VeldinX Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Are we trophy hunters or platinum hunters? I don't know why some people can't be content with just completing a game they like. Well for me it's because I have this on PS2 so like Gibbo said if they're lazy on the trophy front, I'll be lazy and just stick with my PS2 copy. It's not like these releases are cheap mind. £12 is too steep just so I can get 13 more trophies, especially when I bought the disc for only £1! That's why these PS2 releases really need platinums for me to jump on them, not to mention they are full games so I'd expect them to have anyway. Maybe there is no other way to integrate more trophies? Don't forget that this is a emulated PS2 disc image that runs through en emulator and not a proper PS4 remaster. They can only do so much by going through the memory values a game gives out to use it for certain trophy triggers. That's actually a really good point! I don't want it to be true of course but it would be an understandable reason. I'm sure this game has stats though so the trophies could be triggered from the game tracking those, like the GTA's would've done. Edited July 5, 2016 by dell9300 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigressLion Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I loved the Movie, and this is also one of my favorite Rockstar games. tis' shame it has no plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meacham Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Shame there's no platinum to be honest. However, I had so much fun on this game back in the day, definitely going to buy it at some point. Loved the movie also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobThanatos Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Well for me it's because I have this on PS2 so like Gibbo said if they're lazy on the trophy front, I'll be lazy and just stick with my PS2 copy. It's not like these releases are cheap mind. £12 is too steep just so I can get 13 more trophies, especially when I bought the disc for only £1! Sony has the final say on what can have a Platinum. The dev's for the Megaman Legacy collection responded on the subject saying Sony didn't think their game had enough content to warrant a platinum. Shortly after which, Goat Simulator released with a platinum. I don't know what Sony wants content wise. Point is, you can't blame Rockstar for being, "Lazy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeldinX Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Sony has the final say on what can have a Platinum. The dev's for the Megaman Legacy collection responded on the subject saying Sony didn't think their game had enough content to warrant a platinum. Shortly after which, Goat Simulator released with a platinum. I don't know what Sony wants content wise. Point is, you can't blame Rockstar for being, "Lazy". We are of the understanding that a small team at Sony makes the trophies for these PS2 releases though, with input from the original devs if possible. So if anything I'm branding Sony lazy here. They probably didn't take the time to work with Rockstar Toronto on these trophies hence why they're so lacklustre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellslikejavier Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Maybe there is no other way to integrate more trophies? Don't forget that this is a emulated PS2 disc image that runs through en emulator and not a proper PS4 remaster. They can only do so much by going through the memory values a game gives out to use it for certain trophy triggers. but there are many ps2 games on ps4 with a platinum: the gta trilogy, okage, bully, both dark cloud, rogue galaxy, manhunt, etc... many of them are even open world, which takes a lot from the console's memory and power, so i don't think adding trophies affects it that much. Edited July 5, 2016 by smellslikejavier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamagingRob Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Are we trophy hunters or platinum hunters? I don't know why some people can't be content with just completing a game they like. I mean, it won't stop me from playing a game. But coming from Xbox, Platinums are that big pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, you just don't get with achievement hunting. Gotta have my lucky charms, man. ;P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeldinX Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 but there are many ps2 games on ps4 with a platinum: the gta trilogy, okage, bully, both dark cloud, rogue galaxy, manhunt, etc... many of them are even open world, which takes a lot from the console's memory and power, so i don't think adding trophies affects it that much. I think he meant the way the trophies unlock for these PS2 games is the emulator reads the "disc" for specific cues and uses them to trigger trophies. The problem is they can only use cues that were originally present since they don't change the source code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cease2123 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 So on US psn store this is listed as playable on PS3 only. But according to this forum and the trophy list, this is a PS2 emulation on PS4. Can anyone confirm which system(s) this is playable on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 but there are many ps2 games on ps4 with a platinum: the gta trilogy, okage, bully, both dark cloud, rogue galaxy, manhunt, etc... many of them are even open world, which takes a lot from the console's memory and power, so i don't think adding trophies affects it that much. I think he meant the way the trophies unlock for these PS2 games is the emulator reads the "disc" for specific cues and uses them to trigger trophies. The problem is they can only use cues that were originally present since they don't change the source code. Exactly! They have to scan whatever the game writes in the RAM of the PS2 and check for certain values. And that value also has to be unique for that one condition that should unlock a trophy. Games nowadays are designed with these triggers in mind, but implementing them in a PS2 game can be tricky, especially if they can't touch the game itself. This link has been posted before when people discussed the Siren trophies: http://gamingbolt.com/dev-it-takes-2-3-months-just-to-add-trophies-for-ps2-emulation-comments-on-trophy-progression-tracker It offers a little bit of insight into the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide_Tortuga Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 So on US psn store this is listed as playable on PS3 only. But according to this forum and the trophy list, this is a PS2 emulation on PS4. Can anyone confirm which system(s) this is playable on? If you want to earn trophies, you will need to buy the PS4 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 So on US psn store this is listed as playable on PS3 only. But according to this forum and the trophy list, this is a PS2 emulation on PS4. Can anyone confirm which system(s) this is playable on? The version you are talking about is most likely the PS2 casslic version that only runs on PS3 and doesn't support trophies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cease2123 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 The version you are talking about is most likely the PS2 casslic version that only runs on PS3 and doesn't support trophies Ok yea that's what I thought. I guess the store just isn't updated yet. I'll check again later this afternoon for the PS4 version with trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellslikejavier Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 I think he meant the way the trophies unlock for these PS2 games is the emulator reads the "disc" for specific cues and uses them to trigger trophies. The problem is they can only use cues that were originally present since they don't change the source code. Exactly! They have to scan whatever the game writes in the RAM of the PS2 and check for certain values. And that value also has to be unique for that one condition that should unlock a trophy. Games nowadays are designed with these triggers in mind, but implementing them in a PS2 game can be tricky, especially if they can't touch the game itself. This link has been posted before when people discussed the Siren trophies: http://gamingbolt.com/dev-it-takes-2-3-months-just-to-add-trophies-for-ps2-emulation-comments-on-trophy-progression-tracker It offers a little bit of insight into the process. oh ok now i get it! that could be another reason too, but i still think that my theories about them releasing some of this ps2 games without a plat so they can release them faster and because maybe some of them doesn't have that much content to guarantee a plat might be correct too, alongside your theory. So on US psn store this is listed as playable on PS3 only. But according to this forum and the trophy list, this is a PS2 emulation on PS4. Can anyone confirm which system(s) this is playable on? i see that others have already answered your question, but just to be clear: this ps2 games on ps4 has trophy support, 1080p resolution, remote play, share play and streaming capabilities. meanwhile ps2 games on ps3 doesn't have any of that, and i think they only support 720p resolution if i'm correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finozzi1696 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Shame there's no plat, but I'm mostly waiting for Rockstar to release both of their GTA Stories: Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories. Never got the chance to play them, and I'm sure they will earn a lot of money with a re-release. At this point, and seeing how many Rockstar's PS2 games we are getting, I do believe we will be seeing both GTA Stories, Red Dead Revolver, Midnight Club, etc on PS4 soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniezutton Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Considering the amount of content in this game for the year of release, I'm surprised there's not additional trophies (including a platinum). The trophy list is disappointing, so I'll just continue playing my PS2 copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leandrorhcp Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 $15 with 13 trophies only? Yeah right, I'll wait until it's $5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2V89 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 The trophy list is ok and even though it doesn't have a platinum, I'll still get it since I enjoyed it long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielc655 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Yeah, Yeah it's great no platinum still buy. I was brought up in a rough neighbourhood and due to the movie and this game it almost taught me how to fight IRL. I fucking love it 10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Never played it on PS2 so I'm keen to get it but I'll wait because $22.95 is a bit steep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellslikejavier Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Never played it on PS2 so I'm keen to get it but I'll wait because $22.95 is a bit steep. it cost $14.99 on the NA and EU Stores, in case you have an account from those regions. Edited July 6, 2016 by smellslikejavier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 it cost $14.99 on the NA and EU Stores, in case you have an account from those regions. Unfortunately I don't, good price though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellslikejavier Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 Unfortunately I don't, good price though. yeah, in fact all of this ps2 releases cost either $9.99 or $14.99 on the NA and EU Stores depending if it has a plat or not -at least most of the time-. odd that they cost that much on australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z1MZUM Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Might get it on my U.S account though $14.99 is a bit steep for a no platinum buy. It's not like I haven't played it 60000000 times already. Also, My other half finally watched this with me a few weeks ago, it's still super campy and the roller skating dudes are so weak But it' still a great film once you're used to the 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeldinX Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 it cost $14.99 on the NA and EU Stores, in case you have an account from those regions. Unfortunately I don't, good price though. 14.99 USD is 20.10 AUD though. Hardly much of a saving to be had? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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