MD_91 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Infected Elite said: snip You can think what you want of Roman as a performer (he put me to sleep for years until the heel turn finally made him watchable for me) but the last part of your comment is probably worth editing Edited July 7, 2021 by MD_91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 56 minutes ago, MD_91 said: You can think what you want of Roman as a performer (he put me to sleep for years until the heel turn finally made him watchable for me) but the last part of your comment is probably worth editing happy? he's still not watchable. Vince is too stupid to let his show be adult..He caters to these idiotic fans who are forced to believe Roman is unbeatable. Just like Cena got crammed down peoples throats before. I can think of 15+ stars far more talented than Roman and Drew and if Vince had guts and let the wrestlers be free in the ring he could have a much better product. A past survivor series, best match was Cole vs Dunne bar none. You know why? HHH just went over the finish with them and told them go out there and steal the show. As for the 15+ better than Roman(Especially in the ring!, anyone can get a mouthpiece for manager) but in no order Adam Cole, AJ Styles, Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, Randy Orton, The Fiend, Charlotte Flair ffs, Johnny Gargano, Daniel Bryan (tho hes done for now), Cesaro, Shinsuke Nakamura, Aleister Black, Finn Balor. If i include wrestlers in other promotions its much more. My point is Vince could make a ton of money pushing any of these guys and hell, take chances. But whatever. Roman 4 life right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackmadrox Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 20 hours ago, Rozalia1 said: She likely has come back to more money, Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia1 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Roman Reigns is a good promo. Works good in the ring without any silliness. Has the "look". Has good size. Is experienced at a major level. Not the youngest by this point but still has many years in the tank. Has major levels of credibility. If your thing is you don't like Roman then okay whatever, but to make out as if he is bad is nonsense. On 07/07/2021 at 11:17 PM, jackmadrox said: Exactly. Well, with the money has come more entertainment I'd say. She recently drove Dave Meltzer crazy with a comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackmadrox Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 57 minutes ago, Rozalia1 said: Well, with the money has come more entertainment I'd say. She recently drove Dave Meltzer crazy with a comment. Have you watched RAW at all in the last month? Besides from the viewership dipping below a million viewers, the show is god awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia1 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 3 hours ago, jackmadrox said: Have you watched RAW at all in the last month? Besides from the viewership dipping below a million viewers, the show is god awful. It is RAW, of course it is awful. Why do people on this thread and the other one keep bringing up RAW? Even big WWE fans will tell you that RAW is crap. Obviously I know it is because bringing up Smackdown would be a mistake. Anyway I didn't mean entertaining on the show itself, though Vega ain't even on RAW just so you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locutus442 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Learned earlier today that "Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff has passed away at the age of 71. https://www.tmz.com/2021/07/12/wwe-hall-of-famer-paul-mr-wonderful-orndorff-dead-at-71-years-old/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Krid Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 8 hours ago, jackmadrox said: Have you watched RAW at all in the last month? Besides from the viewership dipping below a million viewers, the show is god awful. You're being kind. Utterly unwatchable is more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk_lp_him Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Shotzi lost her surname. I really hate when the old man butchers names. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepeaguy83 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I haven't watched American pro wrestling in 20+ years. I enjoy watching WWE and WCW matches from the 80s and 90s eras on youtube, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious Fury Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 5 hours ago, thepeaguy83 said: I haven't watched American pro wrestling in 20+ years. I enjoy watching WWE and WCW matches from the 80s and 90s eras on youtube, though. You haven't missed too much in terms of American promotions. All the best stuff was throughout those eras up to the mid 00's in my view. Like you I'll sometimes stick on a old PPV or something in the background from time to time. I love WWF/WCW between 1996 to 1998. I wasn't even a fan at that time, I just really enjoyed that timeframe for wrestling watching it back as I've gotten older. Great stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 13 hours ago, sk_lp_him said: Shotzi lost her surname. I really hate when the old man butchers names. Most promoters wouldn't want a face with the name "Blackheart". Yes yes, Punk Rock or whatever, but such a name in wrestling is suited for heels like Owen "The Blackhart". Vince is 50-50ish on his name removals and I'd say this one is one that isn't a bad choice. 1 hour ago, GloriousFury9414 said: You haven't missed too much in terms of American promotions. All the best stuff was throughout those eras up to the mid 00's in my view. Like you I'll sometimes stick on a old PPV or something in the background from time to time. I love WWF/WCW between 1996 to 1998. I wasn't even a fan at that time, I just really enjoyed that timeframe for wrestling watching it back as I've gotten older. Great stuff! Literally missed the era of John Cena. Granted, not great at times yes (though much of that out of Cena's hands, not like you can blame the Authority saga on him), but John Cena may well go down as the last big wrestling star so it is certainly something notable to miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious Fury Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rozalia1 said: Literally missed the era of John Cena. Granted, not great at times yes (though much of that out of Cena's hands, not like you can blame the Authority saga on him), but John Cena may well go down as the last big wrestling star so it is certainly something notable to miss. Absolutely, although Cena was on his way to becoming a household name by the mid 00's so guess it's kinda covered. Guess If I'm being specific I'd say around 2006/2007 as by that point WWE had established the last wrestlers who were popular to the mainstream in Cena and Batista as key figures in the promotion (well Batista is debatable being known in the mainstream, but certainly has done well in Hollywood), and was generally watchable. Wrestling has had some decent moments and events even in the last few years or so, just infrequently. Edited July 15, 2021 by GloriousFury9414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepeaguy83 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, GloriousFury9414 said: You haven't missed too much in terms of American promotions. All the best stuff was throughout those eras up to the mid 00's in my view. Like you I'll sometimes stick on a old PPV or something in the background from time to time. I love WWF/WCW between 1996 to 1998. I wasn't even a fan at that time, I just really enjoyed that timeframe for wrestling watching it back as I've gotten older. Great stuff! The nWo shoots and matches crack me up to this day. Good times. I also missed the opportunity to watch New Jack perform. I would've liked to have seen him in matches back then. He's a new favourite of mine now. Edited July 15, 2021 by thepeaguy83 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Krid Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 12 hours ago, thepeaguy83 said: I also missed the opportunity to watch New Jack perform. I would've liked to have seen him in matches back then. He's a new favourite of mine now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepeaguy83 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) I know about his passing. Shame for his loved ones. I like some of his old work on youtube vids. Edited July 16, 2021 by thepeaguy83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckallmighty Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Its nice having the crowd back.. The mixed reactions were missed. Maybe the ratings will jump back up a little now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia1 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 So, Karrion Kross losing his debut match to Jeff Hardy, a man who has been losing all year, not even being able to get a victory over one of Jinder's stooges. Now yes, losing your debut match isn't as devastating as people think. John Cena, Charlotte, so forth lost their debut matches and obviously it did them no harm. However, with Kross being NXT, it seems yet another shot from Vince at a promotion he owns. If he ain't happy then fire HHH from his position and hire someone to do NXT how he feels it should be done. Another possible sign of Vince shooting at NXT is Ryker who was part of a hardly pushed group in NXT, and out of said group he fired the two that had more stock in NXT, while keeping the one with the least, currently even putting him over Elias, a favourite of his who wasn't a favourite in NXT and so instantly it seems became a favourite of Vince. As for Cena. Happy to see him of course, but damn... really going to do this shooting stuff again against Roman... I mean, at least this time Roman is a heel and you can somewhat justify in story the whole "protected thing", I mean he has guys constantly cheating for him and has had things like getting to defend his title right after his challenger is done winning the opportunity (something ironically Cena himself has done as a face). We'll see how Roman shoots back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SelectiveGamer Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 AND NEW RAW Women's Champion... Almost a Super Hero... NIKKI A.S.H.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SelectiveGamer Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Double post but I don't care. Rumors are circulating that Daniel Bryan is '100% locked in' to signing with AEW and supposedly there are ongoing negotiations with CM Punk. In other words... it's the final nails in WWE's coffin. Wonderful. ? I'm spiteful and petty so I'll probably just do a personal boycott of AEW and never watch it ever again if it becomes the only company to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk_lp_him Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 11 hours ago, SelectiveGamer said: Double post but I don't care. Rumors are circulating that Daniel Bryan is '100% locked in' to signing with AEW and supposedly there are ongoing negotiations with CM Punk. In other words... it's the final nails in WWE's coffin. Wonderful. I'm spiteful and petty so I'll probably just do a personal boycott of AEW and never watch it ever again if it becomes the only company to watch You can't be serious about this WWE going out of business, right? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia1 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 And we have the result of Vince's recent trip to actually see what is actually in NXT. A nixing of the whole "third brand" thing, further confirmation of this being Charlotte losing 2 reigns as the NXT ones are no longer counted as a "World title" in WWE's eyes. Does it have something to do with NXT not stopping AEW? Many might say so but honestly I think Vince has legitimately not seen anything from NXT and couldn't believe how terrible a job HHH is doing in his eyes, note that it has been quite some time since Vince himself has actually personally handled the signing of talents so when a NXT guy gets sent up to RAW/Smackdown that will likely bring with it their first meeting with Vince. NXT is there to give experience to and develop largely young talents for the WWE. Dusty Rhodes who was involved in early NXT did that, supplementing the show with a few Indy guys. HHH meanwhile filled it with Indy guys and made it into his own private Super Indy and that goes completely against what is good for Vince and by extension the WWE. 17 hours ago, SelectiveGamer said: Double post but I don't care. Rumors are circulating that Daniel Bryan is '100% locked in' to signing with AEW and supposedly there are ongoing negotiations with CM Punk. In other words... it's the final nails in WWE's coffin. Wonderful. I'm spiteful and petty so I'll probably just do a personal boycott of AEW and never watch it ever again if it becomes the only company to watch Calm yourself mate. WWE won't be going out of business and AEW getting those two guys if it happens won't mean much outside an initial jump. Punk has little stock. Bryan is excellent yes but talk is he wants to do work across the world and not tie himself down to one specific company so who knows, he might appear on AEW for a couple of weeks and then show up on NXT/Smackdown before going to Japan, Mexico, Britain, you get the picture. As for the last comment, well, you wouldn't be the only one. When WCW went out of business much of their fans exited wrestling entirely as their wrestling was gone. AEW and the Indies might talk anti-WWE but they know that WWE going down would be a devastating blow to the industry and themselves too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SelectiveGamer Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Sure. Whatever you all say. The fact of the matter is if it happens... I'm done. Completely. I absolutely refuse to watch AEW only if it becomes the only company to watch. I'd rather quit watching wrestling than be forced to watch AEW only. End of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locutus442 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Jeff Hardy has tested positive for Covid-19. https://www.pwtorch.com/site/2021/07/25/jeff-hardy-tests-positive-for-covid-19/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia1 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 On 26/07/2021 at 5:22 PM, locutus442 said: Jeff Hardy has tested positive for Covid-19. https://www.pwtorch.com/site/2021/07/25/jeff-hardy-tests-positive-for-covid-19/ https://www.pwmania.com/karrion-kross-was-reportedly-going-to-lose-once-again-to-jeff-hardy-on-wwe-raw I thought at first "well there goes Karrion getting his win back", but apparently Jeff was going to beat him again so this did Karrion a favour... well, if true. This seems one of those news put out there to rile up marks. I mean if the idea is that Karrion is going to keep losing... why swap to beating a guy just because the orginial guy to win got sick? Now I suppose you could argue that it is just how much of a loser Keith Lee is now or something... but not buying that on just the back of him getting beaten by Lashley and now Karrion. Sure, Lee got eradicated and all, but Kofi even more so. For a year+ now Lashley has been unstoppable and squashing people. Anybody remember the series with Riddle where Lashley squashed him again and again? Riddle is hardly a jobber post all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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