Dead or Alive Extreme not getting Localized because of SJW?

[KiLLER--HZ--7]

This is one of the most stupid games I've ever seen, probably only puberty kids or 40+ yrs old virgins will buy this, so however ... 

[LeiFangFan85]

Anita Sarkeesian, Zoe Quinn, and the rest of the other feminazis are some of the worst things to ever happen in gaming besides annualized franchises, rushed, and broken games. This just saddens me as a fan of the Dead or Alive series, even though the game is considered non-canon to the main storyline. Not to mention no Leifang means no buy for me. Hitomi is nothing without her IMHO.

[Zenpai]

*Sigh*...

 

WARNING: Heavy ranting follows.

 

 

So... Koei Tecmo is afraid there'll be backlash, so they just... don't localize the game. Huh. Now that's smart and totally justified. As if the game is so controversial that bringing it over would be enough to actually make them lose money. Right. Their sales and marketing analysts must be real geniuses.

 

Honestly, I don't care about this game. I had never even heard about it before all this controversy, and still have no intent to buy it. But honestly, all these Social Justice Warriors and this political correctness have gone way too far. To think people have gotten so annoying that developers don't even want to try localizing the game.

 

I'm "offended" by the game. So I'm going to annoy the publisher, the developer and everyone on the Internet until they see the way I see and things work the way I think they should work. Because screw other people, what they think and their views on the matter.

 

 

Honestly, people these days think "being offended" and "not liking" or "not agreeing with" something is the exact same thing. I'm going to break it down to you, shall I?

 

 

Being offended: outrage at an insult, i.e. something made or said purposefully to disrespect yourself, the ones close to you or a group you belong to.

 

Not liking: not being to someone's tastes.

 

Not agreeing with: having a different opinion or point of view.

 

 

Insults are pretty much objective. Normally, you can easily tell when someone's being purposefully disrespectful and just wants to actually make a dent. This game is not it. This is just a game with pretty girls in bikinis. You know, the very same outfits women bring to pools or beaches of their own free will, without anyone batting an eye. Why is it so wrong for a game to portray them? Especially considering... they're fictional characters. They're not anyone that actually exists (and I'm pretty much sure no one would make this much of a fuss over actual real women posing like this).

 

Again, this game is not an insult to anyone. This game contains portrayals that some people don't like or disagree with. Well, guess what? That's what it means to live in a free country. People will have different opinions from you. Just as you are allowed to say your own, they're also entitled to say their own, no matter how much you may disagree with them.

 

Insults are not okay. No one should have to deal with being disrespected. However, people need to make a distinction between being actually offended and just not liking something, which is the case here. Very rarely (if ever) is censorship an excuse for anything.

 

I fully agree with Tech Review USA. If you don't like it, then just speak with your wallet and don't buy it. That is no excuse to just force your own worldview down everyone's throats and preventing them from having the option to do something you wouldn't do.

 

 

*Whew*

 

 

*Rant over*

Edited November 25, 2015 by jrdemr

[Superstarmaste1r]

At least there is Youtube around where people can just watch the game play where that is just better in my opinion really. And also watching private paradise videos is better too where simply for the west of the fighting game of DOA. Just play the recent game for DOA where that is a better deal for it and watch my matches for Last Round where it is more exciting than DOAX3 I guess.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Superstarmaste1r

[Tosmasta00]

You guys take it the wrong way. They actually did us a big favor =D

Now there's no other choice but to import, thus, eliminate any possibility censorship the localized version could have.

We should actually be glad

Now KT does not need to waste money trying to tone down it to pass American laws.

And they can work on Atelier :awesome:

 

 

Don't worry, we all planned to import it

Also, they are all 18.

Not that it matters to you

 

Well from that point of view you are right.

Also i read the JP version will have ENG sub so it's basicly like a localized version anyway.

[StrickenBiged]

Pornographic movies and art are legal. I don't see why it should be any different with games. 

 

After violence, pornographic games are probably the next taboo the industry will have to overcome. 

 

(Yes, I know there are probably niche sites I can go to now to play pornographic games. I'm thinking about the mainstream.)

[TooruPT]

Yeah, DOAX3 never had a chance. But I don't buy the whole "SJWs dun want game noone gets game" talk. I believe KT would just go fuck it and release it in the west anyway, were it not for a little detail.

 

 

Marie and Honoka ended up at the top of the DOAX3 popularity poll (yeah not really a poll yadda yadda) by a landslide so KT was pretty much forced to put them in the game. Honoka wouldn't be an issue but there's no way they'd get away with Marie, "she's 18 trust us!" would fly about as well as a bathtub full of rocks. I believe she's quite popular over here too so replacing/removing her would probably piss the fans off anyway.

 

So having the option to play the japanese version in full english is the best (and only) solution to avoid pissing people off. SJWs don't get their knickers in a twist, non jp speaking fans get to play the game in english.

[PREDRAG-K]

I personally don't care about this game. I only like the DOA fighting games. But developers shouldn't give a shit what "SJWs" say about their games. Those people were never going to buy the game. All they do is post on Tumblr about how video game characters are showing too much skin, therefore all gamers sexist. These people should never be taken seriously, and should be totally ignored by developers.

Fans in the west who wanted this game are now screwed, because a bunch of whiny internet "feminists" who don't actually play video games decide what should and shouldn't be in video games. That's wrong in every way.

[Vicodin_HP]

Can you hear that?

It sounds like the world regressing.

2015 - What a time to be alive.

[rusty1027]

Looking forward to the thoughtful and mature discourse that will no doubt follow the comment about "social justice warriors" taking away another opportunity to ruin game controllers with nosebleeds.

 

Also, if people are mad about not getting the chance to ogle underage Japanese girls in bikinis in a beach setting, let me remind everyone that Senran Kagura Estival Versus is still coming out here in the West any month now.

 

What's with the hostility? It's just a video game. There's literally no reason for you to be so passive-aggressive toward people who like these kinds of games.

Yes. It's just a video game. There is no reason for anyone to cause a big ruckus over it that causes developers to not formally localize it.

There is no reason for anybody to force their moral code on products that are designed for personal enjoyment. This is especially true regarding games developed by a different nation of people.

 

 

When you have to frame your defense with the statement "It's not considered illegal/weird in Japan!", you've kind have already lost the battle before it started.

 

I disagree. You should never judge foreign art (or most things, really) by your own ethnic/national standards. Especially if there's zero evidence to support that what another nation is doing is harmful on a global scale, or hurting the people within that culture. This kind of judgment is ethnocentrism, which is actually harmful.

Acknowledging that different cultures have different views of what's right and what's wrong is a mature way of looking at the world.

Edited November 25, 2015 by rusty1027

[Remilia Scarlet]

When you have to frame your defense with the statement "It's not considered illegal/weird in Japan!", you've kind have already lost the battle before it started.

I'm not framing it in any sort of way. It's NOT illegal in Japan. The age of consent is 16 in Japan. You're trying to criticize a game from a western viewpoint, which is absolutely backwards logic.

[damon8r351]

What's with the hostility? It's just a video game. There's literally no reason for you to be so passive-aggressive toward people who like these kinds of games.

Yes. It's just a video game. There is no reason for anyone to cause a big ruckus over it that causes developers to not formally localize it.

There is no reason for anybody to force their moral code on products that are designed for personal enjoyment. This is especially true regarding games developed by a different nation of people.

 

 

 

 

I disagree. You should never judge foreign art (or most things, really) by your own ethnic/national standards. Especially if there's zero evidence to support that what another nation is doing is harmful on a global scale, or hurting the people within that culture. This kind of judgment is ethnocentrism, which is actually harmful.

Acknowledging that different cultures have different views of what's right and what's wrong is a mature way of looking at the world.

I'm not framing it in any sort of way. It's NOT illegal in Japan. The age of consent is 16 in Japan. You're trying to criticize a game from a western viewpoint, which is absolutely backwards logic.

 

I think subtlety and sarcasm might be lost on you two.

[rusty1027]

I think subtlety and sarcasm might be lost on you two.

 

The joke wasn't crafted very well despite all the tools the English language provides, so if you weren't being serious it's easy for that to be lost on people.

[damon8r351]

The joke wasn't crafted very well despite all the tools the English language provides, so if you weren't being serious it's easy for that to be lost on people.

 

Tally another unwitting endorsement for implementation of the Sarcasm Font.

Edited November 25, 2015 by damon8r351

[rusty1027]

Tally another unwitting endorsement for implementation of the Sarcasm Font.

 

There is no need! You just need a couple of key words, and maybe some italics. For example:

 

It's definitely a good idea for someone to verbally abuse or attack game developers for making games they don't like. Especially if they don't like a game because of its different cultural influences.

[damon8r351]

There is no need! You just need a couple of key words, and maybe some italics. For example:

 

It's definitely a good idea for someone to verbally abuse or attack game developers for making games they don't like. Especially if they don't like a game because of its different cultural influences.

 

If you'd read the thread, you'd eventually find the reason why I disagree with using italics for sarcasm.

[acasser]

I've never understood why companies fall all over themselves to try and please groups of people who (1) aren't their consumers, (2) aren't likely to be their consumers in the future, and (3) aren't likely to consume their product/service even if the demanded changes are made.  When you turn away from those people who are already supporting you to make changes that may (or may not) attract a completely different crowd, you risk being the fool in the chinese proverb who chases two hares (and winds up with neither).

 

I've never understood why people/companies/whoever gives this sort of attention to hit-and-run "outraged activists for hire".  First of all, I'd be very skeptical of their professed numbers:  the media will grossly overstate or understate the numbers of a given group based on their bias, and it's not very difficult to manufacture the illusion of a great followership through e-mails and FaceBook and all that using things like bots.  And once the "controversy" in question is over and the protesters are mollified, many of them will simply carve another notch on their belt and move to the next perceived outrage that demands "corrective action" and ignore whatever it is that they were just protesting in the previous breath.

 

Then again, there are all sorts of things that I no longer seem to understand about the world these days.  I take it as a sign that I'm middle-aged.

[Satoshi Ookami]

Fans in the west who wanted this game are now screwed, because a bunch of whiny internet "feminists" who don't actually play video games decide what should and shouldn't be in video games. That's wrong in every way.

No they aren't.

As has been mentioned many times in this thread, since Asian version is subbed, there is nothing preventing western fans from getting the game.

 

Yeah, DOAX3 never had a chance. But I don't buy the whole "SJWs dun want game noone gets game" talk. I believe KT would just go fuck it and release it in the west anyway, were it not for a little detail.

 

 

Marie and Honoka ended up at the top of the DOAX3 popularity poll (yeah not really a poll yadda yadda) by a landslide so KT was pretty much forced to put them in the game. Honoka wouldn't be an issue but there's no way they'd get away with Marie, "she's 18 trust us!" would fly about as well as a bathtub full of rocks. I believe she's quite popular over here too so replacing/removing her would probably piss the fans off anyway.

 

So having the option to play the japanese version in full english is the best (and only) solution to avoid pissing people off. SJWs don't get their knickers in a twist, non jp speaking fans get to play the game in english.

Forced? Heh? =D Marie Rose has been the most popular DOA character since her introduction in Ultimate.

Removing her from any game would be pretty much burying the DOA franchise all together.

Also, looks 12, since people tend to say anime characters look 12, 13 is probably too much

Edited November 25, 2015 by Satoshi Ookami

[Ruliya]

The PR team are geniuses. Make a game 'taboo' and everyone will want it.

[RKuzu5]

Meh, well I guess I will just import it then from Japan. Problem Solved.

[Satoshi Ookami]

Meh, well I guess I will just import it then from Japan. Problem Solved.

From Asia if you want subs

[Kashiyuka]

It's worrying that they actually listened to these delusional fools.  I'm not really a fan of this franchise but it's still annoying to see this happen and the hassle it will bring western fans.

 

These self-proclaimed 'feminists' could be worrying about sexism still present in places such as the Middle East, but no, instead they squander their energy on the real problem here - virtual tits!  Pathetic.

[NotAFoxAnymore]

You watch ReviewTechUSA also? Awesome! 

Yeah I don't agree with SJW complaining about DOA. DOA is all about some nice TNA. People have been depicted in different ways in all media be it in literature, movies, video games etc. Just because there are women playing volleyball in bikinis doesn't mean we should get angry. It boggles my mind when there is always going to be "someone" or "some group" that has to get oversensitive about anything that might seem even mildly offensive nowadays and ruins it for everyone else with their BS propaganda. It's idiotic. 

 

Off topic but...your signature

[Boooda]

Lol, why the fuck does japan care about US censorship so much? The people who buy their games know what they are getting, and the people who complain never had any intention of playing it. 

[Amber__Kate]

Off topic but...your signature

 

Oh thank you! I appreciate it buddy! Danny is the best!