yellowwindow7 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 currently I only got Primal, Dark Cloud will be next, then the rest, the only thing disappointing me is that there are no news about Fatal Frame 1, 2 and 3 to be released on ps4 with trophies support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlvenFenrir Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 fatal frame would be a nice surprise for halloween but doubt we'll see it for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapika96 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Really enjoyed Red Faction on PS2, so that would be great if it does come. Not a day 1 buy because those prices are just too high, but when there`s a sale... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowxSakura Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Probably my favorite FPS, nice to see it finally coming back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flop Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Awesome for Red Faction. Sad that no horror games have released this month though, specifically ones like the Fatal Frame games. I haven't gotten Siren yet though, so i guess I could snatch that as a Halloween-themed game. But I'm waiting till more PS2 games release, just a bit more, I don't want to get one, be done with it, and then wait weeks and weeks till another one comes out. But Red Faction is an awesome game from what I remember. Never finished the second game though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvick_ Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) Sweet, love Red Faction. Now give me Freedom Fighters.Just hope it won't be $20. Not supporting any of them at that price. Edited October 25, 2016 by Elvick_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finozzi1696 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 currently I only got Primal, Dark Cloud will be next, then the rest, the only thing disappointing me is that there are no news about Fatal Frame 1, 2 and 3 to be released on ps4 with trophies support. fatal frame would be a nice surprise for halloween but doubt we'll see it for that. Awesome for Red Faction. Sad that no horror games have released this month though, specifically ones like the Fatal Frame games. I haven't gotten Siren yet though, so i guess I could snatch that as a Halloween-themed game. But I'm waiting till more PS2 games release, just a bit more, I don't want to get one, be done with it, and then wait weeks and weeks till another one comes out. But Red Faction is an awesome game from what I remember. Never finished the second game though. Fatal Frame/Project Zero are definitely the ones I'm looking forward the most on this emulation! alongside Silent Hill, ObsCure, etc... The PS2-PS4 catalogue really needs more horror titles, as of now there are plenty of RPGs and action games but only 1 truly horror one (Siren), and well maybe you can count Manhunt as Survival Horror I guess. Wish there were more variety. I do know that games like Silent Hill 2 were highly requested to come to PS4 and still are! So hopefully Sony could make a deal with Tecmo (Fatal Frame) and Konami (Silent Hill) like they did with PS2 Classics last gen and so we can get some of them at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowxSakura Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 There needs to be more horror games in general, there weren't really that many last gen either compared to other genres 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finozzi1696 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) There needs to be more horror games in general, there weren't really that many last gen either compared to other genres Actually horror games saw a huge revival this gen , last gen everything was about action 'cause of the then new RE4 over-the-shoulder camera nearly at the start of the PS3/360 gen which prioritized action, and Call of Duty getting a huge amount of popularity with titles such as World at War and Modern Warfare. So action, shooters, explosions, etc became a big thing last gen, such was the popularity that even some horror games had to opted for a more action approach in order to keep being relevant, such as RE5, 6, Silent Hill Homecoming, etc... But now with the start of the new PS4/XB1 game things has changed, the action genre became a bit stale since it failed to provide much innovation besides better graphics, so people wanted to see new experiences and with the help of titles such as Outlast, P.T./Silent Hills, Until Dawn, FNAF, etc which all of them became an internet phenomenon the horror genre once again returned. Even Capcom was so pleased with their REmake and RE0 remasters' sales and seeing how their action-oriented REs were getting so much hate and RE6 actually not meeting the sales expectations Capcom originally envisioned it would have that's why they decided to go with what's popular now and returned to horror with Resident Evil 7. There are so many indie devs nowadays releasing low-budget horror games and Sony is greatly supporting horror games for their PS VR device (I mean, horror is pretty much one of the most interest genres for VR). So yeah, horror is back in my opinion, and hopefully we start to see more and more big budget ones if RE7 proves to be very successful. Edited October 23, 2016 by Finozzi1696 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowxSakura Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Actually horror games saw a huge revival this gen , last gen everything was about action 'cause of the then new RE4 over-the-shoulder camera nearly at the start of the PS3/360 gen which prioritized action, and Call of Duty getting a huge amount of popularity with titles such as World at War and Modern Warfare. So action, shooters, explosions, etc became a big thing last gen, such was the popularity that even some horror games had to opted for a more action approach in order to keep being relevant, such as RE5, 6, Silent Hill Homecoming, etc... But now with the start of the new PS4/XB1 game things has changed, the action genre became a bit stale since it failed to provide much innovation besides better graphics, so people wanted to see new experiences and with the help of titles such as Outlast, P.T./Silent Hills, Until Dawn, FNAF, etc which all of them became an internet phenomenon the horror genre once again returned. Even Capcom was so pleased with their REmake and RE0 remasters' sales and seeing how their action-oriented REs were getting so much hate and RE6 actually not meeting the sales expectations Capcom originally envisioned it would have that's why they decided to go with what's popular now and returned to horror with Resident Evil 7. There are so many indie devs nowadays releasing low-budget horror games and Sony is greatly supporting horror games for their PS VR device (I mean, horror is pretty much one of the most interest genres for VR). So yeah, horror is back in my opinion, and hopefully we start to see more and more big budget ones if RE7 proves to be very successful. That's not really many games you've named Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finozzi1696 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 That's not really many games you've named I just mentioned the ones that became a huge internet (YouTube, Twitch, etc...) phenomenon and had a lot of influence. Of course there are a lot more horror games released this gen, meanwhile there was barely any like that last gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvick_ Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) Not sure how realistic it is to continue to hope for Silent Hill* 2/3 the reason the remasters were bad is Konami lost the final build source code. edit; What's with me today, so many errors. Edited October 25, 2016 by Elvick_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finozzi1696 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Not sure how realistic it is to continue to hope for Silent Hill* 2/3 the reason the remasters were bad is Konami lost the final build source code. edit; What's with me today, so many errors. Yeah but those were remasters, since this PS2 emulations on PS4 don't require its source code to be touched and thus they just need to grab the original versions, up-scale them to HD 1080p and add new features like trophies/platinums and such that's why they would be so much better to have rather than playing the HD Collection, they are cheaper to make too so they earn more profits that way rather than investing on full remasters. Thing is, Sony hasn't re-released any PS2 game that already had a HD remaster on PS3 and/or have been added to PS Now, and considering Silent Hill 2 and 3 did and were added to PS Now just a few weeks ago now I wonder if there will be any chance for them to be properly emulated at some point on PS4. Personally since I already played them and as much as I would love to do it again with their original PS2 versions I'd like to see the other ones getting chances to be re-released too: 4: The Room, Origins and Shattered Memories. In my opinion Konami would have more sales with PS4 emulations and not putting them on streaming services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvick_ Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) Yeah but those were remasters, since this PS2 emulations on PS4 don't require its source code to be touched and thus they just need to grab the original versions, up-scale them to HD 1080p and add new features like trophies/platinums and such that's why they would be so much better to have rather than playing the HD Collection, they are cheaper to make too so they earn more profits that way rather than investing on full remasters. Thing is, Sony hasn't re-released any PS2 game that already had a HD remaster on PS3 and/or have been added to PS Now, and considering Silent Hill 2 and 3 did and were added to PS Now just a few weeks ago now I wonder if there will be any chance for them to be properly emulated at some point on PS4. Personally since I already played them and as much as I would love to do it again with their original PS2 versions I'd like to see the other ones getting chances to be re-released too: 4: The Room, Origins and Shattered Memories. In my opinion Konami would have more sales with PS4 emulations and not putting them on streaming services. Where are you getting that they don't need the source code at all in porting them to PS4 with trophies? And PS Now has plenty of PS3 games that are already on PS4. PS Now is not a PS4 feature, it's up to the publisher to decide what they want to do there. Edited October 25, 2016 by Elvick_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalChaos72 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Oh come on! Where is Yu-gi-oh duelist of the roses? Can you request PS2 games or is Sony throwing these games out randomly? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Oh come on! Where is Yu-gi-oh duelist of the roses? Can you request PS2 games or is Sony throwing these games out randomly? I've got that one on my wishlist on the other thread. But I think... Twitter is your best bet if I'm not mistaken. Hopefully we'll see news or even a trophy list for Red Faction soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudsInHead Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I'm delighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finozzi1696 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) Where are you getting that they don't need the source code at all in porting them to PS4 with trophies? And PS Now has plenty of PS3 games that are already on PS4. PS Now is not a PS4 feature, it's up to the publisher to decide what they want to do there. They don't, that's why its just a PS2 emulation the PS4 has an internal emulator inside as stated by some technical reviewers, which was apparently quietly added on some update. They use a different way to add trophies that is different from the way they add them to remasters and other games, which doesn't require to touch the code. That's why they look and run the same as the original PS2 versions, and also why even the same bugs and glitches are kept. Up-scaling them to 1080p and adding the other features that are present in other PS4 games such as remote play, share play, streaming, etc... are done without touching the source code. About PS Now, I was referring to PS2 games that got remastered on PS3, notice how nearly a year has passed and Sony is still avoiding to emulate any of their most recognoscible and popular PS2 franchises on PS4: Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, Sly, Shadow of the Colossus, ICO, God of War, etc... 'cause they've already been remastered on PS3, and perhaps they don't want people to complain about getting a "downgraded" PS2 version instead of getting the better remasters, and since those remasters have been added to PS Now that might be why we aren't getting the remastered ones on PS4 either, 'cause they must want to promote their streaming service. Oh come on! Where is Yu-gi-oh duelist of the roses? Can you request PS2 games or is Sony throwing these games out randomly? I think they need to make deals with those publishers first, and then it takes some months to add trophies to them, that's why we aren't having a massive amount of PS2 games every month and they aren't emulating games from all publishers. Apparently the team who handles this emulation isn't too big It seems they got a new publisher onboard, THQ Nordic, and that's why the last couple of leaks were about both Destroy All Humans and now Red Faction. When this emulation started some Sony employee called Dave Thach stated on Twitter that they should use the #ps2ps4 hashtag to request PS2 games on PS4, him and Shuhei Yoshida (the president of PlayStation) used to comment and give likes to many user comments when it started but now they don't do it anymore, although to this day many people still uses the hashtag every day. You can create an account there and use the hashtag to request some, and also use @davethach and @yosp so they can see it. I even posted on their own tweets so there are even more chances for them to see them Edited October 25, 2016 by Finozzi1696 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalChaos72 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 They don't, that's why its just a PS2 emulation the PS4 has an internal emulator inside as stated by some technical reviewers, which was apparently quietly added on some update. They use a different way to add trophies that is different from the way they add them to remasters and other games, which doesn't require to touch the code. That's why they look and run the same as the original PS2 versions, and also why even the same bugs and glitches are kept. Up-scaling them to 1080p and adding the other features that are present in other PS4 games such as remote play, share play, streaming, etc... are done without touching the source code. About PS Now, I was referring to PS2 games that got remastered on PS3, notice how nearly a year has passed and Sony is still avoiding to emulate any of their most recognoscible and popular PS2 franchises on PS4: Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, Sly, Shadow of the Colossus, ICO, God of War, etc... 'cause they've already been remastered on PS3, and perhaps they don't want people to complain about getting a "downgraded" PS2 version instead of getting the better remasters, and since those remasters have been added to PS Now that might be why we aren't getting the remastered ones on PS4 either, 'cause they must want to promote their streaming service. I think they need to make deals with those publishers first, and then it takes some months to add trophies to them, that's why we aren't having a massive amount of PS2 games every month and they aren't emulating games from all publishers. Apparently the team who handles this emulation isn't too big It seems they got a new publisher onboard, THQ Nordic, and that's why the last couple of leaks were about both Destroy All Humans and now Red Faction. When this emulation started some Sony employee called Dave Thach stated on Twitter that they should use the #ps2ps4 hashtag to request PS2 games on PS4, him and Shuhei Yoshida (the president of PlayStation) used to comment and give likes to many user comments when it started but now they don't do it anymore, although to this day many people still uses the hashtag every day. You can create an account there and use the hashtag to request some, and also use @davethach and @yosp so they can see it. I even posted on their own tweets so there are even more chances for them to see them Just tweeted them there now, hopefully i'll get some sort of response. A platinum trophy must come with DOTR or else this whole thing will be pointless lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finozzi1696 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) Just tweeted them there now, hopefully i'll get some sort of response. A platinum trophy must come with DOTR or else this whole thing will be pointless lol. Erm I wouldn't expect to see an answer if I were you like I said they used to reply and give likes only on December last year when they started with the hashtag idea, but they don't do that anymore. Maybe they are still reading them, hopefully! Edited October 26, 2016 by Finozzi1696 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalChaos72 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Erm I wouldn't expect to see an answer if I were you like I said they used to reply and give likes only on December last year when they started with the hashtag idea, but they don't do that anymore. Maybe they are still reading them, hopefully! Here's hoping but i wont be holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Just tweeted them there now, hopefully i'll get some sort of response. A platinum trophy must come with DOTR or else this whole thing will be pointless lol. I can see a platinum trophy with that game for sure, even if the list is on the small side. But I agree, don't hold your breath for an answer. But hey, doesn't mean they're not reading them though. They could be reading them, jotting down the games without a word, you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeldinX Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 Where are you getting that they don't need the source code at all in porting them to PS4 with trophies? They just need the original ISO / ROM / Disc image (that sort of thing) for the emulator to run. The trophies are then developed and triggered from the code that already exists. They don't touch the original code at all, unless they decide to patch it like they did with the GTA Trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark771 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 You know, I kinda wish Sony did the same with PSone games and PSP games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowxSakura Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 They just need the original ISO / ROM / Disc image (that sort of thing) for the emulator to run. The trophies are then developed and triggered from the code that already exists. They don't touch the original code at all, unless they decide to patch it like they did with the GTA Trilogy. Don't they also upscale the graphics? Pretty sure that would require the source code. Also if that were true, we would have had a port of panzer dragoon saga a long time ago(the computers the source code was on was burned up in a fire)Sega stated it's not possible without the source code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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