DaivRules Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 http://www.cnet.com/news/sonys-playstation-vue-cord-cutting-tv-service-goes-nationwide-now-starts-at-30-per-month/ So now that Playstation Vue starts at $30, has 55 channels, including ABC channels like Disney and ESPN, a built-in DVR and the ability to stream to 5 devices at once, is that enough for those of you who pay for your cable package to switch? While the Slim packages at $30 drop local broadcasts (although they are available to be streamed 24 hours after being broadcast), in any market Vue is available, a $20 antenna will likely pick them up live for free. I don't know about any of you, but I've had the same cable TV provider since 2003 and while I've had a dollar or two price increases over the years, this past year ESPN alone increased my cable portion almost $20. Sucks since I don't watch it and actually took it out of my channel lineup on my TiVo. Any of you tested the service in the last couple days with the nationwide (US) rollout? Any of you tempted to try it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlareXV Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I can't see Vue being a success if people weren't accepting of the MS Xbox media plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreakon13 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) If I could use this to get the channels: MSG based out of Buffalo, NY for HD Sabres (hockey/NHL) games and NBC/NBCSN, and AMC for live HD The Walking Dead... since those are basically the only reason I keep my cable service around and currently don't have HD channels for those (standard def sucks on a 55" HDTV btw)... I'd probably do it for that price. Finally cut the cord for good, since I've been trying to for a while. I don't think it has all of that though? EDIT: I see AMC on there actually, and I hear talk of local market channels. Where can I see a list of everything it offers? Edited March 17, 2016 by Dreakon13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quikdrawjoe Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) If I could use this to get the channels: MSG based out of Buffalo, NY for HD Sabres (hockey/NHL) games and NBC/NBCSN, and AMC for live HD The Walking Dead... since those are basically the only reason I keep my cable service around and currently don't have HD channels for those (standard def sucks on a 55" HDTV btw)... I'd probably do it for that price. Finally cut the cord for good, since I've been trying to for a while. I don't think it has all of that though? The lowest priced plan has AMC and NBCSN. MSG (I'm assuming on this one) and NBC are both local broadcast so you would just need an antenna (like http://www.cleartv.com/) to get those for free anyway. Network television includes (under various channel numbers): NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, The CW, and PBS. Edited March 17, 2016 by Quikdrawjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 I can't see Vue being a success if people weren't accepting of the MS Xbox media plans. What is that? Is that a cable-replacement DVR plan with all the options of Vue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreakon13 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) The lowest priced plan has AMC and NBCSN. MSG (I'm assuming on this one) and NBC are both local broadcast so you would just need an antennae to get those for free anyway. Interesting. I doubt an antenna would pull HD feeds, and I think MSG (Madison Square Garden) is a part of the cable package and wouldn't be one of the "basic" channels that an antenna could pick up, but I'm reading about local channels being a part of this eventually if not already depending on my area. I might have to keep an eye on it. Edited March 17, 2016 by Dreakon13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Interesting. I doubt an antenna would pull HD feeds, and I think MSG (Madison Square Garden) is a part of the cable package and wouldn't be one of the "basic" channels that an antenna could pick up, but I'm reading about local channels being a part of this eventually. I might have to keep an eye on it. Most people don't realize that broadcast channels come in at either 720p or 1080i, better than most people's compressed cable channels. See if you can find some old rabbit ears or pick up a cheap antenna and surprise yourself. Sounds like you're in an area that will not only pick up a lot more channels than you think, you might pick up the same Canadian channels I do as well. I had no idea what you were referring to when you said MSG, I assumed it was an asian food channel (Monosodium glutamate). If it is own network, no it's not part of any of the packages yet, but if you click on the 55 Channels link I put above, it'll take about 30 seconds to see if it's part of Vue. I take it back, I just looked and there is no way there will be enough demand outside a local area for MSG to get added into any Vue packages, although perhaps they might offer it as an add-on, like Showtime, if enough people say they want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryToxteth Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I've actually thought about it. I've had DirecTV for 10 years and their price packages have been creeping. Plus, all the add-on fees they assess jumps may bill up by 30%. With a PS3 and PS4 in my house, I would no longer have to pay DirecTV's outrageous pricing for multiple receivers. My questions for Vue subscribers are - is everything broadcast in HD? - is there a time limit on the DVR? I thought I saw somewhere that DVR'd items only stay for 30 days. - is Vue going to make the jump to 4k broadcasting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quikdrawjoe Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Interesting. I doubt an antenna would pull HD feeds, and I think MSG (Madison Square Garden) is a part of the cable package and wouldn't be one of the "basic" channels that an antenna could pick up, but I'm reading about local channels being a part of this eventually if not already depending on my area. I might have to keep an eye on it. Most people don't realize that broadcast channels come in at either 720p or 1080i, better than most people's compressed cable channels. See if you can find some old rabbit ears or pick up a cheap antenna and surprise yourself. Sounds like you're in an area that will not only pick up a lot more channels than you think, you might pick up the same Canadian channels I do as well. I had no idea what you were referring to when you said MSG, I assumed it was an asian food channel (Monosodium glutamate). If it is own network, no it's not part of any of the packages yet, but if you click on the 55 Channels link I put above, it'll take about 30 seconds to see if it's part of Vue. I take it back, I just looked and there is no way there will be enough demand outside a local area for MSG to get added into any Vue packages, although perhaps they might offer it as an add-on, like Showtime, if enough people say they want it. Looks like MSG is a local cable channel so you're right that it wouldn't be included. Similar to Root Sports in Pittsburgh although it has to be added to a package normally anyway. Network television is now Digital HD due to government requirements. Not sure how it compares to cable because I've never had cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlareXV Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 What is that? Is that a cable-replacement DVR plan with all the options of Vue? Yeah but to a limit. It was basically an add on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 I've actually thought about it. I've had DirecTV for 10 years and their price packages have been creeping. Plus, all the add-on fees they assess jumps may bill up by 30%. With a PS3 and PS4 in my house, I would no longer have to pay DirecTV's outrageous pricing for multiple receivers. My questions for Vue subscribers are - is everything broadcast in HD? - is there a time limit on the DVR? I thought I saw somewhere that DVR'd items only stay for 30 days. - is Vue going to make the jump to 4k broadcasting? https://www.playstation.com/en-us/network/vue/faq/ All High Definition content will be available in HD with adaptive bitrate streaming, so you will see the highest resolution your broadband allows. By adding your favorite shows to “My Shows”, you will automatically save them for up to 28 days after they air. Don't hold your breath on 4k. The overwhelming majority of content isn't 4k and the broadband speeds across the US are fairly abysmal with only pockets of exceptions. Yeah but to a limit. It was basically an add on. Sounds like it's nothing like Vue at all. I can't even find any information in Google for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofa King Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I may try it out since there's a 7 day free trial. Couldn't hurt to play around with it and see what it offers for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damon8r351 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Think I'll stick with the devil I know. I know what kind of evil to expect from Comcast. I'm used to it, have learned how to cope with it. I don't know what new brand of fell, ichor-stained deviltry Sony will bring to the television package business, but I do know two things: 1. It's there, gibbering maniacally in the shadows awaiting its big reveal, and 2. I don't aim to experience it on a personal level. Edited March 17, 2016 by damon8r351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMDE Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) In our country the state has it's own TV channels and radio etc. They actually got an app for PS4, where you can watch TV on their various channels, same goes the radio channels. But this is not all, depending on licensing, they also put most of the content they show up for viewing for weeks, months or ever afterwards. Even got series like Game of Thrones. This channel is not free, but anyone with a TV in my country got to pay for it. The app and the service etc, no extra fee and anyone where I come from can use it without paying any extra fee or anything. They of course make a lot of original content, in fact a good portion of what they show is original content, and rarely any reruns etc. But is this much the same thing really? Or is it just satellite TV? EDIT: yeah, it seems to be a similar thing, and they say it will have DVR functionality where it stores the episodes in the "cloud" (on their servers). I'm sure this is just the episodes being kept stored, just one copy for everyone. Edited March 17, 2016 by MMDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav9834 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I had it for a month(back when it was $10 more), and loved it! The only reason we switched back was because my family wanted lifetime channel which sony hasn't got yet. My biggest gripe? Shows/movies are shown vertically instead of horizontally in the guide as we're used to. That made things more difficult to learn. Besides that were switching again next month, saving $60 a month for a better service(imo after you learn it. I really hate the forced cable boxes, and yes we had tivo for a decade so I know there's alternatives) is nothing to snark at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Think I'll stick with the devil I know. I know what kind of evil to expect from Comcast. I'm used to it, have learned how to cope with it. I don't know what new brand of fell, ichor-stained deviltry Sony will bring to the television package business, but I do know two things: 1. It's there, gibbering maniacally in the shadows awaiting its big reveal, and 2. I don't aim to experience it on a personal level. TV (cable) is one of those things I keep for the wife. I had an antenna and TiVo before her and have been threatening to go back to it for some time. The recent price increases and addition to the family are just more motivation for me to do so, but if I can still give in to her demands and save some money, I'm considering it. The deviltry that you have predicted will likely stem from Sony Pictures and the fact that they own the distribution rights to a whole swath of content. Comcast may own NBC, but Sony owns much of the content *on* NBC. At the end of the day, I can drop TV (cable) at any point and not care. I like my ISP for their ISP-y stuff and I'll stick with them for that. In our country the state has it's own TV channels and radio etc. But is this much the same thing really? Or is it just satellite TV? The US has PBS, subsidized by all the other networks and broadcasts that for free. In addition all the local channels ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS and some others are broadcast for free as well. (Assuming you call watching commercials in exchange for shows as free.) Vue is television channels delivered over the internet instead of being broadcast over the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMDE Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) The US has PBS, subsidized by all the other networks and broadcasts that for free. In addition all the local channels ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS and some others are broadcast for free as well. (Assuming you call watching commercials in exchange for shows as free.) Vue is television channels delivered over the internet instead of being broadcast over the air. Ah, but this TV channel network I'm talking about shows absolutely no advertisement, of course other than like max 1 minute between each show about other shows the channel will show later. Edited March 17, 2016 by MMDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasondm300 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I tried the 7 day trial which is still going on, and I am seriously thinking of dropping Directv for this. It is about $50 cheaper for me, since I was going to go for the cheap package. The only 2 channels that I am saddened not to have is History and BBC America. However, I will probably get an Amazon Fire Stick that has those apps to watch Vikings and Orphan Black. On that note, does anyone have a Fire stick and can say what the quality is of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrickenBiged Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I'm not interested, even if it came over to us here in the UK. I don't watch live TV anymore. The catch-up services we have here show all the same shows almost immediately after they've aired, and I'm happy to wait for Netflix to get the ones I miss which are exclusive to one of the cable providers. Only thing I'd like to see is HBO Go here in the UK, but that'll never happen because of their deal with Sky, so it looks like I'm Blu-ray-ing any HBO shows I want to watch for the forseeable. That, or buying them over PSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Ah, but this TV channel network I'm talking about shows absolutely no advertisement, of course other than like max 1 minute between each show about other shows the channel will show later. Yes, exactly like PBS. That's why it's a different sentence than the other networks, who have commercials. PBS is completely free of commercials, except commercials of other shows on PBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMDE Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Yes, exactly like PBS. That's why it's a different sentence than the other networks, who have commercials. PBS is completely free of commercials, except commercials of other shows on PBS. But no PS4 app for it? =P I guess if it works in the web browser, it should be fine. Edited March 17, 2016 by MMDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 But no PS4 app for it? =P I guess if it works in the web browser, it should be fine. Sure does. PBS.org, no app needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMDE Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Sure does. PBS.org, no app needed. Works on PS4 too? Because not everything works all that well on PS4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbuk Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Even if this were available in the UK, I wouldn't use it. The only TV show I watch is Doctor Who, and even that has become... quite bad over the past few years (and I think BBC is free anyway?), so I wouldn't get any use out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Works on PS4 too? Because not everything works all that well on PS4. Yes, it does. Just watched some This Old House. You sure are hung up on this government tv thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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