PooPooBlast Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Would feel bad if he was removed. Im against hacking but it's a trophy that requires no skill or time and prevents a plat cause the developers are lazy. Yeah. I agree. I only care if hackers are interfering with people in the leaderboards or are cheating to get there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornz0r Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 He should be removed, what's the point of trophy hunting if you hack trophies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade05143 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 He should be removed, what's the point of trophy hunting if you hack trophies? He hacked it cause the developer is too lazy to fix the server not because it was too difficult skill wise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornz0r Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) He hacked it cause the developer is too lazy to fix the server not because it was too difficult skill wise. So what you're basically saying is I could hack to get the platinum trophy for Lord of The Rings: Conquest since the servers have been down and that's okay, right? Well wrong, if you can't earn the trophies you can't it's simple as that. Edited October 20, 2016 by Bornz0r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade05143 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 So what you're basically saying is I could hack to get the platinum trophy for Lord of The Rings: Conquest since the servers have been down and that's okay, right? Well wrong, if you can't earn the trophies you can't it's simple as that. Wouldn't really say "pay it foward" is earned since there is no time or skill is involved. Don't know about LOTR: Conquest. Is it a game with a MP element or is it a SP game with a single online trophy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastflowdaman Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) As always, the line is difficult to draw and thus no exceptions are to be made. The real problem lies in the trophy QC. Sony should be the guys looking after this and in such cases like if the dev is dead - or better, in general - make sure that such trophies can still be unlocked. This should apply to all and any online trophies that are no longer achievable. Especially since they are taking money for online services. Edited October 20, 2016 by fastflowdaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade05143 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 As always, the line is difficult to draw and thus no exceptions are to be made. The real problem lies in the trophy QC. Sony should be the guys looking after this and in such cases like if the dev is dead - or better, in general - make sure that such trophies can still be unlocked. This should apply to all and any online trophies that are no longer achievable. Especially since they are taking money for online services. They don't even have to fix the server just patch it so if you attempt to do it, it pops. Like Saints Row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastflowdaman Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 They don't even have to fix the server just patch it so if you attempt to do it, it pops. Like Saints Row. True in this case. But I'm talking about, let's say, Resistance 2 and all the other unachievables as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade05143 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 True in this case. But I'm talking about, let's say, Resistance 2 and all the other unachievables as well. That had a MP element so no. DarkSiders 2 just has a single online for a SP game. I have Resistance 2, never finished the long MP grind and wouldn't condone hacking any of the multiple online trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastflowdaman Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 That had a MP element so no. DarkSiders 2 just has a single online for a SP game. I have Resistance 2, never finished the long MP grind and wouldn't condone hacking any of the multiple online trophies. My points are #1 Hacking is never legit and shouldn't ever be. No exceptions. See #181 #2 Sony need to make sure all and any trophies are always achievable as long as the PSN exists and money has beed paid (F2P games could perhaps be excluded). I do not care how they'd do it, it is not my problem as a customer, but their responsibility in terms of customer service. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade05143 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 My points are #1 Hacking is never legit and shouldn't ever be. No exceptions. See #181 #2 Sony need to make sure all and any trophies are always achievable as long as the PSN exists and money has beed paid (F2P games could perhaps be excluded). I do not care how they'd do it, it is not my problem as a customer, but their responsibility in terms of customer service. Just saying I sympathize with the guy. But if Sony did its job as you said, there would be no need. And I don't even think it's like Resistance where you had warning. Server went down and they never fixed it. Reminds me of Portal 2. It's why I stay away from online games as much as possible now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornz0r Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Wouldn't really say "pay it foward" is earned since there is no time or skill is involved. Don't know about LOTR: Conquest. Is it a game with a MP element or is it a SP game with a single online trophy? It's a single player game that has MP in it but the servers have been closed for nearly 6 years, what is the difference between this and getting Pay it Forward by cheating basically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskdocx Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Would feel bad if he was removed. Im against hacking but it's a trophy that requires no skill or time and prevents a plat cause the developers are lazy. Yeah. I agree. I only care if hackers are interfering with people in the leaderboards or are cheating to get there. Sorry, but no. I realize it sucks, but sometimes life sucks. If the trophy can't be earned, it can't be earned. If someone wants to hack it for their own profile, that's their business. But the moment you choose to do that, you do not belong on a leaderboard. I would love a 100% profile. I'm close, but I know I will never get there as the MUA 2 DLC has been delisted. Should I get to hack those trophies simply because it's not my fault that the DLC was removed? What about people who own the PS4 version of Super Stardust, and now have DLC on it that requires a $500 VR headset? That's not fair, can we let them hack those trophies? It's a trophy. It is what it is. Accept it, move on, push for a fix, start a new profile - lots of options, but hacking it isn't a justifiable one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornz0r Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Sorry, but no. I realize it sucks, but sometimes life sucks. If the trophy can't be earned, it can't be earned. If someone wants to hack it for their own profile, that's their business. But the moment you choose to do that, you do not belong on a leaderboard. I would love a 100% profile. I'm close, but I know I will never get there as the MUA 2 DLC has been delisted. Should I get to hack those trophies simply because it's not my fault that the DLC was removed? What about people who own the PS4 version of Super Stardust, and now have DLC on it that requires a $500 VR headset? That's not fair, can we let them hack those trophies? It's a trophy. It is what it is. Accept it, move on, push for a fix, start a new profile - lots of options, but hacking it isn't a justifiable one. Exactly the point I was trying to make, if you resort in hacking trophies you shouldn't even be on the same leaderboard with the same people that unlock trophies the legitimate way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 He hacked it cause the developer is too lazy to fix the server not because it was too difficult skill wise. Neither the developer nor the original publisher exist anymore. It was nice enough of Nordic to bring the servers back once already. Server went down and they never fixed it. Reminds me of Portal 2. Portal 2's online servers are working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade05143 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Neither the developer nor the original publisher exist anymore. It was nice enough of Nordic to bring the servers back once already. Would have been nice if they patched it instead Portal 2's online servers are working. Hasn't for me for two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PooPooBlast Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Sorry, but no. I realize it sucks, but sometimes life sucks. If the trophy can't be earned, it can't be earned. If someone wants to hack it for their own profile, that's their business. But the moment you choose to do that, you do not belong on a leaderboard. I would love a 100% profile. I'm close, but I know I will never get there as the MUA 2 DLC has been delisted. Should I get to hack those trophies simply because it's not my fault that the DLC was removed? What about people who own the PS4 version of Super Stardust, and now have DLC on it that requires a $500 VR headset? That's not fair, can we let them hack those trophies? It's a trophy. It is what it is. Accept it, move on, push for a fix, start a new profile - lots of options, but hacking it isn't a justifiable one. Fair enough. I see your point. Guess it's hard for me to not justify it given I've never been really affected by trophy hacking. I'm not really into trophy hunting that much and i was never really competitive( I dislike MP games in fact and like SP) so I see where you're coming from, by looking at your impressive trophy collection and earning them legit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastflowdaman Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Hasn't for me for two years They do. There's just a lot of hassle involved in getting it working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade05143 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 They do. There's just a lot of hassle involved in getting it working. Well I shouldn't have to go through a lot of hassle. Never buying a Valve game again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AARCT1C Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Sony need to make sure all and any trophies are always achievable as long as the PSN exists and money has beed paid (F2P games could perhaps be excluded). I do not care how they'd do it, it is not my problem as a customer, but their responsibility in terms of customer service. I have always said that there should be no mandatory online trophies for this very reason among others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade05143 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I have always said that there should be no mandatory online trophies for this very reason among others. Especially when the game has a single online trophy. At least patch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Well I shouldn't have to go through a lot of hassle. Never buying a Valve game again It's quite simple actually. When you bought your new copy of Portal 2 there was a code for a Steam version of the game in the box. You need to redeem your Steam code with the Steam account that's linked to your PSN account. After that you shouldn't have any problems connecting to PS3, PC, Mac or Linux players if you do this once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mournblade05143 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 It's quite simple actually. When you bought your new copy of Portal 2 there was a code for a Steam version of the game in the box. You need to redeem your Steam code with the Steam account that's linked to your PSN account. After that you shouldn't have any problems connecting to PS3, PC, Mac or Linux players if you do this once. Mine is digital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Mine is digital Interesting, didn't know it's available digitally on the US store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skateak Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I ended up saying screw it a long time ago and got the plat for the Deathinitive Edition. Maybe they will fix it now that they are branded as THQ Nordic but I wouldn't get my hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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