Superbuu3 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Source gematsu: To bring Toukiden to the forefront as a billboard title for Koei Tecmo, we wanted to quickly bring out a sequel. After considering the level of immersion we wanted to give players, we opted for an open-world. The game has the same world setting and time period as the first Toukiden. There will be comfortable online play and an increase in the multiplayer population, but certain measures will be necessary. Cross-play and cross-save are supported. We want to listen to feedback in a similar way we did with the demos we’ve released in the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damon8r351 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Do yourself a favor, wait for the inevitable expanded version that comes out a year after that one comes out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Something about that "we wanted to get a sequel out as quickly as possible" line doesn't sit right with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-Archon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Looks like I better hurry and start Toukiden The Age of Demons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Open world in hunting game is a baaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbuu3 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 Open world in hunting game is a baaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea. It probably means more like soul sacrifice and freedom wars where the game doesn't load between areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MesopithecusUK Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) Something to look forward to after I have completed Kiwami Edited September 16, 2015 by MiniMog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 It probably means more like soul sacrifice and freedom wars where the game doesn't load between areas. I'm pretty sure those games do not classify as "open world" by its definition. If it was the same, they wouldn't need to advertise it as open world since SS and FW are classic MH hunters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MesopithecusUK Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I'm pretty sure those games do not classify as "open world" by its definition. If it was the same, they wouldn't need to advertise it as open world since SS and FW are classic MH hunters. I think I get what Buu means though, as Toukiden has a loading screen each time you pass through into a new zone of the same map area (whereas SS doesn't) If Toukiden 2 is going to be more open world, then I'm hopeful those zones and loading times are done away with (as a complete open world wouldn't make sense) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbuu3 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 I'm pretty sure those games do not classify as "open world" by its definition. If it was the same, they wouldn't need to advertise it as open world since SS and FW are classic MH hunters. Its a buzz word and has a loose definition. Given how awful their plan sounds like rushing the game out being a selling point, I wouldn't doubt something that is as standard would be considered a big deal. Something to look forward to after I have completed Kiwami Something to look forward to after I start kiwami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumDumBig Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Its a buzz word and has a loose definition. Given how awful their plan sounds like rushing the game out being a selling point, I wouldn't doubt something that is as standard would be considered a big deal. I don't think they would go out of their way to trying to sell it on open world if they tried to half-ass it afterwards. It would have more of negative back-lash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbuu3 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 I don't think they would go out of their way to trying to sell it on open world if they tried to half-ass it afterwards. It would have more of negative back-lash. By definition anything which is continuous is an open world. People read way too much into terms like that and think it means like GTA. We'll have a hub and various maps which won't have loading screens between rooms. Shadow of the colossus is also open world, and that is the way this will likely play out, having a corridor, bridge, cavern or other barren section instead of a loading screen isn't the biggest deal but makes it easy to use the term open world. Also KT Family does not give two craps what Koei does as long as the game comes out, KR2 and DW6 suffered no backlash at all despite being godawful games. Its why they can release games every couple of months and i'll still buy all of them, because they're entertaining despite falling short in certain departments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumDumBig Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 By definition anything which is continuous is an open world. People read way too much into terms like that and think it means like GTA. We'll have a hub and various maps which won't have loading screens between rooms. Shadow of the colossus is also open world, and that is the way this will likely play out, having a corridor, bridge, cavern or other barren section instead of a loading screen isn't the biggest deal but makes it easy to use the term open world. Also KT Family does not give two craps what Koei does as long as the game comes out, KR2 and DW6 suffered no backlash at all despite being godawful games. Its why they can release games every couple of months and i'll still buy all of them, because they're entertaining despite falling short in certain departments. I understand that but it just seems that they are pushing it too much for it to be just minor things like you said. Well we'll see during TGS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbuu3 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) I understand that but it just seems that they are pushing it too much for it to be just minor things like you said. Well we'll see during TGS. I'm going to be super cynical of any dev who says this as the first line in an interview: To bring Toukiden to the forefront as a billboard title for Koei Tecmo, we wanted to quickly bring out a sequel. I mean that just reads rushed to me. That said trying to have this with cities potentially being attacked by Oni that would make the game similar to Attack on Titan which will release close to this. Doesn't make sense to kill your own sales by releasing two similar games next to each other. I am a big Koei fan in general, but I know thye have a tendency to make things sound a lot better than they actually are. Also if it is actually done fully open world the grinding is going to be dreaful as we'll have to constantly have to travel back and forth to allow enemies to respawn. Not usre if you pllayed the first game but that was a crazy grindfest. EDIT: also open world the way i said it would still be considered a selling feature because the loading between areas was irritating and made the game feel disjointed, you also got knocked out of areas mid fight which was a pain in the ass adn reset some of the power ups. Edited September 16, 2015 by Superbuu3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumDumBig Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Also if it is actually done fully open world the grinding is going to be dreaful as we'll have to constantly have to travel back and forth to allow enemies to respawn. Not usre if you pllayed the first game but that was a crazy grindfest. That's the point. I don't think that hunting game would work well with fully open world but that's what a lot of people is expecting from it now. That's why I implied there would be back-lash. For some reason people like assume things without anything actuall confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbuu3 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 That's the point. I don't think that hunting game would work well with fully open world but that's what a lot of people is expecting from it now. That's why I implied there would be back-lash. For some reason people like assume things without anything actuall confirmed. It will likely not make a difference, mainly because open world sounds like a bad idea so people will be 50/50 regarding whether its good or bad. Elimination of loading screens for the reasons I edited into the above post would overall get praise though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumDumBig Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 It will likely not make a difference, mainly because open world sounds like a bad idea so people will be 50/50 regarding whether its good or bad. Elimination of loading screens for the reasons I edited into the above post would overall get praise though. The way you said it would be perfect for the game. But with the boom of full open worlds nowadays one gets worried if they didn't get any silly ideas. But who knows maybe they'll manage to pull of full open world and surprise many of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MesopithecusUK Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I don't really see how there would be backlash to be honest From playing and completing Toukiden: Age of Demons, how I interpreted open world was that there would be more "free roam" to the map instead of the zone system that's implemented at present. It cuts down on the loading between zones. I imagine that a lot of people who will pick up Toukiden 2 will be those already familiar with the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumDumBig Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I don't really see how there would be backlash to be honest From playing and completing Toukiden: Age of Demons, how I interpreted open world was that there would be more "free roam" to the map instead of the zone system that's implemented at present. It cuts down on the loading between zones. I imagine that a lot of people who will pick up Toukiden 2 will be those already familiar with the series. But not everyone interpreted it the same way. I saw some comments in places that were expecting full open world. Back-lash would come from these people who expected something and got something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MesopithecusUK Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I saw some comments in places that were expecting full open world. Have you got any links? Would love to see some examples of what people are saying. I personally love Toukiden so this has piqued my interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumDumBig Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) Have you got any links? Would love to see some examples of what people are saying. I personally love Toukiden so this has piqued my interest. Some comments here. I guess it's not that many but there are some. Though maybe I might have just misinterpreted them (EDIT: I didn't really consider other interpretation of open world than full one, that's how I meant misinterpreted. Just to be clear.) http://gematsu.com/2015/09/toukiden-2-announced-ps4-ps3-ps-vita Edited September 16, 2015 by KurodaKyousuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosmasta00 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Reminds me that i need to go and plat Toukiden but online is pretty much dead at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MesopithecusUK Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Reminds me that i need to go and plat Toukiden but online is pretty much dead at it. You can pretty much do all the phases solo (with the AI characters) That's what I did anyway. I still have my save data as I intend on playing Kiwami for my 100th platinum, so I could hop on to help for a couple of the phase missions and then you can use my ghost data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misthebestever Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 i need to go and plat Toukiden before this come out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemisthemp Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I wonder if, Toukiden 2 have any connection to Toukiden Kiwami or if, the story will take place in another time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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