So... now even such games have platinum

[DaivRules]

???

The engineer that is in charge of adding trophies to PS2 games on PS4 (At least at the time) said that the rules for platinum's changed recently.

One of the developers of Cook, Serve, Delicious! said that adding a platinum to games isn't a issue anymore

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=16875

A developer behind the Vita port of Lumines, explaining why the game didn't have a platinum:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=174473424&postcount=142

One of the developers of Lab Zero (Skullgirls) saying that he didn't even need to ask to add a platinum for Skullgirls 2nd Encore

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=174482559&postcount=183

And Gaf is one of the few places where I actually trust when developers claim they're devs, since if you can't prove it to the mods, you'll get banned

 

None of those posts factually clarify anything about your point. They're completely vague anecdotes and NONE of them state "There's no restrictions for trophy lists anymore, so devs can just put Platinums on any game they want."

[TehCro]

Smart devs. $1 for 2 plats that take 30 minutes each? Why wouldn't I buy it?

[DesmaBR]

None of those posts factually clarify anything about your point. They're completely vague anecdotes and NONE of them state "There's no restrictions for trophy lists anymore, so devs can just put Platinums on any game they want."

What do you want, a Sony rep to write an article about how trophies work?

Seriously, if you want I'll ask them directly for more info

[euantp_]

This game isn't in my PSN store. Is it not out in the UK yet?

[andresauce7]

Cheap and super easy plat... what could be wrong with it?

 

I've gotten some really hard platinum trophies so if some devs want to give me an easy and cheap plat, I'll make sure to buy it in a heart beat

[DaivRules]

What do you want, a Sony rep to write an article about how trophies work?

Seriously, if you want I'll ask them directly for more info

 

How about get and post the actual Sony dev trophy guidelines? If you're the one person who manages to get that, you'll have managed to do what many people before you have failed. THEN we can have a discussion about the facts.

[awf9495]

You are the real disgrace for judging people over their trophies. Get over yourself.

 

Don't people want to be judged though?  Why else are the most popular topics about sharing your latest trophy accomplishments?  Why are half the status updates stuff like "Platinum #157 and #158 - My Name is Mayo"?  Why is there an entire subforum dedicated to people making their own platinum lists to show off? People put their accomplishments out there because they want to share, and not everyone is going to pat you on the back when you achieve that 100th platinum and your library is full of games like My Name Is Mayo and Barbie and Friends Pet Rescue.  Personally, I don't care what other people do or what is in their profiles, just saying that if you put yourself out there expecting cheers, you can't be afraid of a few jeers as well.

[DesmaBR]

How about get and post the actual Sony dev trophy guidelines? If you're the one person who manages to get that, you'll have managed to do what many people before you have failed. THEN we can have a discussion about the facts.

That's confidential, tho. Even if I somehow got my hands on it, it's not like I would be able to post them.

[BIOHAZARD-R-US]

I'm gonna be so mad if this plat does not have a 100% earn rate. I'M GONNA WRECK IT

[diskdocx]

Don't people want to be judged though?  Why else are the most popular topics about sharing your latest trophy accomplishments?  Why are half the status updates stuff like "Platinum #157 and #158 - My Name is Mayo"?  Why is there an entire subforum dedicated to people making their own platinum lists to show off? People put their accomplishments out there because they want to share, and not everyone is going to pat you on the back when you achieve that 100th platinum and your library is full of games like My Name Is Mayo and Barbie and Friends Pet Rescue.  Personally, I don't care what other people do or what is in their profiles, just saying that if you put yourself out there expecting cheers, you can't be afraid of a few jeers as well.

I don't think judged is the right word here. Social media was not created to be an outlet for shaming, but that is largely what it has become. Sites like this can be a fun place for people to come together, support each other, provide encouragement and help, or just to tear others down for how they choose to enjoy their hobby.

 

People are entitled to their opinions, but it does speak volumes of an individual's integrity and personal self esteem if they can only feel better about themselves by trying to put someone else down.

[DaivRules]

That's confidential, tho. Even if I somehow got my hands on it, it's not like I would be able to post them.

 

Use Wikileaks.

[vincenth69]

There's no restrictions for trophy lists anymore, so devs can just put Platinums on any game they want.

But, since there was a restriction, developers sometimes get scared of having the game rejected by Sony for having a platinum so they made a smaller one (I think there was one developer who did that).

Also, adding trophies can bring bugs too, which demands more QA. Some publishers might feel like it's not worth the effort and cost

 

- True, except for F2P games, you can have a platinum as long as your trophies are attached to a gameplay action ("hit a mayo jar X times" being one).

- You don't get rejected, you don't have to submit the game to have your trophy list accepted, but you have to give a definition of how you unlock each trophy.

- Yes and no. You have to implement a way to detect when the trophy is supposed to unlock and unless it is complicated or you are a bad programmer, you should not introduce new bugs to your game. QA though, has to make sure every trophy is unlocking at all time so yes, it costs more.

 

Basically, complaining to Sony for a lack of platinum in anything but a F2P is stupid and the complaint should be addressed to the dev.

Edited November 10, 2016 by vincenth69

[Nitro]

There's no restrictions for trophy lists anymore, so devs can just put Platinums on any game they want.

But, since there was a restriction, developers sometimes get scared of having the game rejected by Sony for having a platinum so they made a smaller one (I think there was one developer who did that).

Also, adding trophies can bring bugs too, which demands more QA. Some publishers might feel like it's not worth the effort and cost

 

This is completely false.

[Proteus-Ridley]

My thoughts?

This game is a classic and will fight for GotY against other such greats like DOOM and Uncharted 4.

Haha good luck DOOM and Uncharted

[kusuriuriPT]

I hope that this is mayo its a unique thing...i hope that cheap games for the sake of plats will not become a thing

[damage_6-9]

Saw this last night and thought what the hell, only have $1.67 in my US account..... 43 minutes 27 seconds for the plat.... I can live with that, lol

[diskdocx]

I hope that this is mayo its a unique thing...i hope that cheap games for the sake of plats will not become a thing

 

Why? What is wrong with cheap games?  Why would it matter if the game is easy/short and has a platinum?

 

You don't have to buy it. It doesn't have to 'cheapen' your trophy list.

 

Since the Vita is getting fewer releases, I for one would welcome having more games brought across from other platforms. Even if they are shorter mobile games, or Steam games.

 

Choice is never bad, and having inexpensive options is always nice.

 

I do not understand why anyone would NOT want this?

[kusuriuriPT]

Why? What is wrong with cheap games?  Why would it matter if the game is easy/short and has a platinum?

 

You don't have to buy it. It doesn't have to 'cheapen' your trophy list.

 

Since the Vita is getting fewer releases, I for one would welcome having more games brought across from other platforms. Even if they are shorter mobile games, or Steam games.

 

Choice is never bad, and having inexpensive options is always nice.

 

I do not understand why anyone would NOT want this?

Look at the mess that steam its right now becouse of "cheap" and "easy" games....i just hope that this will not open the flood gates for this kind of "games"

[Senbon Kaguya]

Got my platinum last night, didn't bother me. That mayo can express feelings, best story mode.

[Terra]

Look at the mess that steam its right now becouse of "cheap" and "easy" games....i just hope that this will not open the flood gates for this kind of "games"

As long as it's entertaining then it really shouldn't matter. "Cheap" and "easy" games can provide just as much as fun as major triple A releases. Buy them for whatever purpose you want them for but I welcome these. 

[RedRozeReaper]

Eh, I'm alright with it. When I saw a trailer of it, I laughed. Interested in playing not gonna lie.

[AARCT1C]

I think there is a problem with gamers as a whole that only play games for trophies.

You have both the PS4 and PS Vita platinums for My Name Is Mayo. But I'm sure you only played it for the breathtaking graphics...twice

Edited November 14, 2016 by MattyH16

[Gommes_]

As long as it's entertaining then it really shouldn't matter. "Cheap" and "easy" games can provide just as much as fun as major triple A releases. Buy them for whatever purpose you want them for but I welcome these. 

 

Definitely but this is another level.

I mean even games like megamind or hannah montana can be kind of "excused" if you share your account with your child or you have

a weird obsession with bad games. But this crap takes the cake. This defines everyone as trophy whore and not as someone who cares about achieving anything!

 

I actually can't stand that a game like this has a platinum. This is not even a game, this is nothing. So at first sight, someone with a trophy card that displays over 100 platinums

looks great. Then you look into it and see 5 times sound shapes, 2 times this crap, terminator salvation, 4 times the walking dead and so on! "Wow what a great player he or she is"

Games like this water down the actual achievement of platinums.

How I stated before, there is nothing wrong with easy games, especially if they're good like some people feel about telltale games.

Highly subjective but the existence of "games" like that is atrocious.

 

How can you not feel shitty "playing" this?

[kusuriuriPT]

I still think thar this game its extremely dangerous...this can make the psn store

.turn in to the mess that its steam right now

im not hating on the game..i just hope that Sony dont open the gates to anyone like steam did ans we don get flooded with 99cenr "games" selling just for the sake of the plat..becouse we all know that people will by them.

A trully dangerous possible outcome with the sucess of this "game".

[stitchesnscars]

Definitely but this is another level.

I mean even games like megamind or hannah montana can be kind of "excused" if you share your account with your child or you have

a weird obsession with bad games. But this crap takes the cake. This defines everyone as trophy whore and not as someone who cares about achieving anything!

 

Not everyone who plays games is doing it for a challenge or about "achieving something". Some folks are trophy whores about certain games if this is not the proper website for it then where?

 

 

I actually can't stand that a game like this has a platinum. This is not even a game, this is nothing. So at first sight, someone with a trophy card that displays over 100 platinums

looks great. Then you look into it and see 5 times sound shapes, 2 times this crap, terminator salvation, 4 times the walking dead and so on! "Wow what a great player he or she is"

Games like this water down the actual achievement of platinums.

 

Not all of us are using our trophy cards to show how skilled we are. A trophy card is just a library of games that someone has played and how much of those games they have completed. And yes although a megamind platinum and a Max Payne 3 platinum are worth the same 180 points people do know the skill difference between the two  so i'm not sure how a game like this water down a platinum when there is a percentage displayed right next to the trophy showing how rare it is.

 

Does it bother you that this bothers you so much?