acasser Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 8 hours ago, SebGamer93 said: People had the Dolphins as the worst team in the league, especially ESPN and Bleacher Report, and now they could potentially be 3-0 with a winnable game against Oakland at home next Sunday. This is why one should play the (expletive deleted) games before judging who they really believe is good or bad. It's not as bad as it is in college football, where if you don't have the pre-season hype and a lofty ranking you might as well give up on winning a championship and just play to get a bid to the Liquid Plumr(TM) Toilet Bowl, but it's still a case where it takes a little while to figure out who really might be unexpectedly good or bad -- and there are always a few in each column. A friend of mine who is a Giants' fan texted me today asking me what I thought about a slew of "Power Rankings" from around the interwebs putting the Giants above the Jets. So I texted him back this (direct quote): Power Rankings are opinions. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one, and most of them stink. The Dolphins may be better than a lot of people thought. Or maybe they just beat up on a pair of teams that aren't going to be so wonderful. That's one of those things we'll need some more hindsight to judge, although I'd probably pick them to get to 3-0 if I was into the whole "picking teams and/or betting on the NFL" sort of thing. .... As for ESPN, the less said about them the better. They weren't very good at the "predicting sports" thing to begin with, and that was before they made a sharp turn into being just another political and social commentary network. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 14 hours ago, Cassylvania said: Between all the good, bad, and ridiculously weird stats over the weekend, this one sticks out to me the most: Bradford threw for 90 yards...on 27 attempts. That is the most putrid number I've seen for a QB not named Peterman in the last two years. Makes you wonder how close they are to playing Josh Rosen with those awful numbers and only 1 td in 2 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majob Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 9 hours ago, acasser said: This is why one should play the (expletive deleted) games before judging who they really believe is good or bad. It's not as bad as it is in college football, where if you don't have the pre-season hype and a lofty ranking you might as well give up on winning a championship and just play to get a bid to the Liquid Plumr(TM) Toilet Bowl, but it's still a case where it takes a little while to figure out who really might be unexpectedly good or bad -- and there are always a few in each column. A friend of mine who is a Giants' fan texted me today asking me what I thought about a slew of "Power Rankings" from around the interwebs putting the Giants above the Jets. So I texted him back this (direct quote): Power Rankings are opinions. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one, and most of them stink. The Dolphins may be better than a lot of people thought. Or maybe they just beat up on a pair of teams that aren't going to be so wonderful. That's one of those things we'll need some more hindsight to judge, although I'd probably pick them to get to 3-0 if I was into the whole "picking teams and/or betting on the NFL" sort of thing. .... As for ESPN, the less said about them the better. They weren't very good at the "predicting sports" thing to begin with, and that was before they made a sharp turn into being just another political and social commentary network. Sports analysts are bad at their job to be sure but Vegas odds tend to be pretty good. I guess when money is involved, the people involved do more research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acasser Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 3 hours ago, majob said: Sports analysts are bad at their job to be sure but Vegas odds tend to be pretty good. I guess when money is involved, the people involved do more research Las Vegas isn't in the business of trying to predict what is going to happen or to analyze what has already come before. Las Vegas is in the business of setting lines so that they get roughly equal action on either side -- or trying to do so -- because that's how they make their money. For example, if they opened the line on tomorrow night's Jets/Browns game at Cleveland -3, that doesn't mean Las Vegas expects the Browns to win by three points. It means that's their "sweet spot" where their chosen experts expect the betting to be relatively even on both sides. And if their chosen experts happen to be wrong and there's an avalanche of money on "Jets +3", they'll start moving the line until things level out. The house is pretty much guaranteed to make money when they can surf that sweet spot and not have to move the lines (or move them much). And that's what they're in the business to do: make themselves some money. On the other hand, their biggest fear is that they whiff on an opening line so badly and have to move the line so much that savvy bettors can place two separate bets several days apart that cover the entire field. If you could bet "Jets +5" and "Cleveland -1" on that same Jets/Browns game, you end up with a very real chance to double your money and soak the house, and that's usually the worst-case scenario for a sportsbook. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majob Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Apparently Antonio Brown didn't show up for practice. Things are starting to come to a head with Steelers it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryToxteth Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 16 hours ago, acasser said: As for ESPN, the less said about them the better. They weren't very good at the "predicting sports" thing to begin with, and that was before they made a sharp turn into being just another political and social commentary network. Amen brother. At this point, ESPN is just a tabloid, with little journalism involved. It's People Magzine for sports. He said this, he tweeted that, etc. etc. Endless talking heads, pompous pundits - it's nauseating because it's all opinion with little on facts (which I guess in America, that formula can win you the Presidency). I feel glad I grew up at a time when ESPN actually showed highlights. And a time when they had legitimate journalists like Tom Mees and Bob Levy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebGamer93 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Tannehill is actually 9-1 in his last 10 starts and Gase is 10-5 with Tannehill as the QB. IDK how the Dolphins will finish and if they are even good, but the numbers don't lie. They find ways to win together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 My Week 3 2018-19 NFL Tips Browns over Jets Falcons over Saints Vikings over Bills Panthers over Bengals Broncos over Ravens Packers over Redskins Jags over Titans Eagles over Colts Chiefs over 49ers Dolphins over Raiders Texans over Giants Rams over Chargers Bears over Cardinals Cowboys over Seahawks Patriots over Lions Bucs over Steelers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidson2004 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Browns win!! Browns win!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychicVibe Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, kidson2004 said: Browns win!! Browns win!!!! And scientists have now determined that the moon is indeed made of Swiss cheese, the earth is flat, the sun is the center of the universe and smoking tobacco in sum has positive health effects. Congratulations to the Browns and their fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeydluffy512 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 That Browns Jets game....... Just wow Congrats to Cleveland and their faithful fans!!! Lets hope they can build on top of this. And to those near a Victory Fridge enjoy your free beer!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 hours ago, kidson2004 said: Browns win!! Browns win!!!! Think they’ll have a new starting QB going forward. Anyway... It’s only week 3. Quit your bitching or you might get your wish to be traded! http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000964357/article/antonio-brown-on-frustrations-were-losing-we-suck I know he said he didn’t really want to be traded. Bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Congrats to The browns on there drought breaking win and well it's official Baker Mayfield time has started and it has done so with a bang, not getting on hype train yet, i'll let him play more, but damn was he good, compared to the awful play from Tyrod Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acasser Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Spyro said: It’s only week 3. Quit your bitching or you might get your wish to be traded! http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000964357/article/antonio-brown-on-frustrations-were-losing-we-suck I know he said he didn’t really want to be traded. Bullshit. Pittsburgh would have to be blown away by a trade offer to make it worth their while. Locker room issues or no, the salary cap ramifications throw a very big wrench into the works. It won't happen this season, but I could see it happening in the off-season. If Ben Roethlisberger decides to call it quits and Le'Veon Bell heads off into the wild blue yonder of Free Agency, Pittsburgh could do it just to hit the reset button on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassylvania Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 And to think I could've been at that game... Well, good for the Browns! Mayfield played exceptionally well. I'm not going to be the one that says the Browns could be 3-0 if they had started him all along, but... One of the reasons I love mid-September football is that we get a lot of meaningless early season drama. Pittsburgh is a good example. I fully expect them to be back in the win column this weekend, but, in the meantime, we can imagine the best and worst case scenarios. Best case scenario? AB to the Vikes. Worst case scenario? Le'Veon to the Packers. The first is just pie in the sky, but the second is a very real possibility if the Steelers don't get back on track, so expect me to be waving a terrible towel Monday night. Perhaps the oddest scenario of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majob Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 The one game I bother to not watch ends up probably being one of the most memorable. Well, let that be a lesson then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryToxteth Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 hours ago, majob said: The one game I bother to not watch ends up probably being one of the most memorable. Well, let that be a lesson then Well, it wasn't memorable in the first half. Neither team could move the ball and there was inept play, like a terrible missed block which ended up as a punt block. With the Jets up and Cleveland incapable of moving the ball forward, I gave up. Whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majob Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 We must be in the Twilight Zone right now. Bills hosing the Vikings, Redskins hosing the Packers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar_Of_Battle Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, majob said: We must be in the Twilight Zone right now. Bills hosing the Vikings, Redskins hosing the Packers, I was just thinking to myself "the Jags either forgot to drink their super juice, or the Titans stole it and had double doses of super juice" for the score in that game to be where it is lol. (not that I can watch it. I'm watching, barely, Miami vs Oakland instead of KC vs 49ers.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majob Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Avatar_Of_Battle said: I was just thinking to myself "the Jags either forgot to drink their super juice, or the Titans stole it and had double doses of super juice" for the score in that game to be where it is lol. (not that I can watch it. I'm watching, barely, Miami vs Oakland instead of KC vs 49ers.) NFL Redzone is your friend. About the only time I watch just one single game is when my Lions are playing and Sunday, Monday, and Thursday Night Football Edited September 23, 2018 by majob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majob Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Looks like having Vontae quit on them mid game has put the Bills on the warpath. Only shutout so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conker Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Well the Bills have the biggest shock of the season so far. NFL fix the roughing the passer rule, another garbage flag on Clay Matthews which looks 100% perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelgrievous Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 ugh, these bengals test me every damn year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassylvania Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 This is what happens when the Browns win a game! The universe is out of whack. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria! Redskins, do your job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majob Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Cassylvania said: This is what happens when the Browns win a game! The universe is out of whack. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria! Redskins, do your job. Seriously, there's way too much time on the board and it's only a two score game with a qb known for pulling wins out of his behind when things look bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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