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also vert is a adult :P from the animation that's what I seen anyway all of them are actually adults :P

Well they might be adults but they are drawn that way because that is what Loliporn is (or the longer word is Lolita Porn...and if you don't know where that comes from you can google it).

 

It might be done for comedy and I am sure most of the people on here play HD for the comedic bits (I found the first game to be pretty funny...just the gameplay was terrible so I had to quit playing) but I would say a large majority of the people who watch these cartoons or play these games are not doing it for the humor, just like most people didn't watch Baywatch for the engaging story.

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I don't have a whole to add although I will say I was always under the impression that Hentai was just animated Japanese porn. I even bought a Hentai Collection on DVD for a laugh once because it was on sale and although I wouldn't so much describe it as porn so much as I would a basic story with more sex than normal. Every other time I had seen Hentai DVDs in a shop that's what was always on the cover. However I see now that's just a Westernised stereotype. And when I saw the Baka Hentai PP thread I was like uhhhh wut :jaymon: however that has now also been cleared up. Coincidentally I also got the HDN Hyper Collection in the mail today and the only reason why I had ever heard of it and decided to get it is because so many people on here like the series.

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I kinda sorta get where you're coming from. I dont really get the vibe that theres a rift between the anime community on this site and...well, the non anime community for lack of a better term. At the end of the day, theres always going to be haters or people bitching for the sake of bitching. It really just boils down to ignorance and people taking offense too easily. People who are a little more vocally eccentric in regards to anime will probably push the buttons of someone completely oblivious to that community and it comes off strange I guess? I dont know, I've seen a great deal of community members on this site a lot more accepting of anime fans than not. 

 

Its up to you to be offended, but if you're one of those crazy super fans of ecchi games or games of the like, surely you understand the stigma that comes with that. And its clearly not stopped you yet. 

Personally I haven't seen as many people accept it as I'd like to tell you, I guess we're on different ends of the spectrum in this regard xD Though I do have to disagree with there being a lack of non-anime members in the community, they exist in quite a large number if you look, its just they're not active... perhaps because they feel slightly overwhelmed in some regard?

It seems like the forum regulars are vocally more accepting and the chatbox regulars are vocally less accepting. (I hope I'm using that word right.) This is just a personal observation. It could be why the two of you have different understandings of it.

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Anime is not only good, it should be mandatory for everyone.  If elected dictator president, I pledge to increase funding for the research and development of new animes by 1000%, as well as found an elite squad of special forces known as O.V.A. (omnis vitae anime or "anime life for everyone") to extol the virtues of anime upon everyone and... "assist" those who have not yet accepted it into their lives.

 

Slightly more serious answer : "Enjoy what you like".  To paraphrase Kenichiro Takaki : "With so many things for one to enjoy in this world, there is nothing more futile and pointless than wasting your time on things that you dislike or that you cannot understand".

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Did that not make much sense? Well, lolis aren't really a topic that each and everyone of us can understand so why don't we try putting a similar situation into topic almost all of us can agree upon? Let's try Violence in video games. We've all seen those BS headlines and stories on mainstream media. They say that new evidence has been uncovered and it is that Grand Theft Auto, Mortal Kombat and/or Call of Duty, etc. was in the possession of the perpetrator behind the latest massacre or school shooting and this should upset people. It creates the common misconception that if somebody causes violence in a digital world that you suddenly get this huge rush of testosterone that makes all gamers think "I want to go kill someone/something right now!".

 

You see how dumb that sounds? We've played those kinds of games and a lot of us really like them. Is it because the main objective behind the game is to kill people? Usually, that's not the case. Maybe there's a story that really tugs your heartstrings or the multiplayer is just really fun. Whatever the reason, I'm pretty sure you and I didn't buy the latest M-rated shooter just to kill digital people.

That's an excellent analogy. Well done.

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Well they might be adults but they are drawn that way because that is what Loliporn is (or the longer word is Lolita Porn...and if you don't know where that comes from you can google it).

 

It might be done for comedy and I am sure most of the people on here play HD for the comedic bits (I found the first game to be pretty funny...just the gameplay was terrible so I had to quit playing) but I would say a large majority of the people who watch these cartoons or play these games are not doing it for the humor, just like most people didn't watch Baywatch for the engaging story.

 

Actually I'm pretty sure it's explained at the end of the PSA that there's Lolicon and then there's body types tailored to suit each individuals needs, in the case of HDN it could be said that the bodies are in fact tailored to each persons preference as opposed to being specifically lolicon - as I'm sure the characters are not 10 years old

 

Remember, this is coming from someone who despises HDN.

 

Firstly dont take this personally as the stuff tht you do certainly has no reflection on you as a person and i'm sure you're a lot nicer in person (I know shitloads of people on here hate me I've seen the comments in the chatbox when i've walked in there, aside from poor health it was the other reason I post less now), I'm more than active enough here to comment on how the forum is.

 

The problem is not as big as you are making it out to be. Its just like when I first came on this forum I remember you very well, being extremely rude and unfriendly and upsetting lots of people, derailing topics with arguments and personal agendas you had against specific people and making it clear to me chatbox people and forum people should be kept seperate. I will add you have been acting more mature for the most part lately, but that youve done nothing to show me you've made amends for your previous actions and it certainly doesn't remove the level of hypocrisy (You being the guy who made a 9/11 joke) this topic has. Seeing as you've actively segregated previously between the chatbox and forum goers. You've also been banned, I may not know the reasons, but I can't say I trust someone who offends and trolls repeatedly and then asks people to open up a polite dialogue.

 

No dialogue needs to be open, all problems woud be solved with the following.

1. People need to drop the namecalling

2. People need to stop posting in threads they have nothing useful to add.

3. No derailing topics with roleplaying (do that in PMs) and no spamming of images.

 

Sorry but the rest of your peace negotiations would go about as well as they do in reality.

 

EDIT: before someone jumps on me for making out i'm a self righteous asshole, I'll let my actions speak for themselves. I'm not a good guy just an average one as I certainly can be a dick, but I try my best to help people get along if you didn't notice with my group activities and I very much would like everyone to get along hence me stepping in when there's an argument to try and get people to calm down. More so recently than before.

 

Firstly, in your edit you're trying to tell us you're calming down an already calm discussion? I understand that some of the posts already may have been misleading in the way of making people seem triggered in one way or another but this has been a pretty chill topic so far and there sure are less "butthurt" people than I expected to pop up.

 

Next I'm sure I've already mentioned I'm not the best of people - the last 9/11 joke I remember making being the one on that severely racist Paris topic intended in irony and nothing apart from that. Additionally making ammends for whatever I've done in the past is a bit hard when you've got - insert your favorite offensive word here - who have no idea what they're going on about, believing that they're the righteous ones and not listening to a word that you say. Now I'm not saying you're one of those peop-

 

"[...]but I can't say I trust someone who offends and trolls repeatedly and then asks people to open up a polite dialogue." Oh.

 

However I am saying because of them, it's literally impossible to make ammends as they don't give you the chance to open up any dialogue whatsoever.

 

The way I'm seeing how this has played out is in a similar fashion as to how every sensitive topic with two very specific sides also plays out. By two very specific sides, I mean the one side that indulges, loves or is obsessed with in the topic at hand and the other side with little to no experience or hates the topic at hand that makes a quick assumption as to how the people who indulge in said topic live their lives.

 

Did that not make much sense? Well, lolis aren't really a topic that each and everyone of us can understand so why don't we try putting a similar situation into a topic almost all of us can agree upon? Let's try Violence in video games. We've all seen those BS headlines and stories on mainstream media. They say that new evidence has been uncovered and it is that Grand Theft Auto, Mortal Kombat and/or Call of Duty, etc. was in the possession of the perpetrator behind the latest massacre or school shooting and this should upset people. It creates the common misconception that if somebody causes violence in a digital world that you suddenly get this huge rush of testosterone that makes all gamers think "I want to go kill someone/something right now!".

 

You see how dumb that sounds? We've played those kinds of games and a lot of us really like them. Is it because the main objective behind the game is to kill people? Usually, that's not the case. Maybe there's a story that really tugs your heartstrings or the multiplayer is just really fun. Whatever the reason, I'm pretty sure you and I didn't buy the latest M-rated shooter just to kill digital people.

 

I didn't buy the latest shooter because I've got Mass Effect and Metal Gear baby B)

 

EDIT: Wait, shit, I was meant to add more here, hold on

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Firstly, in your edit you're trying to tell us you're calming down an already calm discussion? I understand that some of the posts already may have been misleading in the way of making people seem triggered in one way or another but this has been a pretty chill topic so far and there sure are less "butthurt" people than I expected to pop up.

 

Next I'm sure I've already mentioned I'm not the best of people - the last 9/11 joke I remember making being the one on that severely racist Paris topic intended in irony and nothing apart from that. Additionally making ammends for whatever I've done in the past is a bit hard when you've got - insert your favorite offensive word here - who have no idea what they're going on about, believing that they're the righteous ones and not listening to a word that you say. Now I'm not saying you're one of those peop-

 

"[...]but I can't say I trust someone who offends and trolls repeatedly and then asks people to open up a polite dialogue." Oh.

 

However I am saying because of them, it's literally impossible to make ammends as they don't give you the chance to open up any dialogue whatsoever.

 

The edit wasn't for you. You should know you are a chat box regular and you certainly would've seen the comments against me. I was talking about my actions in general which a lot of people are pissed off because they think i'm trying to play mod. The discussion is calm nothing is happening and I doubt anything will, but the topic is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Although I actually wrote that out beforehand because I had a feeling you'd write something about me being self righteous.

 

We both know you've done a bunch of 9/11 jokes i'm more bothered about the fact you make any and sometimes out of the blue for no reason. The fact is you just bring up 9/11 very easily and its depressing there's multiple instances.

 

If you want to make amends stop segregating and don't troll people I see it constantly. Saying one nice thing does not redeem a bunch of bullying that I've seen you doing. Be consistent and i'll trust, agree and even support you if anyone gives you a hard time. But don't tell me you've changed when within the last week I've seen you make 9/11 jokes and on top of that this topic seems more about you being a self appointed spokes person. Let's face it if someone else wrote the opening post you'd have asked who put them in charge or just trolled.

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I agree with this topic, i'm not bashing people or anything. But, i feel that everyone should know the difference between the misunderstandings before jumping to conclusions.

 

I also get, sort of, disturbed when someone says that Yaoi and Yuri are simply pornography and nothing more based on just a single anime or a manga they or the majority read or watched.

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I agree with this topic, i'm not bashing people or anything. But, i feel that everyone should know the difference between the misunderstandings before jumping to conclusions.

 

I also get, sort of, disturbed when someone says that Yaoi and Yuri are simply pornography and nothing more based on just a single anime or a manga they or the majority read or watched.

To be fair I think some people don't realise that there's yaoi and yuri romance anime/manga outside of hentai.

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I feel like im somewhat of a minority. I play the games but I actually hate anime. With exceptions of like studio ghibli movies. I dont care for the under age stuff. I dont care for the crazy perv stuff (but I have a plat for monster monpiece and criminal girls) i just for whatever reason enjoy the games.

Ive always had a thing for rpgs but dislike anime. Now as the games develop and evolve to be not 16bit (yah yah its been that way awhile) i get things like voice acting i dont care for. Especially in japanese. And while i can enjoy a story and watch the scenes i just dont see the draw to certain characters.

Does this mean i cant like a character? No way. I liked some of my danganronpa fellows and was like hey yah lets build some friendships because the story was there.

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I actually read the whole thread, including the first post and...

Am I the only one that thinks the problem is on the non-anime side according to the OP?

I'm neither chatbox regular, nor have I seen any of the mentioned "crisis" so I can't contribute much, but don't all arguments start with the non-anime side attacking the anime side?

Feel free to clarify it for me, but that's how it looks to me.

 

 

EDIT:And from what I've seen, problems are with threads. In that case... why not avoiding them?

There were suggestions to make Anime section, unfortunately, they were abolished. Maybe now, if you present these issues, Sly may make it. In that case, the "dangerous" threads would be easier to avoid?

 

a big titted blonde who looks like she is sucking a dildo stuck between her breasts 

But that's what you see :P Obviously, since it's green, everyone knows it's her ribbon :awesome:

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Well they might be adults but they are drawn that way because that is what Loliporn is (or the longer word is Lolita Porn...and if you don't know where that comes from you can google it).

 

It might be done for comedy and I am sure most of the people on here play HD for the comedic bits (I found the first game to be pretty funny...just the gameplay was terrible so I had to quit playing) but I would say a large majority of the people who watch these cartoons or play these games are not doing it for the humor, just like most people didn't watch Baywatch for the engaging story.

As said before the shape of the loli is not a bad thing and as everyone stated before it is not okay if the person is under 16/18 (some countries different age limits) but if they are a adult tbh there is absulutely no issue with it. Some people can play it for the flirting so what? It didn't cause world war 3 yet and we are absulutely fine. Just because it looks like children... Doesn't mean we like them for that... as stated multiple times it is the body shape etc. Not the age considering they are all adults I believe this is big enough prove that we like how they look and it isn't about the age, if people really craved children people wouldn't like HDN as much as they do.

Indeed I was xD I'm also known as Mr. FellAsleepInAVoiceChat

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Well they might be adults but they are drawn that way because that is what Loliporn is (or the longer word is Lolita Porn...and if you don't know where that comes from you can google it).

 

It might be done for comedy and I am sure most of the people on here play HD for the comedic bits (I found the first game to be pretty funny...just the gameplay was terrible so I had to quit playing) but I would say a large majority of the people who watch these cartoons or play these games are not doing it for the humor, just like most people didn't watch Baywatch for the engaging story.

I'd like to point out that the girl in your 100th platinum game was an actual underage girl and not a girl who was of age but looked younger. I could also say that the game might be played for trophies and that most people on here play HM for the trophies but I would say a large majority of the people who watched that show or played the game are not doing it for the trophies, just like people didn't watch Baywatch for the engaging story... but that might just be reaching wouldn't it :P

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This topic started an arguement. So it basically created a problem where there wasn't one, unless people are normally arguing about this in the chatbox.

I think this is more of someone coming in and saying the things that were always said behind anime fan's back in the chat box especially about HDN, all he wants is for a conversation to happen to stop the "you HDN creep" and to understand the culture more~

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I think this is more of someone coming in and saying the things that were always said behind anime fan's back in the chat box especially about HDN, all he wants is for a conversation to happen to stop the "you HDN creep" and to understand the culture more~

I was talking about people arguing about this topic in the chatbox.

 

So already this has caused that arguement and people are already disagreeing about the games here. Its only a matter of time before someone loses their cool.

 

People should be free to enjoy the games they like in peace and not have people judge them for it. That is all that needs to be said and done.

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Did you know that the age of consent in Japan is 13? Might help in understanding why there are lots of sexualized young teenagers in Japanese things, it's acceptable there. However not so acceptable in many western countries. So characters have their ages upped to, usually 16/18+ for western released. Just one of the many cultural differences people find it difficult at times to understand.

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I am relatively new to these forums but what I will say is that from the first moment that I started to read here it became quickly apparent that there was a very healthy anime appreciation society here. Which was great.

After several days of further reading the surface began to get scratched and beneath it I could see that there was distinct groups of people here...

Those who like anime.

Those who like anime and hentai included.

Those who think the above two are just the same and are all perverts.

And those who don't understand any of it and think its all just nuts.

Now a lot of the posts I see here by anime fans are very defensive, it is as though they know they are going to get bombasted the moment that they click the 'post' button, and when they do get mocked (however slightly) they quickly invade that persons profile and rate them down, this can happen by numerous people with their 'friends of friends' all joining in... when you offend one anime fan you seem to offend a whole horde, treading on a bees nest if you like.

My opinion is that if someone thinks all anime is pervy and just under aged porn then that's ok... I don't see why it matters what anyone else thinks to be honest.

It is what you want it to be.

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Did you know that the age of consent in Japan is 13? 

You shouldn't have said that =D Now all arguments will not make sense =D

 

 

 

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Shit, why is my favorite character the smallest/youngest, nyu?

 

Because Sawashiro Miyuki is godly xD

 

hats off 2 u op

I would appreciate if you tried to speak properly :awesome: :awesome: :awesome:

 

Since it's topic about talking, you know? :P

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