Popular Post DownloaderBizz Posted January 24, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) Do you love this game but are having a hard time earning the flawless run trophies? Here I will share some probably already well known techniques that will make things a little easier, specifically for the first 'hard' run 'BLOOD CLOT BOY' which requires you to beat the Hospital Dark World without dying- This trophy is a rare GOLD trophy, you would enjoy having this in your collection. The picture of this trophy is also very cool. First, there are a couple of hidden rules which you should already know about this game: 1. With the exception of a few painful levels, Super Meat Boy rewards the speediest course- After you play this game at length you will notice that certain obstacles (enemies, saw blades, moving platforms) will be in convenient positions as you bolt through the level. A good measure of whether or not you are on this course is by attaining the A+ speed rank at the end of the level. Finishing quickly also saves your time! 2. The controls are the best features of this game and is what separates it from titles like Kung Fu Rabbit- Meat boy himself is the best character to use for all levels in my opinion (that's why the final chapter is the hardest and limited to meat boy controls), if you master control over his speed and fluid maneuverability (from walls, in air, and on platforms) you should overcome most of this games obstacles with confidence. 3. Prepare for long continuous practice runs; other characters are there for convenience- If you are sure to game for a few hours, have a treat by your side (I prefer a club soda and some chips). Your motivation will grow as you begin to single out levels you mastered in your practice runs. Once your are confident in beating the individual levels, its up to repetition, diligence, club soda, and chips. If you are playing on a PS4 then enhance your motivation by recording your runs. Other characters are extremely useful for certain levels, but mastering the single jack of all trades character meat boy will place you on a higher pedestal than the plebeians who switch characters in flawless runs (not really). 4. Are you using the game pad correctly?- This is coming from me who played through meat boy using the keyboard. Ill let you in on a little secret, a reason why the keyboard trumped my ps1 controller which I used for gaming on my PC. It is because I can easily put two fingers of my right hand on each of the left and right buttons at the same time. This is important because you need to be able to more quickly change directions at many points in the game. So for people holding the PS4 controller, despite the arrogant notion of some individuals about using directional buttons for 2D platformers, rely now on YOUR LEFT HAND THUMB, and the ANALOGUE STICK. If you feel bad using it, it will take a few days to get used to. The sprint button, preferably , should almost constantly be held. Tips for overcoming each level (numbered 1 to 20 and not 2-1x to 2-20x for convenience): 1: requires everything basic you've learned from the forest dark world. If you are uncomfortable playing this level then you have not embraced meat boy's fluid controls yet. To master the controls, the most important thing is knowing your jumps. 2: this level has a leap of faith which is very easy to perform if you practice the jump numerous times. If you are precise with meatboy's location during his fall (which can be controlled with higher precision using the analogue stick) then you can beat it easily. Switching to Jill will solve any problems you have with this level. 3: start immediately as the best saw blade positions are if you move the fastest as shown in the video. If you miss the mark, then playing this level slowly should also work. The toughest parts are the saw blades hitting you in the corners as you move one platform below, so before you move to the next corridor containing dual saw blades, make sure the dual saw blades has just finished or is about to finish its track. 4: the trick to using meat boy here requires that you stay in a specific fan flow for a very short time. This fan is the third one counting down from bandage girl. Switching to Pink Knight will solve any problems you have with this level. 5: requires forest light world expertise. Switching to the Kid will solve any problems you have with this level. 6: this level is perfect for Meat Boy's speed. The most frequent death is at the beginning where you will fall into a pit or be blown left to your death. The trick to avoid falling into the pit, if you are using meat boy, is to fall from your starting position without holding the left directional button; this way you will be able to tap jump onto the next platform and not into your death. 7: One of 3 hard levels in this run, the best time to move is at the start, as the blobs are just beginning to open your path. If you miss your mark, then playing very slowly will result in this level's completion. Switching to the Kid will solve any problems you have with this level. 8: this level only appears hard. If you take the upper route at the start, your jump should be 3/4's of the way down on the wall you are going to leap from. The next obstacle involves breakable walls which should be removed by jumping to and from while observing where the blobs on the left are moving as you jump back. Reaching bandage girl can be done with comfort as you have not 1 but 3 breakable squares to time your jumps. 9: You start mid-air in this level, so wait a second before moving. Meat Boy is the easiest to use if you slide down the walls to measure your jumps, otherwise switching to the Kid will solve any problems you have with this level. 10: No problem if you can handle Meat Boy's controls, otherwise switching to the Kid will solve any problems you have with this level. 11: When you collect the second key, you are standing on a single square's length platform. The moment the key lock that is directly above you (part of the unlocking cascade) opens, perform a high jump and push right at meat boy's zenith. Switching to the Kid will solve any problems you have with this level. 12: One of 3 hard levels in this run, some of you may enjoy going through this level very quickly (by letting the first ever saw blade that is launched chase you) but that will result in your tears as you realize that this meaningless death will require a replay of the first 11 levels. The saw blade chase in my experience requires one initial death which will load you into the level quicker which then allows you to surpass the saw blade. 13: requires forest light world expertise. 14: This level is easy if you are comfortable moving around using fans. Be cautious when passing the blobs close to the ceiling. When falling back down, use the fan slow your fall; if you wish to land on the square next to the fan then do so while moving downwards and not when youre floating upwards. 15: A good level to be cautious in, all obstacles are easy to overcome. The first wall jump which will make the level easier if performed in the first few seconds is the only hard part, and requires a long press with no directional input. 16: One of 3 hard levels in this run, if you get hit by the first 2 lasers then you are too impatient. The tough part here is the final jump off the horizontal platform before reaching bandage girl; it simply requires a little running space and not letting go of the direction before exiting the building. 17-20: if you managed 1 to 16 then you are home free if you are cautious. All obstacles are easy to pass and are well spaced, its just that there are more than usual. So if you fail this run in these levels... . Being cautious means staying on a vertical wall by jumping to and from the same wall if you are waiting for a laser to switch off, it means waiting for a blob to be out of your way, it means obtaining a key when there is no enemy in sight, it means being comfortable with the rhythm of the game's controls. feel free to add to the topic. I wrote this because the existing trophy guide doesn't explain certain aspects that can be confusing if just watched on video. Im not even sure if im allowed to post this topic due to the existing guide. Edited April 2, 2017 by DownloaderBizz youtube video that was linked in this post no longer exists. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAFoxAnymore Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Of course you're allowed to post this, any help is welcome. If you feel as though you can make a better/more detailed trophy guide, you can always make one and if it's of a higher standard then it'll be accepted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-Archon Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) Do you love this game but are having a hard time earning the flawless run trophies? Here I will share some probably already well known techniques that will make things a little easier, specifically for the first 'hard' run 'BLOOD CLOT BOY' which requires you to beat the Hospital Dark World without dying- *snip* feel free to add to the topic. I wrote this because the existing trophy guide doesn't explain certain aspects that can be confusing if just watched on video. Im not even sure if im allowed to post this topic due to the existing guide. Yeah, you can create a thread like this. You can also post a link to this in the guide comments or even ask the guide writer to join as a contributor to add things like these to the guide. Edited January 24, 2016 by Dragon-Archon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatmania2dxs Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Eh, meatboy being the best character for all levels is demonstrably false considering that later on in the game some obstacles can be completely by passed by "the kid" with his double jump. Also, there were some good video guides using the fly wrench for some more difficult levels for "missile boy" trophy that made it really easy to pass. Who wants to read how a level is done? Plenty of iron man video guides out there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojaveBallPython Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Thanks Dude this will help me on my future runs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownloaderBizz Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Eh, meatboy being the best character for all levels is demonstrably false considering that later on in the game some obstacles can be completely by passed by "the kid" with his double jump. Its true, my brother took much less time achieving this trophy as he switched to Jill and Kid for certain levels (thats why I emboldened who to switch to if youre having trouble for each level). The point of using meatboy everywhere is to be able to make cotton alley's flawless run less frightening. Edited January 25, 2016 by DownloaderBizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAFoxAnymore Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Eh, meatboy being the best character for all levels is demonstrably false considering that later on in the game some obstacles can be completely by passed by "the kid" with his double jump. Also, there were some good video guides using the fly wrench for some more difficult levels for "missile boy" trophy that made it really easy to pass. Who wants to read how a level is done? Plenty of iron man video guides out there already. Many people prefer text guides to video 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatmania2dxs Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Many people prefer text guides to video lol. Not for this game. There are so many tiny nuances in some of these perfect runs that cannot be easily translated into text. It's seriously way easier to look at the many great video runs that already exist. If you're looking to platinum the game, use the videos, start with levels that are difficult, and don't give up. That's the best advice I have. Its true, my brother took much less time achieving this trophy as he switched to Jill and Kid for certain levels (thats why I emboldened who to switch to if youre having trouble for each level). The point of using meatboy everywhere is to be able to make cotton alley's flawless run less frightening. Hmm, this is a good point. I think enough levels require using Meatboy that you will get used to the character by then. There are a few levels where you don't want to use meatboy for a perfect run. I'd say use Meatboy for just clearing all the levels first, then start switching up characters when you go for perfect runs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasDiasC Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) I've recorded all my No Death runs and upload them to youtube for those having problems, you can try watching my videos and the techniques/characters i prefer to use on each level https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCsX52vWlQRpOAAgLnVCkrg Edited January 25, 2016 by LucasDiasC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMDE Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 There are so many tiny nuances in some of these perfect runs that cannot be easily translated into text. It's seriously way easier to look at the many great video runs that already exist. If you're looking to platinum the game, use the videos, start with levels that are difficult, and don't give up. That's the best advice I have. In such cases, text guides can actually be pretty useful in my experience. ;p It's a bit like in N++, where you can actually see people's best replay of a level or episode, there you can turn on a setting to see people's button inputs on screen too. The button inputs can be very useful, because they tell a lot about what the player actually does rather than just what the character in the game does. This can help you perform the different actions much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatmania2dxs Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) In such cases, text guides can actually be pretty useful in my experience. ;p It's a bit like in N++, where you can actually see people's best replay of a level or episode, there you can turn on a setting to see people's button inputs on screen too. The button inputs can be very useful, because they tell a lot about what the player actually does rather than just what the character in the game does. This can help you perform the different actions much easier. Well, whatever floats your boat I guess. Just as an example, the difference between life and death on Cotten Alley dark level (6-x) is making sure you coast up the wall fast enough, then jump over the spinning gear on the same side of the wall. But the jump has to be a hard jump and you have to coast up just enough to land somewhere in the middle of the two locked key tiles. Then jump across to the other side, but it's sort of a weird jump. Start out as a hard jump, then go soft to land just right on the other side. Then jump to the other side, but not a hard or soft jump (medium jump?), because it makes it easier to start the rapid jumping when the level begins to narrow. I dunno, I feel like that's a bit hard to understand until you watch it happen on video because you can watch the maneuver happen in real time. If you die a lot you can ask, "Damn, where am I going wrong here?" Then watch the video and see that the person landed on a certain part of the level, twisted the character around to make a sequence of jumping easier, or made the character walk instead of run. Then there's the levels with multiple projectiles, how would you write a guide for that? Watching the route is way easier. Edited January 25, 2016 by Beatmania2dxs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMDE Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Well, whatever floats your boat I guess. Just as an example, the difference between life and death on Cotten Alley dark level (6-x) is making sure you coast up the wall fast enough, then jump over the spinning gear on the same side of the wall. But the jump has to be a hard jump and you have to coast up just enough to land somewhere in the middle of the two locked key tiles. Then jump across to the other side, but it's sort of a weird jump. Start out as a hard jump, then go soft to land just right on the other side. Then jump to the other side, but not a hard or soft jump (medium jump?), because it makes it easier to start the rapid jumping when the level begins to narrow. I dunno, I feel like that's a bit hard to understand until you watch it happen on video because you can watch the maneuver happen in real time. If you die a lot you can ask, "Damn, where am I going wrong here?" Then watch the video and see that the person landed on a certain part of the level, twisted the character around to make a sequence of jumping easier, or made the character walk instead of run. Then there's the levels with multiple projectiles, how would you write a guide for that? Watching the route is way easier. It's easy to understand for someone who has played the level several times and need help making it so they can beat it pretty much every time on first attempt. You usually know what to do, but it's just how to do it and how to make it easy to do it that is important. Edited January 25, 2016 by MMDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownloaderBizz Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 I've recorded all my No Death runs and upload them to youtube for those having problems, you can try watching my videos and the techniques/characters i prefer to use on each level https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCsX52vWlQRpOAAgLnVCkrg I love your Kid run of Hell lightworld, im not too familiar with this character as I want to stick with meatboy for my trophies, but seeing you pass all the elevator and moving platform levels is convincing me to start switching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasDiasC Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) I love your Kid run of Hell lightworld, im not too familiar with this character as I want to stick with meatboy for my trophies, but seeing you pass all the elevator and moving platform levels is convincing me to start switching. Thank you so much and good luck! The kid can make your runs a lot easier Edited January 27, 2016 by LucasDiasC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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