to another mythology, I think it would actually make more sense if they introduced Chronos: The god of Space and Time as I feel it'd make more sense if he had that sort of power. And seeing as he hasn't been in any God of War games yet, I think its highly possible. 

Looking forward to replaying and re-platting God of War 3, and I eagerly await the technical marvel that will be God of War 4

Chronos was in God of war,it was the Giant Titan with the temple on his back(also Zeus' father) that SPOILER Kratos killed in GOW3

Edited March 24, 2015 by MarcusTheShadow

[MarsipanRumpan]

Good read, I also think that God of War 3 was nothing short of a masterpiece and years ahead of its time in terms of graphics, set pieces, and overall scale. And I didn't even play the series in order, I platinumed them in order but GoW 3 was my first ever god of war and I can only imagine what my opinion of it would have been had I played them in order.

I really do hope that the series takes place In a new mythology because spoilers Kratos has literally killed everyone . Im not sure how I feel about it continuing Kratos' story but at the same time I can't imagine god of war without him. I hope they make the transition from mythologies smooth. 

Regarding Athena banishing Kratos to another mythology, I think it would actually make more sense if they introduced Chronos: The god of Space and Time as I feel it'd make more sense if he had that sort of power. And seeing as he hasn't been in any God of War games yet, I think its highly possible. 

Looking forward to replaying and re-platting God of War 3, and I eagerly await the technical marvel that will be God of War 4

Thats the thing, I cant see God of War without Kratos even though I know his story is done. I just want to hear him scream stuff all day lol.

Sorry for my last reply, you were right! Yes thats an awesome idea!!!!

 

Maybe you should put "Major Spoilers" in the thread title for people who haven't played GoW3 yet.

Yes, good idea. Fixed it now, thank you for the tip.

Edited March 24, 2015 by MarsipanRumpan

[Boooda]

Chronos was in God of war,it was the Giant Titan with the temple on his back(also Zeus' father) that SPOILER Kratos killed in GOW3

That was Cronus, and what you just said is pretty much what everyone else is going to think too

That might be the reason he was never in the games, he had a very similar name to one of the main Titans in the series. I'm sure they'll be able to make the distinction quite clear so people aren't confused. 

[MarcusTheShadow]

That was Cronus, and what you just said is pretty much what everyone else is going to think too

That might be the reason he was never in the games, he had a very similar name to one of the main Titans in the series. I'm sure they'll be able to make the distinction quite clear so people aren't confused. 

Nope Chronus doesn't exist,Chronos is Zeus' father and Titan of time.They simply didn't give him time related powers.

[Boooda]

Nope Chronus doesn't exist,Chronos is Zeus' father and Titan of time.They simply didn't give him time related powers.

No man, click the links! There is a clear distinction, apart from the name . One is a titan the other is a god. 

[MarcusTheShadow]

No man, click the links! There is a clear distinction, apart from the name . One is a titan the other is a god. 

Nope that Chronos is the personification of time presocratic philosophy(which I won't think they will use),wasn't part of greek pantheon.

Kronos in greek mithology is the titan father of Zeus,Poseidon and Hades that ate his sons and then was dethronized by Zeus.

I studied Ancient Greek's culture and language for five years,I'm pretty confident about this

Edited March 24, 2015 by MarcusTheShadow

[Boooda]

Nope that Chronos is the personification of time presocratic philosophy,wasn't part of greek pantheon.

Kronos in greek mithology is the titan father of Zeus,Poseidon and Hades that ate his sons and then was dethronized by Zeus.

I studied Ancient Greek's culture and language for five years,I'm pretty confident about this

And I did not study anything except the two wikipedia pages so I'm not confident at all  

Well then I'm all out of ideas on how they'll approach a mythology switch. I can't see athena possessing that kind of power, and I'll be disappointed if God of War 4 is a one-off type game like Ascension and the PSP titles. Hopefully they build up for a trilogy or atleast duology. For plot sake I hope its a seperate mythology as there are almost endless possibilities with Norse or Egyptian mythologies. 

EDIT: The thought of Kratos fighting Odin or Ra has me extremely excited 

Edited March 24, 2015 by Boooda

[HellcoreFire]

I have to say I agree with you.I love God of War and the third one was the main reason I bought a PS3.I always thought a GOW3 remaster was pretty obvious actually.It's like all those collections of PS2 games on PS3 that lets you enjoy gems you didn't play on PS2 (and since GOW3 is one of the best,if not the best PS3 exclusive ever...).I think they won't remaster GOW 1&2 for the simple fact that those are PS2 games and would take more effort to re-remaster them for the PS4,alongside the fact that most people won't be interested in playing a PS2 game on PS4.

Regarding GOW4,SPOILER we all knew the ending didn't actually kill Kratos with that trail of blood and the new mithology thing would be sweet and weird at the same time

 

Chronos was in God of war,it was the Giant Titan with the temple on his back(also Zeus' father) that SPOILER Kratos killed in GOW3

 

You're talking about Cronus.

[DeathNyx]

Maybe we will fight the Primordials this time... oh yes and

Athena will be pretty much an enemy in GoW 4.

[starcrunch061]

<sigh>

 

As a note, there is no accepted spelling of "Kronos" the titan. The "K" that seems popular now used to be "Ch" (the same holds, e.g., in regards to Scylla, which is often rendered now as "Skylla", which yields a closer pronunciation). Another example is the ferryman "Charon", which is now often rendered as "Karon".

 

In other words, "Kronos", "Kronus", "Chronos", etc. all mean the same thing - the ancient Greek alphabet isn't the same as the Roman alphabet.

Now, as to the topic at hand, I come from a different perspective. I loved God of War, but felt the series took a downturn (story-wise, not gameplay-wise) at God of War 2, as Kratos became incredibly one-dimensional, and also very unintelligent. But ignoring that, I see little reason for a GoW3 re-master, unless it's a limited edition for fans and fanboys. I think everyone who wanted to play GoW3 has done so (particularly with the excellent GoW collection, which can be found for pennies nowadays). Only really hardcore fans are going to re-buy games like this.
 

If they want to add it to GoW4 as a bonus (a la WKC being added to WKC2), fine, but I don't see it as nearly so essential as the first post would claim. I won't comment on GoW4, because I'm not that excited about it (given the Mega-Man-itis that series is inflicted with, I would guess exactly more of the same, which again is fine for the diehard fan).

 

BTW, what patron keeps hiding those Gorgon eyes in chests, and why won't that patron accept the sacrifice of Gorgon eyes from the myriad Gorgons that Kratos slays throughout his quest?.

Edited March 24, 2015 by starcrunch061

[PREDRAG-K]

I would hate a full reboot. So many things getting rebooted that really don't need it at all *cough* Ratchet & Clank *cough*

I would love to see Kratos fighting Egyptian gods. Egyptian mythology is my favorite, and there aren't many games that do it justice. Kratos fighting Ra, Osiris, and Anubis would be awesome. I don't know exactly how they'd explain it, but at the end of the day it's just a video game. It doesn't need much explanation, just do whatever. Nobody is going to say, "Hey wait a minute, how is Kratos in Egypt now? This isn't realistic."

[Dragon-Archon]

I'd like to see GOW4 continuing Kratos' story. After the GOW3 credits, Kratos is gone and left the Blade of Olympus behind and the screen shows a bloody trail. I'd like to see Spirit Athena as the bad guy. If she survived her apparent death by turning into a spirit, the other gods could do the same. They could be trying to control the chaos that Kratos unleashed when they lost control over all the elements. Or the Roman gods (who were "borrowed" from the Greek pantheon and given different names) could make an appearance. They could be the Greek gods reborn when the spirits gained new bodies. Kratos would have to find a way to destroy their spirits to finally get rid of them.

[starcrunch061]

 Or the Roman gods (who were "borrowed" from the Greek pantheon and given different names) could make an appearance. They could be the Greek gods reborn when the spirits gained new bodies. Kratos would have to find a way to destroy their spirits to finally get rid of them.

 

Oh...I like that. Gives a new, fresh interpretation of the Roman pantheon. Also, Ares could change (the Roman god Mars was very well-respected). Or Kratos could become the Roman god Mars.

 

That is a really cool idea.

[MarsipanRumpan]

I'd like to see GOW4 continuing Kratos' story. After the GOW3 credits, Kratos is gone and left the Blade of Olympus behind and the screen shows a bloody trail. I'd like to see Spirit Athena as the bad guy. If she survived her apparent death by turning into a spirit, the other gods could do the same. They could be trying to control the chaos that Kratos unleashed when they lost control over all the elements. Or the Roman gods (who were "borrowed" from the Greek pantheon and given different names) could make an appearance. They could be the Greek gods reborn when the spirits gained new bodies. Kratos would have to find a way to destroy their spirits to finally get rid of them.

I also thought about that. And that would also be amazing.

[GoldenShaka]

I remember some days ago another thread like this and yes,I also said that this GOW3 remaster will include something about GOW4, my only concern is that they tweak the end adding something, i hope they don't. They can tease the new product whatever they want but I really hope they don't add anything to the main source (GOW3).

 

And of course I want something about Kratos vs Athena, and big fans knows it due how she was introduced in the PSP games, that's why even when most people don't give a damn about those smaller games, those stories (ghost of Sparta and Chain of Olympus) made me enjoy more the GOW3 conclusion.

[MarsipanRumpan]

I remember some days ago another thread like this and yes,I also said that this GOW3 remaster will include something about GOW4, my only concern is that they tweak the end adding something, i hope they don't. They can tease the new product whatever they want but I really hope they don't add anything to the main source (GOW3).

 

And of course I want something about Kratos vs Athena, and big fans knows it due how she was introduced in the PSP games, that's why even when most people don't give a damn about those smaller games, those stories (ghost of Sparta and Chain of Olympus) made me enjoy more the GOW3 conclusion.

Yes, Athena became a much more important character after Ghost of Sparta for me. That was amazing.

I have always liked Athena but now I really want her to be the big bad boss. It would be amaaazziiiing!!

And I doubt they will tweak GoW3 end, I just think they will put in a little teaser. Like two sentences from Kratos or something small.

[GenoStarrz]

While I didn't like GoW until Chains of Olympus, I'd prefer Kratos takes on Christianity or at least end Greek mythology.

[MarsipanRumpan]

While I didn't like GoW until Chains of Olympus, I'd prefer Kratos takes on Christianity or at least end Greek mythology.

Lol, Kratos vs Dante

[MarcusTheShadow]

Wow the whole thing "Greek gods became their Roman alter egos" got me pretty excited,it would be awesome! Although Kratos vs Odin,Rah etc is also very unlikely that would be absolutely epic.

However putting living religions (Cristianity etc) as a character or antagonist would be like putting a target on yourself in front of a really skilled sniper 

[Dragon-Archon]

Lol, Kratos vs Dante

Kratos would totally slaughter Dante, Death, and Lucifer and gain some awesome weapons and magic.

[MarsipanRumpan]

Kratos would totally slaughter Dante, Death, and Lucifer and gain some awesome weapons and magic.

Yeah, Dante wouldn't stand a single chance. Kratos would rip his body in half in two seconds

[Thomda]

Okay first of all LOVE THIS THREAD.

 

I am pretty excited about a new god of war and the idea that it will go towards a different mythology is amazing.

 

But here an idea, at the end of God of War 3 the screen states: In the end there will only be chaos.

Now if you look into greek mythology chaos is like the father of the titans the creator of the world so to say.

Is it possible that the new enemy will be chaos because Kratos F***** up his creations??

 

Please let me hear about your opinions