So... now even such games have platinum

[Gommes_]

WTF guys? This is not how many of us think about people who play titles like this. This is why I made the comparison with movies.

 

I assume (my POV) one is more into movies or has better knowledge overall if he or she saw citicen kane, pulp fiction, apocalypse now, city of god, room, ex machina and so on e.g.

It's an enormous difference in quality if someone else only watches stuff like jack & jill, transformers, 50 shades of grey, birdemic and so on.

However It is totally fine to like movies like this but obviously one can't recognize certain qualities I need in a movie or values them from another perspective.

That's why the oscars are given out by a committee and not by a popular vote or number of visitors. (or me)

 

And it's also totally necessary to criticize the academy for their choices or why they call themselves experts. 

I also stated that the platinum count doesn't really matter. Hell even if someone has no platinum that's absolutely fine. My name is mayo has to face criticism cause it's

not a game and only exists to hand out platinums for free. (Basically) 

 

I mean everybody knows one guy who has a terrible taste in music, movies or whatsoever. So when it comes to opinions on that, you know that you should assess his or her thinking differently according to YOUR subjectice opinion. There is no right or wrong. If you want to play a good game or see a good movie you ask friends who share the same taste. People from the outside probably think different.

 

But people who play my name is mayo have to deal with being criticized, cause this is a public forum. Just like every other game can and should be criticized. It seems to be

a sensitive topic here, cause people call you out. So all you do is attack other players and mock them for their point of view. Seriously guys what's up with that? 

 

If you state that britney spears, neyo and justin bieber are the best singers ever in a crowd full of beatles, led zeppelin and metallica fans you have to explain yourself. And that goes the other way around. 

And the value of a platinum is also different to every player. So why is it bad to complain that my name is mayo even has a platinum trophy in the first place? 

 

I am not expecting people to share my thoughts but it is valid questioning other players choices for getting my name is mayo. And this opens up dozens of other topics regarding

value of a platinum, easy games, hard games, good games, bad games, trophy hunting and so on...

Edited November 22, 2016 by Gommes_

[FawltyPowers]

I don't see any problem with any game having a platinum and I really don't care if someone has 200 platinum's that are extremely easy, if they enjoyed those game then each to their own.

Unfortunately after reading the previous pages it seems people are buying this game just for trophies and not really caring what the game is. I've never understood why people play appalling games just for trophies and ignore far better ones they'd actually prefer playing because the trophy lists aren't ideal.

Conversely those same people might look at my profile and say "Why would you spend 100's of hours playing one game just to get a platinum?" and it's a valid point.

I still say I wish there was a stat that took the rarest trophy earned from each game and divided the rarity from each by the number of games you own giving you an "Average of each games Rarest Trophy". If you complete easy games or just earn the easy trophies of the game the stat will be higher, play and complete rarer games lowers that statistic.

This stat gives a quick overview of how challenging some peoples games lists are as our lists become bigger.

[Rafi_004]

I don't see any problem with any game having a platinum and I really don't care if someone has 200 platinum's that are extremely easy, if they enjoyed those game then each to their own.

Unfortunately after reading the previous pages it seems people are buying this game just for trophies and not really caring what the game is. I've never understood why people play appalling games just for trophies and ignore far better ones they'd actually prefer playing because the trophy lists aren't ideal.

Conversely those same people might look at my profile and say "Why would you spend 100's of hours playing one game just to get a platinum?" and it's a valid point.

I still say I wish there was a stat that took the rarest trophy earned from each game and divided the rarity from each by the number of games you own giving you an "Average of each games Rarest Trophy". If you complete easy games or just earn the easy trophies of the game the stat will be higher, play and complete rarer games lowers that statistic.

This stat gives a quick overview of how challenging some peoples games lists are as our lists become bigger.

 

That would be a nice stat

[Galactic Hyper Balls]

1 dollar for two platinums lol.

 

Pure brilliance, I bought it for a quick plat

Looks Like I can start star ocean 5 sooner for #100

 

Thanks to my name is MAYO

 

just tap X and the touch pad for a plat  

[Elvick_]

This thread was a journey. Not sure why people can't just let things roll off their backs more. If someone thinks this game is garbage and devalues platinums, or whatever, who cares? They are entitled to think that just as you are entitled to think otherwise. Seems pointless to me. Doubt people are going to change any minds.

Personally, I wouldn't play this game. I like my trophy list to be at least games that interest me on some level, and after looking at a video of this "game" in contemplation of whether I'd want the easy plat or not... I couldn't get there. Even a game like Last Rebellion, it was a game I was actually interested in. And despite being terrible, I did enjoy the insanely flawed, awful Last Rebellion. And I'm not ashamed that I got that easy platinum, because I bought that hot mess day 1. No shame here.  I'm sure most who have the plat only got it for the fact it's an easy plat, and if people wish to think that same thing passing on by my profile then I couldn't care less. I know what my profile represents, and that's all that matters to me. If people want to read something else into it, that's just how they view things.
 

It's really not a big deal at all if someone has a negative view toward plats like this one. Or any easy ones. Live and let live. But Sony/developers please have some consistency, my Yevon. Tired of the randomness of plats!

Edited November 25, 2016 by Elvick_

[Pavani_]

Just got my 2 plats, ROAST ME!

[VerCettI]

I feel like I just took part in a psychology experiment. This game is someone's senior thesis. Would people really press a button 20,000 times for 2 platinums for a dollar? Yes. Yes we would.

[starcrunch061]

I still say I wish there was a stat that took the rarest trophy earned from each game and divided the rarity from each by the number of games you own giving you an "Average of each games Rarest Trophy". If you complete easy games or just earn the easy trophies of the game the stat will be higher, play and complete rarer games lowers that statistic.

 

Shameless plug!

Even a game like Last Rebellion, it was a game I was actually interested in. And despite being terrible, I did enjoy the insanely flawed, awful Last Rebellion. 

 

That is FAR more embarrassing than playing My Name is Mayo! 

[Elvick_]

That is FAR more embarrassing than playing My Name is Mayo! 

To you perhaps, I couldn't care less what other people think.

[GlennRhee]

No it was never my intention to present "facts". Maybe I should've spread some statements that made more clear that this is just my side. 

Still, for me only playing these kind of games does not identify someone as a gamer.

 

In my language we have the word "cineast" coming from the word cinema. This describes a person which knows everything about movies cause he or she watches all sorts of stuff. From the biggest blockbuster to the smallest indie movies. (The definition is actually longer) The word does not apply to people who only watch a certain type of movies. Let's say only romantic comedies.  

This can be compared to how I see gaming.

 

What I am trying to say is, that if your gaming life only consists of bad games in order to get trophies and skipping hard or long ones it doesn't make you a gamer. 

The whole platinum-hunt thing is even on another level and my name is mayo is just too much for me 

 

I realize I'm, like, two weeks late to this conversation and I don't want you to think I'm arguing in any way (I'm not!). I'm just super curious about this point.

 

I do agree that, just like how there are classic movies, there are classic games that are viewed as having defined the art form in one way or another. Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy VII, and even The Last of Us are usually put into this category. But unlike movies, games have two components: story and gameplay, and while one might appeal to you, the other might be an absolute nightmare.

 

Like, personally, I can concede that The Last of Us is probably a cinematic masterpiece, but I absolutely hate stealth-based gameplay, so I had next to no fun playing it (and since I didn't earn a trophy, I just deleted it from my profile). And because of my dislike for stealth, I've never played Dishonored or MGS, both of which I've heard very good things about, story-wise. Conversely, even though the "Love Live" plats are super easy, I'm a big fan of the series, so I'm really happy to have those games on my profile, even though they might look bad to some people.

 

I guess what I'm asking is, would you consider someone who omits an entire genre from their list "not a gamer", or would you define them differently ("casual" gamer vs "hardcore" gamer)? If someone only watches romantic comedies, they aren't a cineast, but if someone only plays survival horrors, are they not a gamer?

 

I think you just mean that people who only pad their lists with games like this aren't real gamers, but it's more the comparison to the cineasts that I'm curious about.

 

EDIT: Also, in all seriousness, I really wish there were more games like Taco Master. I bought it before I knew it even had a plat, just because I really enjoy time management games. :'(

Edited December 1, 2016 by GlennRhee

[Gommes_]

I do agree that, just like how there are classic movies, there are classic games that are viewed as having defined the art form in one way or another. Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy VII, and even The Last of Us are usually put into this category. But unlike movies, games have two components: story and gameplay, and while one might appeal to you, the other might be an absolute nightmare.

 

Like, personally, I can concede that The Last of Us is probably a cinematic masterpiece, but I absolutely hate stealth-based gameplay, so I had next to no fun playing it (and since I didn't earn a trophy, I just deleted it from my profile). And because of my dislike for stealth, I've never played Dishonored or MGS, both of which I've heard very good things about, story-wise. Conversely, even though the "Love Live" plats are super easy, I'm a big fan of the series, so I'm really happy to have those games on my profile, even though they might look bad to some people.

 

I guess what I'm asking is, would you consider someone who omits an entire genre from their list "not a gamer", or would you define them differently ("casual" gamer vs "hardcore" gamer)? If someone only watches romantic comedies, they aren't a cineast, but if someone only plays survival horrors, are they not a gamer?

 

I think you just mean that people who only pad their lists with games like this aren't real gamers, but it's more the comparison to the cineasts that I'm curious about.

 

You have a good point. The comparison can't be made 1:1 but let's just say that as a cineast or a gamer you have to acknowledge certain themes or mechanics even though you 

personally don't like them. As you mentioned e.g. TLOU being a cinematic masterpiece.

 

I don't assume that every cineast absolutely adores Casablanca. Or in your case The Last of Us. The difference is that you tried it out and that a cineast probably

watched Casablanca anyways. Maybe it's the difference on how you handle this experience and classify it between all other movies or games while being constructive.

 

Personally I don't like the terms casual and hardcore gamer. While for me it's easier to say what casual might be, I have a huge problem "defining" a hardcore gamer. In one game related

show a guy stated that people who are just playing games like LoL or WoW for years, while ignoring everything else aren't gamers. Nevertheless I bet these people would declare themselves as hardcore players. So that's an interesting perspective. From both sides

 

As you said before, games have more aspects to it, gameplay and story. It is easier to consume a movie, cause in some cases you can even have fun with stupid or unlogical stories. Theres is actually a whole industry for that (Hello Sharknado ) 

In a game, this is harder to ignore, so personally I have a problem with the term gamer if one plays horrible games just for trophies. I mean we are talking about categories here

and how different people define these categories. So where do you put one who plays Hannah Montanah and awful games alike but at the same times ignores everything "good" for the sake of trophies?

 

When games get reviewed it usually goes to people who love that certain genre. A die hard shooter fan who works with games all day will probably not review the latest fifa and the other way around. But since, it's their profession and hobby, they at least know both genres and value certain improvements. 

 

Everybody has preferences and certain aspects he or she doesn't like but that does not define a gamer for me. Maybe it's the passion for the medium, the huge variety and the interest in all sorts of games.

If you don't "see" that, it is hard to call one a gamer. At least for me. Maybe there lies the comparison with cineasts. 

Edited December 2, 2016 by Gommes_

[GlennRhee]

Everybody has preferences and certain aspects he or she doesn't like but that does not define a gamer for me. Maybe it's the passion for the medium, the huge variety and the interest in all sorts of games.

 

I feel like this is the best definition of a gamer I've seen. Passion definitely goes a long way, and I feel like slogging through bad games just for trophies is one of the major drawbacks of the system (and something I'm guilty of, unfortunately). I like trophies as a whole, because in a lot of instances, I kind of view it as being a symbol of love for a game. Like, Deadly Premonition is my favorite game of all time (minus Shadow Hearts, but that's a title that'll never see a sequel), so I made sure it was my first plat.

 

I'd never let trophies get in the way of buying a game I genuinely wanted, though, because beating the Meat Circus in Psychonauts or accomplishing some of the more headache-inducing character trophies in Overwatch is really satisfying.

 

That said, I'm definitely guilty of buying My Name Is Mayo, but I also shamefully enjoy clicking simulators (like AdVenture Capitalist), so at least it wasn't only for the trophies. 

 

But yeah, passion for the medium irrespective of one's personal taste is a really good way  to define a gamer, imo!

[FlareZero]

To you perhaps, I couldn't care less what other people think.

Last rebellion was in my opinion an ok game, nothing special, but, ok.

[marvelboy10]

 I never would of thought the easiest platinum in the world would be tapping a jar of Mayo 10,000 times in different outfits.Its also the worlds cheapest platinum being as you can get 2 plats for $1. So that means 1 plat costs $0.50 cents.

[Elekidcore]

On 11/8/2016 at 5:09 PM, Valyrious said:

Anybody that has Hannah Montana on their list, is a disgrace to themselves.

I have no shame and did that on the 360 for the lulz.

 

Speaking of lulz, I was actually planning, at one point in life, on buying a PAL 360 from Europe just so I could add silly games such as My Horse & Me 2 to my list. The thought of having a game who's title can be easily and wildly mistaken for the title of a beastiality porn movie makes me laugh... a lot. ?